Suns reportedly seeking to trade Dragic for 1st rounder

[Crystallas]

And these Kirk hypothetical trades.

He isn't waiving his clause. Kirk isn't getting traded. Like him or hate him, he's stuck here and that includes adding players that fill his position. Something about holding your breath until turning blue.

 

[knoxville7]

you post was Dragic is nowhere near as good defensively as Kirk is

i said change that to was

you can take that as me saying hes close

:derbulls:

agree to disagree...we both know we have very differing views on kirks value to the team

 

[knoxville7]

And these Kirk hypothetical trades.

He isn't waiving his clause. Kirk isn't getting traded. Like him or hate him, he's stuck here and that includes adding players that fill his position. Something about holding your breath until turning blue.

nobody was suggesting kirk be involved in any trade

 

[clonetrooper264]

Why are we talking about Hinrich? This thread is about Dragic...

 

[knoxville7]

Why are we talking about Hinrich? This thread is about Dragic...

as usual things get taken off topic somewhat....it got to kirk because someone mentioned dragic take kirks role on the team

 

[Axl Rose]

agree to disagree...we both know we have very differing views on kirks value to the team

im only messing around (note the troll similes) i don't even know how good Dragic is or isn't on defense tbh

Kirk in a 15 minute role would be good...his shortcomings wouldn't be as glaring

but i have to admit it'll be a great day when he retires....we'll finally be done with the Hinrich era

 

[clonetrooper264]

as usual things get taken off topic somewhat....it got to kirk because someone mentioned dragic take kirks role on the team

aw dangit it's mah fault

 

[knoxville7]

aw dangit it's mah fault

hahaha no its not your fault....im sure somehow its kirks fault for that too lol

 

[clonetrooper264]

hahaha no its not your fault....im sure somehow its kirks fault for that too lol

It's Thibs's fault for playing him too many minutes.

Oh it's going down now :elephant:

 

[knoxville7]

It's Thibs's fault for playing him too many minutes.

Oh it's going down now :elephant:

hahaha ill roll with thibs and kirk anyday

 

[Axl Rose]

It's Thibs's fault for playing him too many minutes.

Oh it's going down now :elephant:

Fred Hoiberg would play Doug McDermott

 

[FirstTimer]

My question is...

Why have the Suns been trying to trade Dragic for two years, when he's been their best player?

Two schools of thought:

1. Know he's a system guy. Over valued on the market. Trying to trick a team.

2. They know he's going to command more money than they want to give him. Want to get something before he leaves for free

 

[Crystallas]

Two schools of thought:

1. Know he's a system guy. Over valued on the market. Trying to trick a team.

2. They know he's going to command more money than they want to give him. Want to get something before he leaves for free

And these are fair arguments. Also reasons why we should not be interested IMO. Just a reminder to some(not you), a reason doesn't always mean a deal-breaker.

He's been on the block for a long time, not just on the Suns. Something is fishy here. Dragic has some issue that no one has accounted for, locker room creep, head case, wants to pull a Rudy Fernandez and leave the NBA ASAP, hiding a permanent injury, etc. I don't know what it is, but I think there is more to it.

 

[Axl Rose]

well the injury would be found in the trade physical

locker room cancer? ehhhh you would think you would hear something about that this day and age

i think its they don't think he'll resign or he'll cost to much (and thats why we wont trade for him)

 

[knoxville7]

goran dragic has 2 years left on his contract so worrying about him re signing isn't important as of right now

 

[Axl Rose]

goran dragic has 2 years left on his contract so worrying about him re signing isn't important as of right now

he can opt-out and will most likely do so

 

[czman]

Dragic is playing 33+ minutes a game for them. I know there are rumors, but there are also "reporters" who will do anything for hits. I am not sure he is actually on the move.

He has value so I am sure his name comes up in talks and he is not untradeable type of player. He may get dealt, but I doubt it is a for gone conclusion that he is on the move.

 

[knoxville7]

he can opt-out and will most likely do so

good to know....then yes he will do that, his market value is higher than his 7.5 mil salary currently. but the fact he can opt out and get a big contract is a big reason why nobody will give up much to make a trade for him(especially the bulls who have to resign butler in the offseason already)

 

[The Hawk]

If this is true, the Bulls better jump on it. I'd do it even if it took picks plus Taj Gibson.

I don't know. I'd try like hell to sell them on the picks and Dunleavy. Gibson is a warrior.

 

[vinson555]

Wouldn't Dragic start and Dun go to the bench?