Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[Canth]

"Almost" stats have no meaning. Full stop.

Just like the Bears record. They "almost" won 3-4 games this year. But, they didn't, so it doesn't fucking matter what they almost did. What matters is what actually happened and that their actual record is 4-9.

Caleb passing stats so far as a rookie are (via ESPN):


That's it. Those are the stats. He has 5 INTs so far. It doesn't matter what 'almost' happened. The fact is he has thrown 16 TDs to 5 INTs through 13 games.

 

[dbldrew]

I agree, but common sense says that anytime a DB has a greater chance of catching the ball than the WR, that's not a good thing.

exactly its like they have never heard the phrase "place the ball where only your WR can catch it" So its either a completion or incomplete, there is 0 chance of an INT.

Here are a bunch of examples of CW putting the ball where only the DB can catch it, and @remydat is jerking off to pictures of Brown as HC convincing himself that its all ok because PFF told him so

 

[remydat]

Yuu don't get to decide the definition of "almost interception" dumbass. A good portion of those you claim are not almost interceptions because the WR is forced to play DB and knock the ball away from the CB.........That is the very definition of almost INT.

Yisus Christ are you stupid.

An almost INT is where the Defender has a greater than 50% chance of catching the ball.

You lose again.

Also, another spectacular failing hot take of a thread by you.

Turnover Worthy Plays are tracked and those dont qualify jackass. That is the point. It is categorically stupid to claim something as an almost int if the WR knocked it away.

Only a biased moron tries to ignore the fact that the DB and WR both are trying to play the ball so the only definition of an almost Int or TWP that matters are ones where the DB actually had a reasonable chance of catching ball.

There are plenty of times the WR is in the best position to catch a ball and a DB breaks it up. No idiot then calls that an almost catch. So again it is biased nonsense to ignore the fact the WR broke up the play.

 

[remydat]

I agree, but common sense says that anytime a DB has a greater chance of catching the ball than the WR, that's not a good thing.

That doesnt make it an almost Int if the DB actually knocks it away. Just like just because a WR has the best chance to catch a pass doesnt make it an almost catch if the DB knocks it away.

The value of the stat if there is value at all is to track passes that stand a high chance of being caught ie passes the DB actually got 2 hands on uncontested.

 

[remydat]

exactly its like they have never heard the phrase "place the ball where only your WR can catch it" So its either a completion or incomplete, there is 0 chance of an INT.

Here are a bunch of examples of CW putting the ball where only the DB can catch it, and @remydat is jerking off to pictures of Brown as HC convincing himself that its all ok because PFF told him so

No you lied and said it was easy interceptions and then posted plays where the majority of them were knocked away by the WR or the WR got his hands on it.

They may be poor passes but only one of those pics show anything close to an easy interception. You are being a moron.

 

[dbldrew]

No you lied and said it was easy interceptions and then posted plays where the majority of them were knocked away by the WR or the WR got his hands on it.

They may be poor passes but only one of those pics show anything close to an easy interception. You are being a moron.

Yes he has thrown several easy INT that got dropped and lots of balls that where put in a place where only the DB had a chance to catch it. its the exact opposite of what you want to happen. You seem happy that the Brown offence likes to put the ball in a position where the WR has no chance at catching it and the only chance at it being caught is from the DB. Are you confused again on the rolls of the players? Do you think Brown is also confused?

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Here’s FTN’s stats on Caleb(most of them ain’t pretty) but his interception worthy plays is much lower than what dipshit posted 8 interception worthy throws on the year. This doesn’t excuse taking bad sacks, throwing more inaccurate than Trubisky and looking for the home run ball waaaay too often.

When was this taken? It says he only has 11 TDs.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Yes he has thrown several easy INT that got dropped and lots of balls that where put in a place where only the DB had a chance to catch it. its the exact opposite of what you want to happen. You seem happy that the Brown offence likes to put the ball in a position where the WR has no chance at catching it and the only chance at it being caught is from the DB. Are you confused again on the rolls of the players? Do you think Brown is also confused?

You are going to be amazed when you see the entire games other QBs have and the "almost interceptions" they throw with your definition.

 

[bamainatlanta]

When was this taken? It says he only has 11 TDs.

That stat is under red zone TD’s

 

[remydat]

Yes he has thrown several easy INT that got dropped and lots of balls that where put in a place where only the DB had a chance to catch it. its the exact opposite of what you want to happen. You seem happy that the Brown offence likes to put the ball in a position where the WR has no chance at catching it and the only chance at it being caught is from the DB. Are you confused again on the rolls of the players? Do you think Brown is also confused?

I am happy he has thrown 0 Ints.

I have complained about Caleb's accuracy plenty. I am just not willing to lie like you and claim a ball the WR knocked away was an easy interception dropped.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I am happy he has thrown 0 Ints.

I have complained about Caleb's accuracy plenty. I am just not willing to lie like you and claim a ball the WR knocked away was an easy interception dropped.

I’m pretty sure we are all freaked out about Caleb’s accuracy issues. He has a hitch in his windup to go along with feet tapping as he throws. He has to focus on removing the hitch and keeping his feet set.

