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Evolution of a comedian



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Hooray! I am a feminist and so should you!



It was more of an example of why other female comedians aren't successful. Even in this clip Bamford is making a social commentary. Not merely on women's comedy, but also how it's perceived by an audience.



The respect level isn't there for a variety of reasons. Women didn't even work out of the home for a long time, let alone go to comedy clubs or stand on those stages and write jokes. If you listen to interviews with female comics, like Sarah Silverman of Janeane Garofalo, they often talk about how just regular old shitty misogyny prevented them from getting ahead. A lot of male comedians did not want them on stage, did not think they were funny and were very dismissive of them, as well as club owners who didn't want to give them a chance or risk not making money off of them. The comics who persevered had to go through all the hard part of comedy, tours, shitty clubs, agents, crappy pay, but also a lot of other shit too that make comedians got to skip over.



I think a lot of female comedians turn to improv or sketch, like UCB or Second City, because they could work with other people, play characters in scenes and there was a pre-existing structure and a pre-existing audience. Starting in the 70's with Catherine O'Hara, Gilda Radner and then moving to women who started at UCB or SC and now do television and not straight stand up, Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, Kristen Wiig. Or people who I consider comedians, but don't do straight stand up, like Amy Sedaris for example. She does her own thing, worked with Colbert doing sketch and then had develop her own way of presenting comedy.



I would consider Joan Rivers a legend. Woman is like Don Rickles. Old school, still tours, still has to work, sells out venues. She inspired young female comedians and had to go through the ringer to make it where she is today. And Phyllis Diller is a legend. She's 94 and was doing interviews even last year. ***** is on it.



Couldn't agree more about Joan Rivers (see the ep from the last season of Louie she was in... she was OUTSTANDING). You have to respect someone who Johnny "motherfucking" Carson (a true comedian's comedian) trusted enough to take over his show whenever he needed time off.



I have such a crush on Maria Bamford. Which is why it's sometimes really hard to watch those Target Christmas commercials.



There are some great ladies starting to really make names out there... Whitney Cummings' stand-up is hilarious - too bad I don't find her NBC show all that great (although I have a weird love of "2 Broke Girls" - which she co-created). Lynn Koplitz and Natasha Leggero are others I really like as well.



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The thing that bothers me about female comedians which may not make sense here is that a lot of them fall into the same form of female comedy instead of doing comedy. To me there are multiple forms of comedy, all funny, but very different and sterotypical. And it's very easy for women to fall into the simple comedy of just saying shocking stuff that is funny because it's a woman saying it and we have preconceived notions of how a woman is supposed to talk and act. It's just stereotype busting comedy. Still funny, but doesn't make them a great comedian.



Chelsea Handler drives me nuts with this now as she's given up on comedy and made a living out of talking about big black dicks. Where as Lisa Lampanelli does a similar style but in a much smarter way.
 

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Chelsea Handler drives me nuts with this now as she's given up on comedy and made a living out of talking about big black dicks. Where as Lisa Lampanelli does a similar style but in a much smarter way.



I'd argue that point. Lampanelli's schtick has gotten old for me, and Handler's is getting closer to that every day...
 

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I'd argue that point. Lampanelli's schtick has gotten old for me, and Handler's is getting closer to that every day...
Her schtick that you see on TV yes. But not what she's touring with, on TV she does the charecter that they all expect. But keep in mind, she was one of the first to really go out oon the limb and do that type of comedy. It just didn't get the recognition becaue she didn't have the body to back it up. Handler comes along and basically does Lampanelli's act, and how shit, who's this hot chick with the dirty mouth saying things that are racist and wrong but she can get away with it cause she's cute.
 

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Shit is getting **** heavy in here, and as the solel female poster I need to up my lady game. Maria Bamford's impression of the stereotypical female comedian is pure gold. Ammirite ladies?



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I've mentioned Maria before, and she's one of my favorites.
 

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Andy Woodhull and Tommy Johnigan you can all suck it.



i know both dick. Johnigan has been on leytterman a couple times. He's not polished. Yet but he's decent. Some of his material is cliche but he will be a name in the future also.



Don't test me dick i love stand up.
 

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She's pretty much right about what she is saying though.
 

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i know both dick. Johnigan has been on leytterman a couple times. He's not polished. Yet but he's decent. Some of his material is cliche but he will be a name in the future also.



Don't test me dick i love stand up.
I'm not testing you. I know Tommy, and Andy is one of my good friends. I went to high school with him and he was my roommate for years. He's finally leaving Chicago. He'll be staying on Tommy's couch for awhile probably. But hopefully he'll get there. Tommy has a shot of the being the next known comedian for reasons beyond this thread but he's got really good really smart comedy. Him and Andy met at SLU and started comedy together. Tommy just made it a full time thing before Andy so he got a head start. And also Andy is too nice of a guy for the business sometimes. If you want to wave dicks around about comedy, I'm your huckleberry.If you ever see Andy live, or his live at gotham appearance, there is a good chance at some point in his act he's making fun of me.
 

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I'm not testing you. I know Tommy, and Andy is one of my good friends. I went to high school with him and he was my roommate for years. He's finally leaving Chicago. He'll be staying on Tommy's couch for awhile probably. But hopefully he'll get there. Tommy has a shot of the being the next known comedian for reasons beyond this thread but he's got really good really smart comedy. Him and Andy met at SLU and started comedy together. Tommy just made it a full time thing before Andy so he got a head start. And also Andy is too nice of a guy for the business sometimes. If you want to wave dicks around about comedy, I'm your huckleberry.If you ever see Andy live, or his live at gotham appearance, there is a good chance at some point in his act he's making fun of me.



There a good chance at some point everyone is making fun of you.
 

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