The Carnivore Diet

[Enasic]

So you're doing what you had said you couldn't do?

Ha…yeah I guess so. It’s a lot easier than I thought it would be.

 

[FozzyBear]

Mang, IDK how Ill make it past day 3. i may have to tap out like that mens health darren. Day 2 was a struggle.. A fatty caramelized half+ pound cheese hamburger patty crisped up wif bacon fat, served over hamburger hash... aka just some caramelized mince. topped with 4 eggs and a thick slice of bacon. total of 500grams of 80/20 beef,,,

Something doesnt seem right... it almost seems obscene eating this.. it was satisfying. i like a good burger... just as much as a good caramelized steak.. may have to do this more going forward. as much as i enjoyed feasting on a whole roast chicken.. i missed out on the crispy skin by storing and reheating..

burger plate calories worked out to 1940 for me one meal of the day.. i feel gorged.. for more calories and fat, 75/25 may be better but i think this was enough fat as is..

 

[ijustposthere]

Carnivore is more of an elimination diet to find out your food intolerances.

 

[ijustposthere]

Is it a manly diet? If so, let @Spartan know

I don't trust some skinny fat dude to know what's actually manly

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Carnivore is more of an elimination diet to find out your food intolerances.

Of course, there is no truth in this. It's ridiculous. An elimination diet would cut out 1 type food at a time. Carnivore diet simply includes meats and food that comes from animals. If the food is coming from something that can't walk, swim or fly, it can't be part of the carnivore diet.

 

[ijustposthere]

Of course, there is no truth in this. It's ridiculous. An elimination diet would cut out 1 type food at a time. Carnivore diet simply includes meats and food that comes from animals. If the food is coming from something that can't walk, swim or fly, it can't be part of the carnivore diet.

Um, yeah, there isn't much to a carnivore diet, hence why it's an extreme elimination diet used in severe cases. As for the long term, it's better than being vegan in terms of nutrient deficiencies, but likely isn't optimal. I don't expect you to understand, and I know you're googling as you read this to find something you think proves your point yet simply confirms your ignorance.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Um, yeah, there isn't much to a carnivore diet, hence why it's an extreme elimination diet used in severe cases. As for the long term, it's better than being vegan in terms of nutrient deficiencies, but likely isn't optimal. I don't expect you to understand, and I know you're googling as you read this to find something you think proves your point yet simply confirms your ignorance.

LMAO, and still ridiculous. Has zero to do with eliminating and finding out what foods you're intolerant to. It's about that very basic food group you stick to, just eating meat/animal products. It's thought of more as resorting to how early man ate and stepping away from heavily processed foods that make up the overwhelming majority of today's standard diet. Most also do it as a way to reduce inflammation throughout the body.

Many carnivores do fine without any supplementation. As with keto or any low carb diet, you may want to take in extra electrolytes so you don't miss the carbs too much. High carb diets cause a lot of water retention and that excess water also holds more electrolytes. Can also ease into it and reduce carbs gradually. Where FozzyBear said he did a carb load, right before doing carnivore, is something you definitely don't want to do. Our bodies not only don't need any carb intake but can convert excess protein to glucose which is why keto also limits protein. The carnivore diet requires no counting of macros nor calories though. You eat til satiated. Still a good idea to take in more fatty meats, make it about 40% protein and 60% fat. Not important to be exact, would only require a guesstimate.

 

[FozzyBear]

LMAO, and still ridiculous. Has zero to do with eliminating and finding out what foods you're intolerant to. It's about that very basic food group you stick to, just eating meat/animal products. It's thought of more as resorting to how early man ate and stepping away from heavily processed foods that make up the overwhelming majority of today's standard diet. Most also do it as a way to reduce inflammation throughout the body.

Many carnivores do fine without any supplementation. As with keto or any low carb diet, you may want to take in extra electrolytes so you don't miss the carbs too much. High carb diets cause a lot of water retention and that excess water also holds more electrolytes. Can also ease into it and reduce carbs gradually. Where FozzyBear said he did a carb load, right before doing carnivore, is something you definitely don't want to do. Our bodies not only don't need any carb intake but can convert excess protein to glucose which is why keto also limits protein. The carnivore diet requires no counting of macros nor calories though. You eat til satiated. Still a good idea to take in more fatty meats, make it about 40% protein and 60% fat. Not important to be exact, would only require a guesstimate.

Was my carb load the wrong thing to do? IDK. Wasnt a focused carb load to meet before transitioning to this diet. It was more about letting meself eat all those bs shit carbs one last time... to get it out of me system perse.. a mental strategy as opposed to a physical related agenda. I thought I retained 5 pounds of water but when looking at a prior weigh in, it was closer to 8.