 

[remydat]

I’m pretty sure we are all freaked out about Caleb’s accuracy issues. He has a hitch in his windup to go along with feet tapping as he throws. He has to focus on removing the hitch and keeping his feet set.

I have said the same thing about his feet on multiple occassions. He is used to throwing off platform and doesnt seem to understand the value of being clean with his footwork as a result. So he gets too sloppy with his feet too often.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I have said the same thing about his feet on multiple occassions. He is used to throwing off platform and doesnt seem to understand the value of being clean with his footwork as a result. So he gets too sloppy with his feet too often.

Yep and combine that with a slight hitch in his windup, it guarantees a bad off target throw.

 

[nc0gnet0]

That doesnt make it an almost Int if the DB actually knocks it away. Just like just because a WR has the best chance to catch a pass doesnt make it an almost catch if the DB knocks it away.

The value of the stat if there is value at all is to track passes that stand a high chance of being caught ie passes the DB actually got 2 hands on uncontested.

Yeah sure, okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....

LMAO

 

[remydat]

Yeah sure, okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....

LMAO

Translation - You lost the argument and don't have anything intelligent to say.

 

[PrideisBears]

Remy and dbldrew sitting in a tree; A-r-g-u-i-n-g

 

[dbldrew]

I am happy he has thrown 0 Ints.

I have complained about Caleb's accuracy plenty. I am just not willing to lie like you and claim a ball the WR knocked away was an easy interception dropped.

In a learning year it would probably be better if some of those ended up being held onto by the DB so he can learn not to throw a ball in those situations.

But a few points, you accusing me of liying is just you lashing out because you got caught in another lie about TWP you posted. Me saying it's an easy INT is my opinion, that is not a lie but it's my opinion.
Second 3 of those pictures the WR did not touch the ball, well except for the last one when the ball was thrown behind the WR and bounced off his shoulder up into the air and was an easy INT that was dropped.

Third our debate spans multiple games not just the lions game.

So in conclusion you love it when Brown has CW place the ball where only the DB has a chance a making a play on it.

 

[remydat]

In a learning year it would probably be better if some of those ended up being held onto by the DB so he can learn not to throw a ball in those situations.

But a few points, you accusing me of liying is just you lashing out because you got caught in another lie about TWP you posted. Me saying it's an easy INT is my opinion, that is not a lie but it's my opinion.
Second 3 of those pictures the WR did not touch the ball, well except for the last one when the ball was thrown behind the WR and bounced off his shoulder up into the air and was an easy INT that was dropped.

Third our debate spans multiple games not just the lions game.

So in conclusion you love it when Brown has CW place the ball where only the DB has a chance a making a play on it.

Cool story but objectively speaking there is no scenario where the below is an easy int so you lied sir.

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Let's make this simple. This is your 4th Pic. How the hell can you claim this is an almost Int or easy interception dropped? Like Jesus dude just be honest and admit this example is bullshit.

We know you lied because when confronted you did not claim this was an easy interception. You claimed you posted 7 pictures and you only need 3 or 4 to be easy ints. So you knew this was not an easy int but posted it anyway just to muddy the waters.

So again out of the 7 pictures you posted please actually point to the ones you are claiming are the 3 or 4 easy interceptions dropped. Until then no point debating if you are going to lie about the above being an easy int.

 

[dbldrew]

Cool story but objectively speaking there is no scenario where the below is an easy int so you lied sir.

We know you lied because when confronted you did not claim this was an easy interception. You claimed you posted 7 pictures and you only need 3 or 4. So again posting the above as evidence of an easy int dropped is a lie. There is no one that honestly believes the above depicts and easy int dropped not even you.

So again out of the 7 pictures you posted please actually point to the ones you are claiming are the 3 or 4 easy interceptions dropped.

man you really get riled up when I catch you in a lie dont you?

What I posted can not be a lie when I literally said when I posted all the pictures that "some of them looked way worse in real time compared to looking back in slow motion" thats me admitting some of the "close calls" are not as bad as I thought. Now in your typical vortex you want to ignore that and just call me a liar.

What I did was post all the ones I remembered and said some are not as bad as I thought but still presented all the close calls and people can judge for themselves. What you did was lie and manipulated the TWP numbers and % because you are full of shit and incapable of having an honest debate when you are all twisted up in your vortex of stupidity.

 

[remydat]

man you really get riled up when I catch you in a lie dont you?

What I posted can not be a lie when I literally said when I posted all the pictures that "some of them looked way worse in real time compared to looking back in slow motion" thats me admitting some of the "close calls" are not as bad as I thought. Now in your typical vortex you want to ignore that and just call me a liar.

What I did was post all the ones I remembered and said some are not as bad as I thought but still presented all the close calls and people can judge for themselves. What you did was lie and manipulated the TWP numbers and % because you are full of shit and incapable of having an honest debate when you are all twisted up in your vortex of stupidity.

So once again which are the 3 or 4 you are claiming are clear easy interceptions dropped. I dont care about ones that werent as bad as you thought. That is just a weasally way of you admitting you posted some BS examples.

All I want to know is what are the actual 3 or 4 examples you definitely claim are easy interceptions. The fact it has been pages and you still won't answer shows how full of shit you are.

Post the 3 or 4 examples and explain why you consider it easy. It is your argument so stop being a coward and defend it.