The Cubs Hot Stove Action Thread

beckdawg · Jan 8, 2014

SilenceS said:
Lol even a tanaka offseason wouldn't makes this a good off season. You are probably looking at one of the worst lineups in cubs history

The offseason wouldn't be a failure because there's little they could have done to change that this offseason alone. The failure is the fact that their ability to acquire players for the future over the past 5 years has been poor. For example, hypothetically lets say they had signed someone like Morse and Tanaka. This would still be a horrible offense. Perhaps it would be slightly better but it's still no where near approaching good.

I'm being realistic here. If they can pull 2 players who can be future contributors on a playoff team I'd consider that to be a big success. Tanaka might be one. If one of the minor league FA types they have signed ends up being a bench player or perhaps more that is a successful offseason.

daddies3angels · Jan 9, 2014

Tanaka in US and will start meeting teams today. Was suppose to go to Chicago today but weather didnt let him.

HurricaneDij39 · Jan 9, 2014

chibears55 said:
ubaldo jimenez would be plan B for me if the cubs dont get Tanaka..

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No way am I giving up a draft pick for Jimenez. Jason Hammel or the Korean guy would be next in line for me...

brett05 · Jan 9, 2014

HurricaneDij39 said:
No way am I giving up a draft pick for Jimenez. Jason Hammel or the Korean guy would be next in line for me...

I have to agree, the Cubs pick what like 4th or 5th? Too costly. Or is that pick protected?

Boobaby1 · Jan 9, 2014

brett05 said:
I have to agree, the Cubs pick what like 4th or 5th? Too costly. Or is that pick protected?

Jimenez does absolutely nothing for the Cubs moving forward. Let somebody else have him.

daddies3angels · Jan 9, 2014

brett05 said:
I have to agree, the Cubs pick what like 4th or 5th? Too costly. Or is that pick protected?

1st RD pick be protected but they lose 2nd RD plus the draft slot money. I dont see Cubs giving up on draft pick OR slot money. Its either Tanaka or going after Baker or some other 1 yr deal SP

chibears55 · Jan 9, 2014

daddies3angels said:
1st RD pick be protected but they lose 2nd RD plus the draft slot money. I dont see Cubs giving up on draft pick OR slot money. Its either Tanaka or going after Baker or some other 1 yr deal SP

forgot about giving up the draft pick and slot money..
but he would be a decent pick up at age 30 on a 3 yr 30-36 mil deal, he had some good numbers in Colorado...after a rough first 2 yrs in Cleveland, he bounced back pretty good last year..

HurricaneDij39 · Jan 9, 2014

I'd be willing to sign Hammel for two years. He entered last season as the Orioles ace but things just didn't work out according to plan, and frankly he can't catch a break when it comes to operating in a pitcher-friendly environment.

Jimenez is just awful. Even if the pick was protected, he was a mediocre to below average pitcher the last three years with the exception of one month last year when he dominated the awful White Sox, Astros, and Twins of the world. We already have one expensive veteran project on our hands in Edwin Jackson, and unlike Jimenez didn't even cost a draft pick.

SilenceS · Jan 9, 2014

[video=youtube;CR_YDnl37M4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR_YDnl37M4[/video]

For anyone who hasnt seen Tanaka pitch

patg006 · Jan 9, 2014

^I like the guy and want him in a cubs uni. I have no faith Boy Blunder will get him.

That being said, some of the high breaking shit that falls to the middle of the plate wont work here. Good hitters will take him yard.

beckdawg · Jan 10, 2014

Something really grating about people calling Theo "boy blunder" to me. It's not even because they don't like him. If that's the case, whatever. I don't know why exactly but I think it's because it sounds silly like something an adam west batman villain would say. I hadn't mentioned it before because who the hell cares what I think but you seem to use it in nearly every post. If you could use literally any other insult I'd really appreciate it. I recommend a page out of Office Space with "no-talent ass clown."

chibears55 · Jan 10, 2014

a tanaka deal will either be like 7/180 or 5/125

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Shawon0Meter · Jan 10, 2014

he has to be on the Cubs. That slow delivery is super annoying to go against in video games.

dabynsky · Jan 11, 2014

SilenceS said:
[video=youtube;CR_YDnl37M4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR_YDnl37M4[/video]

For anyone who hasnt seen Tanaka pitch

patg006 said:
^I like the guy and want him in a cubs uni. I have no faith Boy Blunder will get him.

That being said, some of the high breaking shit that falls to the middle of the plate wont work here. Good hitters will take him yard.

Thing to keep in mind when watching those highlights is that whenever you see Tanaka wearing a K hat with number 1 those are high school highlights.

DewsSox79 · Jan 11, 2014

splitter is nasty

dabynsky · Jan 11, 2014

DewsSox79 said:
splitter is nasty

I love that pitch and his is amazing...

chibears55 · Jan 15, 2014

Paul Maholm is Reportedly on the Cubs Radar

January 14, 2014*10:03 pm*By*Neil*38 CommentsThe Cubs could reunite with a former starter after all this winter.*According to a report from Mark Gonzalez,*Paul Maholm*is likely on the Cubs’ radar and could be an option if they are unable to sign*Masahiro Tanaka.*Theo Epsteinand*Jed Hoyer*have said they planned to add at least one starting pitcher to the roster this winter.Scott Baker*and*Jason Hammel*could be options as well and*Gonzalez added*Joe Saunders*to the list of possibilities.*According to the report,*Carlos Villanueva*will be stretched out as a starter this spring.

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brett05 · Jan 15, 2014

I can't believe Kershaw signed with the Dodgers when he could have been a Cub (assuming they were ready at that time to sign a major free agent) Completely stunned

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patg006 · Jan 15, 2014

brett05 said:
I can't believe Kershaw signed with the Dodgers when he could have been a Cub (assuming they were ready at that time to sign a major free agent) Completely stunned

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Clearly the idea of winning with a consistent contender 5 years from now (or is it 6?) with the guaranteed sustained success of Boy Blunder's plan frightens this guy. It seems to be frightening any free agent.

I wonder why that is? It can't be because of the cubs. That'd just be silly.