I could sell this diet to the uninformed masses, cause ive lost 10 pounds in 3 days people, 10 pounds. lets not speak on the 8 pounds of water i put on the night before starting, lets pretend it was fat... pissed more than normal on day 2 but on day three ive been pissing like a fool all fucking day.. took a much needed 4 hour nap and woke up and weighed in to see how much of that water weight i shed... i thought maybe 4 pounds with all the pissing.. ive pissed out the 8 pounds and am working on the stores from my normal carb routine previously,. i normally dont weigh myself alot.. so i doubt i weigh daily... but i should for a while just to see how much water i had been storing and whattll get flushed quickly..

I got a 4 hour nap in today. slept 6:20 last night and woke feeling like I had the best 6:20 sleep ive had in a long time even though i still felt tired. physically, i felt more rested.. I only got 4 hours the night before.. and minimal sleep days and weeks before. cant remember the last time i napped. hopefully ill be able to sleep tonight.

So in 3 days.. ive notice better quality sleep on day 2... lost 10 pounds of water.. idk how much more water will easily go.

I wonder how the carnivore diet will perform once I start running again.. after 10 weeks of running im trying to give me legs an entire week off so no data thus far..my legs were feeling dead week 10.. part of the reason i was looking at me diet.. looking fer better recovery. Ive worked out in ketosis plenty in the past and adjusted to it,, but never maintained 0 carbs for a long period.. i had read up on some ultra runners who are fat based. some stay fat based the entire time while i read some would carb load before an event. im not an ultra runner and im not looking to compete, but it got me interested into looking at going back to keto and the reason the reason carnivore came into the conversation in the first place. f keto for now, trying dis shit

from my understanding, one can eat more protein than previously thought and stay in ketosis. theres been some misinformation on gluconeogenesis and both systems can run at the same time. i dont have a protien or fat target at the moment, its only day 3. i do know that my roast chicken waiting on me tonight doesnt have as much fat as the beefy oil field from yesterday.. so ill add 1-2 eggs and bacon

i dont think im in ketosis yet.. in the past i would get a slight metallic taste in me mouth. i do taste an ever so slight metallic taste, but i also have nap breath.. so idk.,. i guess 3 days may be possible after a carb load.. idk.. was expecting a week.. ive been fat adaptive before so maybe me body is switching back quicker... or maybe nap breath..

not loggin data in this thread daily, but will post some updates.. such as when the meat shits happen..

 

[ijustposthere]

LMAO, and still ridiculous. Has zero to do with eliminating and finding out what foods you're intolerant to. It's about that very basic food group you stick to, just eating meat/animal products. It's thought of more as resorting to how early man ate and stepping away from heavily processed foods that make up the overwhelming majority of today's standard diet. Most also do it as a way to reduce inflammation throughout the body.

Yeah, you should probably look into why Shawn Baker created it if you think it has nothing to do with being an elimination diet. As usual, you don't know shit about shit.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Yeah, you should probably look into why Shawn Baker created it if you think it has nothing to do with being an elimination diet. As usual, you don't know shit about shit.

It’s as if you can’t even remember your own posts or even ascertain how stupid they were. And, OMG, Shawn Baker did not create the fuckin’ carnivore diet. LMAO.It’s been around forever. He first tried Keto and became a strong advocate of it. Then he was curious to see if the carnivore diet was even better than that and became an even stronger advocate of it. Your idiocy is shocking.

 

[FozzyBear]

needed to update since today is a big milestone.. day 4... idk how, but i made it past 3 days mens health. sounds like a hit piece..

anywho.. todays meal was gonna be greasy ass beef patties and beef hash but realized i grabbed a 95/5 mince on me way home from work.. been trying to save me few steaks that are still in the freezer for weekends or something but had to pull out 2 porterhouses.. just smaller off cuts.. i generally buy larger cuts of steak and cut me own those were end pieces..

served da steaks over a bed of 250g dirty beef rice (aka bullshit lean mince.. caramelized 50% of it). was topped with 2 eggs and bacon.. seared the steaks in bacon fat to rare.. after they rested I sliced and sautéed them in butter to mr-med.. wasnt happy with the low fat content of the beef mince so i wanted to add mo fat.. may go back and make a lil more bacon and a couple of eggs.. dont feel like it was enough calories and fat

def gonna bulk up on the fatty mince next shop.. that patty plate was greasy obscene but good. as good as the steak was.. that 80/20 plate hit the spot.. maybe alternate between whole chicken and fatty beef days.

still no meat shits to report..

 

[FozzyBear]

****, still no meat shits. I heard they are all the rage.... something like hydraulic oil exploding out.. i got to experience the keto shits in the past.. def would recommend for the absurdity of it. maybe ill bypass da meat shits due to having been fasting regularly for roughly the last 6 months.. idk its still only 5 days at this point.

woke up to 2 more pounds of water dropped. passed up steak for a fatty ass bacon burger.. used that other 250g lean ground to sop up the greasy remains of the 80/20 n bacon fat.. eggs bacon and some cheddar.. damn that shit was good.

energy level is good... slept 4 hours last night and felt okay... i didnt want to get up bbut i had to run an errand....then took the greatest 20 minute power nap a couple of hours later, went into deep rem about 20 mins in, weird ass dream woke me up and i woke like i had chugged a barrel of caffeine minus the jitters.. calm and razor focus.. highly alert..

probably wont be truly fat adapted for another 3 weeks or so though if thats really a thing.. regardless def in ketosis..

