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we could say that about anyone....but i get what your sayin
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we could say that about anyone....but i get what your sayin
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If I may, I'd like to chime in. Right Now, I think Stalberg isn't the best player obviously but he can become an OK defender. Any scoring presence he can create would be a bonus IMO.
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Hmm what makes him not good...?
No shred of creativity
Throws weak ass shots on net
Piss poor defensively
Stone hands
No hockey awareness
Hockey IQ of 0
No shred of creativity
Throws weak ass shots on net
Piss poor defensively
Stone hands
No hockey awareness
Hockey IQ of 0
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I don't know. I didn't see him do much. Maybe I'm an idiot and you can go ahead and think that, but I have my opinion on him. He could be a good player, but he could also end up being worthless. I have no problem with his contract because it's so small, but he's just not a player I see helping the Hawks for years to come.
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it is in here, and it is in the staff forum. CO.
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I'd personally like to see him used as trade bait in case we realize that Sharp or Kruger aren't going to cut it at 2C in the middle of the season.
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are you insane? you just thanked tbos post about arguing if he is good, and you are back to this. wow.
Well i guess you want stats, but you wont again allow me to use stats
anyway......again. speed should never be confused with skating abilty, his hands are horrible, he has no skill on shots, let alone good shot selection, often left in no mans land or in bad positions that lead to him getting off a bad shot.
Will stalberg always suck? dont know
Does stalberg have potential? yes
does stalberg suck currently? yes
^^^^^^^^^^^^ very simple.
and since I have been giving example of how he sucks, even the stats that dont matter according to you like goals and assists. Now its your turn, Why does he not suck? or are you going to back peddle or forget what you are talking about and thank the same tbo post from above.
Im going to play a game of COD, when I comeback try to have something more than "oh he plays good in the defensive end" "oh he had a lot of hit" ( while being on a soft team.
just in case you missed it icehog. carry on.
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The fact that Stalberg brings on so much discussion is mind-boggling to me. So many better things to talk about with this team.
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The thing is, the Hawks have so many prospects that are younger and could be better that we don't even need Stalberg. Ben Smith is a great prospect. McNeill is already fighting to get to the NHL (He won't get there, but the fighting for it is worth something). The Hayes brothers are good. I think after this contract is done with Stalberg, he should just be let go. By then there will be so many good prospects ready for the NHL that we won't even need him.
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yeah that tony campana really fucking sucks. sure hes fast but hes only fast going straight. hes not fast side to side. he cant do anything else either. hes soft. he doesnt hit, he has no power. tony campana sucks...
oops wrong forum.
oops wrong forum.
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which could very well happen...
im very curious with the hawks because we have alot of guys locked into 4+ year deals, yet so much talent ready to come into the NHL...are they gonna play in chicago, or will some be packaged in trades...but thats another topic all together
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Perhaps we should escape this thread and create a thread talking about prospects. That might go better. Maybe?
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are you insane? you just thanked tbos post about arguing if he is good, and you are back to this. wow.
Well i guess you want stats, but you wont again allow me to use stats
anyway......again. speed should never be confused with skating abilty, his hands are horrible, he has no skill on shots, let alone good shot selection, often left in no mans land or in bad positions that lead to him getting off a bad shot.
Will stalberg always suck? dont know
Does stalberg have potential? yes
does stalberg suck currently? yes
^^^^^^^^^^^^ very simple.
and since I have been giving example of how he sucks, even the stats that dont matter according to you like goals and assists. Now its your turn, Why does he not suck? or are you going to back peddle or forget what you are talking about and thank the same tbo post from above.
Im going to play a game of COD, when I comeback try to have something more than "oh he plays good in the defensive end" "oh he had a lot of hit" ( while being on a soft team.
Being reliable defensively does make you a good player, Hossa, Toews, Bolland and Sharp are all defensively reliable. If you can play defense and help the team to a win you get playing time. When he got to Chicago he was terrible in our zone. As the season ended he got very good in that end.
Many thought Jack Skille had the same problem in Rockford with the speed and bad skating ability. Those skating abilities were bad because of his speed, he relied on his speed so much he was always falling down, rushing up the ice so fast, he didn't have a line mate there with him, which led to bad shots. This is what Stalberg has done as well. I agree he could work on his skating and foot work a bit, but that comes with practice. Brouwer was the same way with his foot work, am I allowed to use these or are they excuses?
Hands? are you talking hand eye coordination, or passing abilities? because he's show the ability to have both with net presence (when he wants to use it)
Also with the bad shots, he was a 4th liner, usually alongside the players Johnson, Dowell, Scott, and Pisani. You could even throw Hendry in there for his couple of games. Now out of those guys who would you want to take the shot? Shooting isn't part of their games when that is how Toronto developed Stalberg to Skate in and shoot it.
Bad Shot? Wayne Gretzky said 1 less shot on goal could be one less goal or something along those lines. What do you consider a bad shot?
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He is reliable defensively
He has shown offensive threat when in the role
He did become a physical player, he was also overlooked at his poke checking
He became a solid forechecker with his speed. Now he needs to learn to use his size
You say I will use his defensive and physical play as an example, Why wouldn't or shouldn't I? Isn't hockey a 2 way game?
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Ben Smith has already done more for this team than Softberg.
Scored big goals in the playoffs where Softberg was nowhere to be found as usual.
Scored big goals in the playoffs where Softberg was nowhere to be found as usual.
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go for it
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And he has hockey smarts. And he is a hard worker. I don't know if Stalberg is, but I know that Smith is.
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last thing im gonna say on this....
IF stalberg makes the team in camp, there is a reason he did and others didnt
I trust Q over all you other armchair coaches.....he sees something in Stalberg
IF stalberg makes the team in camp, there is a reason he did and others didnt
I trust Q over all you other armchair coaches.....he sees something in Stalberg
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Yep. Only time will tell if he does well or not. If he's in the top 6 then yes, points do need to be produced by him. In the bottom 6 he should be focused on more on defense.
Before I get bashed for saying points do matter, let me point out, I say points dont matter when you are a 4th liner.
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Everything you mentioned in every game this past season happened, but it happened every once in a while, as your arguement looks good due to the detailed nature of the descriptions, it also has to be looked at beyond face value. Just because there have been times that he has shown those positives, does NOT=him doing it on a consistent basis.
Hossa,Toews, Sharp should not be used as examples as they do this on a much more consistent basis. Those guys are masters of their craft, especially Hossa and Toews on the 2 way play. I am the biggest fan of 2 way players, I think 2 way players that are good at what they do are hard to come by, it is a Red Wings trademark of the past decade and proves to be a success, but to state that he is good at it is a bit over the top IMHO.
When he played top 6 mins, he was awful.
You complain because he was on the 4th line, the same people who complain about this, are the same ones that state "oh LULZ bowman knows more than you, ZOMFG" So I will use that and state that I believe Q knows more than you and all of us, which equals,stalberg being on the 4th line because that is what he is, a 4th liner. I didnt put him on the 4th line coach Q did, he thinks he is a 4th liner. so "lulz" I will take Q's opinion over yours.
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