Teams that have a worse QB Situation

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Can you do basic math?

#1 pick: 16/49 (32.6%)

Top 10 Pick: 22/49 (45%)

1st Rounder: 27/49 (55%)
Obviously better than you can do reading comprehension
 
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You do understand that those QB's picked #1 overall won a SB because they were good enough to warrant the #1 overall pick right? If the Bears end up with the #1 pick drafting a mid first rnd talent QB, first overall does not impart any added chance at success.

Who did this grading?
 

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I've said numerous times now that I've seen that sentiment expressed in many places and from many different people, not just from B&B callers.

And it doesn't get any less fucktarded. All those people and not one of them are anyone in the Bears organization, let alone the ones making the decision.
 

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People refer back to that 5 game winning streak under Martz as Cutler's best streak with the Bears. In actuality, what happened at that time, was we were horrible the game before that, I think it was against Buffalo

I think it was the game before Buffalo as they were coming off a bye week that sunday(I remember cause I went to that game).

The Buffalo game was the game in the 2010 season after the bye where Martz dialed down the 7-step drops, ran the ball more and played more conservative, balanced football. They looked better after that, with the exception of the two GB games (season finale and NFCC).

The 5 game win streak in 2011 came after they started playing better, after another Packers loss in week 3, the beat Carolina in week 4. Then week 5 was that Monday night game in Detroit where the OL was getting annihilated but Cutler played pretty well.

So really he had 6 straight games where he played well, because after that Lions game was the blowout win over the Vikings at home which started the 5-game winning streak. That was followed by the London game against the Bucs where Forte had that cool TD run where the Bucs defenders ran into each other on his juke. Then they beat the Eagles with Vick, then that great home win over the Lions where the defense got a bunch of turnovers and Briggs jacked up Megatron. Then the Chargers game where they won but Cutler got injured.
 

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A QB has been taken #1 overall 21 times.

Six of those QB's have gone on to win a combined 14 Super Bowls.

They have appeared in a total of 20 Super Bowls.

Seems like they do well. I don't know.
 

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A QB has been taken #1 overall 21 times.

Six of those QB's have gone on to win a combined 14 Super Bowls.

They have appeared in a total of 20 Super Bowls.

Seems like they do well. I don't know.

Only 6 of 21 have been successful? That would be a 71% fail rate.
 

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Only 6 of 21 have been successful? That would be a 71% fail rate.

By that logic:

1) The failure rate would be much higher for any and all QB's not taken #1 overall.

2) Why draft anybody ever? In fact, why field a team? You only have a 1 in 32 chance at winning the Super Bowl in a given year. Might as well give up. Most draft picks period don't work out long-term, so might as well never draft anyone----too high a failure rate.
 

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By that logic:

1) The failure rate would be much higher for any and all QB's not taken #1 overall.

2) Why draft anybody ever? In fact, why field a team? You only have a 1 in 32 chance at winning the Super Bowl in a given year. Might as well give up. Most draft picks period don't work out long-term, so might as well never draft anyone----too high a failure rate.

Derp. Where did I say do not draft a QB #1?
 

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Derp. Where did I say do not draft a QB #1?

Another poster mentioned QBs drafted number one overall have a pretty damn good track record of success. Your response was to point out the failure rate. Were you not expressing disagreement with the thought that QBs going number one overall have a disproportionate penchant for success, or were you just talking to talk? Derp derp.
 

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A QB has been taken #1 overall 21 times.

Six of those QB's have gone on to win a combined 14 Super Bowls.

They have appeared in a total of 20 Super Bowls.

Seems like they do well. I don't know.

Since I like to piggy back off your comments... I'll give you a chart... I just went back to 1960 given many of those QBs played during the Super Bowl era.
Of this list you have 4 QBs who are currently in the HOF, another one is guaranteed in Peyton Manning.

None have gone to Super Bowls since Eli Manning. Stafford and Newton do have multiple playoff appearances.

Of the busts:
Jack Concannon (which is probably because he ended up on the Bears)
Vinny Testeverde (though does have two pro bowls)
Jeff George
Tim Couch
David Carr
JaMarcus Russell

You could even throw Sam Bradford and Alex Smith in there thus far.
 

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By that logic:

1) The failure rate would be much higher for any and all QB's not taken #1 overall.

2) Why draft anybody ever? In fact, why field a team? You only have a 1 in 32 chance at winning the Super Bowl in a given year. Might as well give up. Most draft picks period don't work out long-term, so might as well never draft anyone----too high a failure rate.

Any idea what the % of #1 overall defensive picks failure rate is? Or any other offensive position other than QB?
 

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Any idea what the % of #1 overall defensive picks failure rate is? Or any other offensive position other than QB?

The last player non-QB #1 overall that played in a SB was Orlando Pace.
 

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Another poster mentioned QBs drafted number one overall have a pretty damn good track record of success. Your response was to point out the failure rate. Were you not expressing disagreement with the thought that QBs going number one overall have a disproportionate penchant for success, or were you just talking to talk? Derp derp.

Don't expect him to follow a logical train of thought
 

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Another poster mentioned QBs drafted number one overall have a pretty damn good track record of success. Your response was to point out the failure rate. Were you not expressing disagreement with the thought that QBs going number one overall have a disproportionate penchant for success, or were you just talking to talk? Derp derp.

No, I was pointing out it isn't the lock you and others think it is. Try to keep up jack ass.
 

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No, I was pointing out it isn't the lock you and others think it is. Try to keep up jack ass.

I think we all realize that high picks in the draft are not a guarantee. Thanks for pointing that out bro, what would we do without such insight.
 

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I think we all realize that high picks in the draft are not a guarantee. Thanks for pointing that out bro, what would we do without such insight.

Probably be afraid of it not happening because some callers on B&B said so.
 

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