 

[Warrior Spirit]

****, still no meat shits. I heard they are all the rage.... something like hydraulic oil exploding out.. i got to experience the keto shits in the past.. def would recommend for the absurdity of it. maybe ill bypass da meat shits due to having been fasting regularly for roughly the last 6 months.. idk its still only 5 days at this point.

woke up to 2 more pounds of water dropped. passed up steak for a fatty ass bacon burger.. used that other 250g lean ground to sop up the greasy remains of the 80/20 n bacon fat.. eggs bacon and some cheddar.. damn that shit was good.

energy level is good... slept 4 hours last night and felt okay... i didnt want to get up bbut i had to run an errand....then took the greatest 20 minute power nap a couple of hours later, went into deep rem about 20 mins in, weird ass dream woke me up and i woke like i had chugged a barrel of caffeine minus the jitters.. calm and razor focus.. highly alert..

probably wont be truly fat adapted for another 3 weeks or so though if thats really a thing.. regardless def in ketosis..

What is it with the expected meats shit? LMAO.

I used to have those weird ass dreams too when dozing off for just 10-20 minutes. I'd like to know what that's about.

 

[number51]

The Carnivore Diet is a meshfree method, which makes it ideally suited to simulate problems dominated by complex boundary dynamics, like free surface flows, or large boundary displacement.

 

[ijustposthere]

It’s as if you can’t even remember your own posts or even ascertain how stupid they were. And, OMG, Shawn Baker did not create the fuckin’ carnivore diet. LMAO.It’s been around forever. He first tried Keto and became a strong advocate of it. Then he was curious to see if the carnivore diet was even better than that and became an even stronger advocate of it. Your idiocy is shocking.

It's insane how incredibly confident you are in your stupidity. Literally Dunning Krueger in action.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

It's insane how incredibly confident you are in your stupidity. Literally Dunning Krueger in action.

Your Special person level comprehension fails you yet again. I am only confident in your stupidity.

 

[FozzyBear]

What is it with the expected meats shit? LMAO.

I used to have those weird ass dreams too when dozing off for just 10-20 minutes. I'd like to know what that's about.

@ 3:25

Was looking for that explosive flush... a cleanser M8. A brown watery detox. I dont know if its a detox but if everything is going.. flush me shit.. dont trust farts when starting keto n omad ppl.. dunno about this carnivore diet though.. no watery meat shits to report

I think that since Ive been fasting for months I might bypass it all together.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

@ 3:25

Was looking for that explosive flush... a cleanser M8. A brown watery detox. I dont know if its a detox but if everything is going.. flush me shit.. dont trust farts when starting keto n omad ppl.. dunno about this carnivore diet though.. no watery meat shits to report

I think that since Ive been fasting for months I might bypass it all together.

Think it has to do mostly with a metabolic shift but if you've done keto for a decent amount of time wouldn't expect much of a metabolic shift to come.

 

[FozzyBear]

Oh im also at day 6.. back to fatty beef burger... came off a roast chicken yesterday... its a good alternation.. while both have good protein/fat levels. the chicken is higher in protein vs its fat and the fatty beef is higher in fat vs its protien....so they create a meat macro equilibrium..

I solved the soggy reheated skin. I re-rendered it in bacon/talo also creating some schmaltz in the process.. poured that godly trio over me bird. then had crispy chicken skin chips left. i think i could make hard shell taco shells out of chicken skin.. hmm..

finally came off me week of leg rest and ran a mile when i got home to ease meself back in to phase 2 of training for life .. normally run before work but ran after today.. felt a lil ghrelin kicking in around me normal feed time but chose to run.. i wasnt hungry after that short session. ended up eatin at hour 27 instead of 24.. could have easily pushed the fast to 36-48 with the hunger gone... maybe even further.. but i ate me calories.

legs were def refreshed.. i could notice the difference between using fats vs carbs.. body will need to adjust... i remember it took a couple of weeks on keto last time... had great energy though. n with fresh legs i could have put in some work.. i could just tell i was missing a gear.. being that it wasnt hiiit, no worries m8s.. that gear wasnt needed.

so after 15.2 pounds of water dropped in 5 days....i woke this morning to nada different. i think thats all she wrote for the quick water flush.. unless me body is being stubborn fighting to hold a lil more, but I think im normalized now in terms of excess water weight

 

[FozzyBear]

Think it has to do mostly with a metabolic shift but if you've done keto for a decent amount of time wouldn't expect much of a metabolic shift to come.

havent done keto for a long time though..