TGDT: 4/17 WCQF Game 3 - Canucks (2) @ (0) Blackhawks 7:00PM CSN

[R K]

hahahahahaaha!!!

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Kurwa! I am Europe Foreign, not soft! In Poland I play center.



Skate fast, fight strong! Strong like mule. Ees good, no?



Ees birthday? Buy you shot? We drink, yes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq0ZPNWYrxM

 

[whiteevo]

i dont know why everyone is heated......the series is going exactly how i was hoping it would. the only way we could possibly hurt the fucks emotions more would be to come back down 3 games.



....exxxxccceellent.

 

[R K]

If this fiasco doesn't give them enough emotion to win a game, then they really need to end it.



The NHL and Colin Campbell are a fucking joke. They don't know what the **** they are doing.

 

[genefoley]

hawks in 7

 

[Variable]

I thought that any kind of blind side hit to the head, whether it's with an elbow or shoulder, was a major penalty and additional discipline from the league. How did they get around that? I understand the refs being absolute morons on the ice, but how does the league look at it afterward and still do nothing? They keep saying player safety, player safety and yet here is the kind of hit THEY want out of the game and they won't do anything?

 

[Pez68]

I know this will get ripped, but I think Sharp is the guy that can/may be moved to get that second line center. His value is as high as its ever been after putting up the numbers he has. Even with his 70pts, this team finished where the did. He's going to be able to get 5-6mil on the market and they will struggle to be able to afford him. Getting a true center to play behind Toews may make this team overall better. Toews will have less pressure, you may be able to get consistant scoring out of Hossa. Down the road/into next year if Bolland shows to be healthy, then they can move him for more wing depth and plug Kruger into the 3rd line center role.



Centers are hard to come by in the league and Sharp may be the chip they have to give up to acquire one.

1) Sharp's cap hit is $3.9M per season.

2) Sharp is a leader on this team.

3) Trading a guy that can play second line center AND wing, for a second line center, that likely makes more than him, accomplishes what, exactly?

4) How much do you think second line centers make? Take a look around the NHL. We're going to struggle to pay a second line center, just as much as we would struggle to pay Sharp... Find me a second line center that is an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp, for less than 5 mil per season. Do they even exist?

5) Trading Sharp for a second line center is, at best, a lateral move. So we get a second line center, except now, we're missing a top six winger and a 30 goal scorer.



Trading Sharp is assinine, unless you can get a stud center that is still on his ELC or an RFA contract. Who is going to do that?



Trading Sharp makes NO sense, especially if we are hoping to challenge for the cup next season. Top six wingers are easier to find than centers, too.

 

[bri]

Kurwa! I am Europe Foreign, not soft! In Poland I play center.



Skate fast, fight strong! Strong like mule. Ees good, no?



Ees birthday? Buy you shot? We drink, yes?

Do you know Peggy?



Oh, and I'm a big fan of your sausage.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

1) Sharp's cap hit is $3.9M per season.

2) Sharp is a leader on this team.

3) Trading a guy that can play second line center AND wing, for a second line center, that likely makes more than him, accomplishes what, exactly?

4) How much do you think second line centers make? Take a look around the NHL. We're going to struggle to pay a second line center, just as much as we would struggle to pay Sharp... Find me a second line center that is an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp, for less than 5 mil per season. Do they even exist?

5) Trading Sharp for a second line center is, at best, a lateral move. So we get a second line center, except now, we're missing a top six winger and a 30 goal scorer.



Trading Sharp is assinine, unless you can get a stud center that is still on his ELC or an RFA contract. Who is going to do that?



Trading Sharp makes NO sense, especially if we are hoping to challenge for the cup next season. Top six wingers are easier to find than centers, too.

Very well put. The last guy that should be traded is Shrap. You can see what hell we went through when he went down.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

If only we WOULD have traded PATTYCAKES for TURRIS... way to GO!

 

[Pez68]

If you want an upgrade for your second line center, you have to move someone like Kane, who is young and is under contract for four more years. That's the only way you're getting back a center that would actually be an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp, and the only way you can really afford it. Then you have to find a way to replace Kane... Yeah, ok.



Like it or not, the top five forwards we have on this team this season, are likely going to be the top five forwards we have for the next couple seasons.



Toews

Kane

Hossa

Sharp

Bolland



What this team needs more than ANYTHING, is a big LW that can play in the top six. Preferably with Toews and Kane. If we can package Hammer for that guy, I think that's the easiest way to improve this team. Imagine if the Hawks picked up a guy like Lucic to play with Toews and Kane...



Lucic/Toews/Kane

Sharp/Bolland/Hossa



I'd take that top six over pretty much any other top six in the NHL. A PF LW is exactly what this team needs. ****, I'd settle for Ladd!

 

[R K]

Disagree completely.



You could move a Leddy or Hjarlmarsson type player and get the same return.



This team needs a Center. Right now. With Bolland out. That's what they need. With Bolland in they have no depth at Center, unless you again put a player there that does not want to play there.



I don't advocate moving Sharp either but with on year on his contract, depending on what numbers he puts up next year, you might have too. Who knows what type of raise he's going to want.



