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there are a million comparisons you can do with athletes with small sample sizes that both careers go the opposite direction. I mean, just because their numbers were similar at the same age has ZERO to do with the player we are talking about.

I can just hear some of the meatballs now. "oh but he was just like sharp when he started out so he should turn out to be just like him"

nobody here has said that
 

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Well, Patrick Sharp also played on a shitty team and Stalberg played on the defending cup team. So, it's not exactly the same, but I see your point.

He started with a very good Philly team, players like Roenick, Recchi, Leclair, and Gagne.

Stalberg's .5 of a season was with Toronto, can we disregard that?
 

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This by far is one of the dumbest sports debates.

Right now, stalberg sucks.

He will have to do more than " be good in the defensive zone " before I give him props.

If you want him on the bottom six, fine.....But dont fucking sit there and say that goals and assts dont matter when you are courting him to be on the top 6.
 

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can you agree that right now, Stalberg sucks?

He, doesn't. You aren't providing anything to the stats, all we are seeing is posts from Dewey "Stalberg Sucks, Stalberg Sucks. I say Stalberg sucks, so he sucks."
 

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This by far is one of the dumbest sports debates.

Right now, stalberg sucks.

He will have to do more than " be good in the defensive zone " before I give him props.

If you want him on the bottom six, fine.....But dont fucking sit there and say that goals and assts dont matter when you are courting him to be on the top 6.

just because people disagree with you doesnt make it a dumb debate...


you think he sucks, others think he has potential..


we have NEVER said Stalberg will be a stamkos type player, but I think he could definitely put up some frolik type numbers.

you are arguing like we said he will be the next gretzky...

Im just saying he will be a serviceable NHL forward


and again, he is only making $875,000.....
 

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He started with a very good Philly team, players like Roenick, Recchi, Leclair, and Gagne.

Stalberg's .5 of a season was with Toronto, can we disregard that?

Okay. Well, either way that stat doesn't say much. All it says is that Sharp was a late bloomer, we don't have any stats on Stalberg for the future so we will never know if he is a late bloomer or if he just isn't that good.
 

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Well, Patrick Sharp also played on a shitty team and Stalberg played on the defending cup team. So, it's not exactly the same, but I see your point.

Patrick Sharp also flourished pretty much right away when he got here as well. He scored 15 points in 66 games with Philly and then scored 23 points in 50 games with the Hawks. As I recall Hitchcock was the coach of the Flyers at the time and had an offensive system that really didn't fit Patrick Sharp. I want to say I read Sharp saying something along those lines after the trade was made.

I really wasn't trying to make a point about Stalberg's chances of turning into a top 6 forward. I was more struck by how similar the numbers were when I looked it up for my own curiousity.
 

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just because people disagree with you doesnt make it a dumb debate...


you think he sucks, others think he has potential..


we have NEVER said Stalberg will be a stamkos type player, but I think he could definitely put up some frolik type numbers.

you are arguing like we said he will be the next gretzky...

Im just saying he will be a serviceable NHL forward


and again, he is only making $875,000.....

With only 1.5 of season games under his belt
 

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Patrick Sharp also flourished pretty much right away when he got here as well. He scored 15 points in 66 games with Philly and then scored 23 points in 50 games with the Hawks. As I recall Hitchcock was the coach of the Flyers at the time and had an offensive system that really didn't fit Patrick Sharp. I want to say reading Sharp saying something along those lines after the trade was made.

I really wasn't trying to make a point about Stalberg's chances of turning into a top 6 forward. I was more struck by how similar the numbers were when I looked it up for my own curiousity.

Sharp was also the 4th line center on that team. Once he got here to Chicago he was at least a top 9 and points increased, maybe due to linemates? Hmmmm :thinking:
 

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He, doesn't. You aren't providing anything to the stats, all we are seeing is posts from Dewey "Stalberg Sucks, Stalberg Sucks. I say Stalberg sucks, so he sucks."

I gave you the stats, but you said "goals and assts dont matter" :rolleyes:
 

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Okay. Well, either way that stat doesn't say much. All it says is that Sharp was a late bloomer, we don't have any stats on Stalberg for the future so we will never know if he is a late bloomer or if he just isn't that good.

So did Sharp suck because he was a late bloomer? You can't defend 1 player because he is a star and not the other.
 

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waiting.................................................... :rolleyes:
 

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Patrick Sharp also flourished pretty much right away when he got here as well. He scored 15 points in 66 games with Philly and then scored 23 points in 50 games with the Hawks. As I recall Hitchcock was the coach of the Flyers at the time and had an offensive system that really didn't fit Patrick Sharp. I want to say I read Sharp saying something along those lines after the trade was made.

I really wasn't trying to make a point about Stalberg's chances of turning into a top 6 forward. I was more struck by how similar the numbers were when I looked it up for my own curiousity.

Yeah that's a good point. And maybe that also proves that this might not be the place for Stalberg. Just like Philly wasn't the place for Sharp.
 

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waiting.................................................... :rolleyes:

I'm still waiting for you on why I am making excuses for the College, and rink?

Also when I say its his 2nd full season, but you say 117 games, which really turn out to be less games than I say he's actually played.
 

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but he wasn't in the top 6 for those, so they dont :p

ok. you are right, he doesnt suck. I guess the numbers lie, I guess my eyes lie as well when I watch him try to stick handle, and shoot the puck. Keep thinking he is doesnt suck.

I will make sure to bump this thread at the end of the season.
 
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