As for the moving Kane type player to get a #2 Center. Not a chance, and that is complete over kill.

 

[R K]

1) Sharp's cap hit is $3.9M per season.

2) Sharp is a leader on this team.

3) Trading a guy that can play second line center AND wing, for a second line center, that likely makes more than him, accomplishes what, exactly?

4) How much do you think second line centers make? Take a look around the NHL. We're going to struggle to pay a second line center, just as much as we would struggle to pay Sharp... Find me a second line center that is an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp, for less than 5 mil per season. Do they even exist?

5) Trading Sharp for a second line center is, at best, a lateral move. So we get a second line center, except now, we're missing a top six winger and a 30 goal scorer.



Trading Sharp is assinine, unless you can get a stud center that is still on his ELC or an RFA contract. Who is going to do that?



Trading Sharp makes NO sense, especially if we are hoping to challenge for the cup next season. Top six wingers are easier to find than centers, too.

I thought you two were ignoring each other. Guess not.

 

[Pez68]

Disagree completely.



You could move a Leddy or Hjarlmarsson type player and get the same return.



This team needs a Center. Right now. With Bolland out. That's what they need. With Bolland in they have no depth at Center, unless you again put a player there that does not want to play there.



I don't advocate moving Sharp either but with on year on his contract, depending on what numbers he puts up next year, you might have too. Who knows what type of raise he's going to want.



As for the moving Kane type player to get a #2 Center. Not a chance, and that is complete over kill.

You want an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp as your #2 center, you're going to have to offer more than Leddy or Hjalmarsson... Who in their right mind is going to give up a top six center for a #4 defenseman? You realize that a #2 center is likely a 50-60 point guy right? If he's not, why are we even trying to acquire one? Bolland, if playing most of the season, is likely a 40-50 point guy...

 

[Rex]

it's a shame that our "most promising" prospects are still at least a year away.

 

[PatrickShart]

Could Sharp get Staal from PITT (who already has Crosby, Malkin)...and have been looking for winger help? He's signed for 2 more years at 4mil hit.



Or Steven Weiss from FLA? 3.1mil cap hit for 2 more years.



I think those two guys exist, make less than 5 mil, and arent figments of my imagination.



Sam Gagner as well, may be had for a guy like Hjarlmarsson - EDM is in need of a top 4 Dman.



This team has had zero center depth for the last few years. Its why people whine and ***** when Kopecky, Frolik or Sharp have to play out of position. Or why Toews is dead because the other centers in the lineup right now are Kruger, Dowell, and Johnson.



It's why Q has to sometimes play Hossa with Toews...then Kane at times. Since Toews is the teams first and second line center.



Trading Sharp wouldnt be a lateral move. This team is dead in the water with Bolland out. God forbid Toews ever goes out for a stretch.



The fact his contract isn't going to be the 3.9mil you pointed out when it's up at the years end, and that he's due for a raise - he may be the best chip they have to get a center.



They have wingers - Hossa, Kane, Frolik, Morin (possibly) - that can play top 6 in the future. But they do not have any natural centers behind Toews to take any pressure off of him.

 

[supraman]

You want an upgrade over Bolland or Sharp as your #2 center, you're going to have to offer more than Leddy or Hjalmarsson... Who in their right mind is going to give up a top six center for a #4 defenseman? You realize that a #2 center is likely a 50-60 point guy right? If he's not, why are we even trying to acquire one? Bolland, if playing most of the season, is likely a 40-50 point guy...

Bolly fits best as the 3rd line center. He's the defensive guy, the shut down guy with a scoring touch. Hjalmarsson would play top minutes on a team with a shit D core and he might just be able to hack it as a top pair guy. So yeah i can see Hammer for a 2nd line center.

 

[Pez68]

With the Crosby and Malkin injuries, I highly doubt Pittsburgh moves Staal. I think he'd be a good fit, and would probably be worth Sharp, but I see no reason for them to trade him. He's 22 and will likely just get better.



Frolik as a top six winger huh? I think that's wishful thinking at this point. To say the least. He's shown nothing in his time here that tells me he is a top six winger on a contender. We have no idea if Morin will be able to jump right into the top six, or if he's just going to be a very good third liner. It will take a season to figure that out. He's also coming off of a concussion like Bolland... Right now, we have Sharp, Kane, and Hossa as top six wingers. You trade Sharp for a second line center, and you're down another LW. I think finding a big LW to play with Toews and Kane improves this team more than moving Sharp for a 2nd line center. Assuming Kruger can actually be a third line center and Bolland is healthy.

 

[PatrickShart]

I guess I'd rather have a 1/2 center than 1 center and 3 wingers. Someone is left without a centerman to play with, and its been Hossa the whole time he's been here.



I think a center/wing combo on the first 2 lines would balance the team better than just the one scoring line like they've had this entire season.

 

[Pez68]

I think if you can't move a defenseman to get a top six centerman back, Sharp is that guy for next season. Let's not forget, he was our second line center pretty much all of 2009-2010. Obviously that season worked out OK.