Thomas Brown for Head Coach

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Imagine trying to make an argument about something when professional stat counters completely disagree with your stats. Next up is the changing yardage stats to fit your narrative.
We don't have to imagine someone doing it, we all remember you and all the Field cult members doing this with the OL win rate stat.
 

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Yes he has thrown several easy INT that got dropped and lots of balls that where put in a place where only the DB had a chance to catch it. its the exact opposite of what you want to happen. You seem happy that the Brown offence likes to put the ball in a position where the WR has no chance at catching it and the only chance at it being caught is from the DB. Are you confused again on the rolls of the players? Do you think Brown is also confused?
The almost INT argument is soo fricking weak and is deservedly mocked whenever it rears its ugly head... especially when CW just extended the Bears record of consecutive games with no INT. He also holds the rookie record for consecutive passes and games without an actual INT. He just broke JFs sack record as well.:( Yes we know he often tries to do too much but we also know where most of that blame goes. That too much may become just right with an average OL.

I can't believe this is what's getting harped on when every QB has those 'ALMOST INTs' and he hasn't thrown an ACTUAL INT for 7 straight games. He had a down day last game but he's also a rookie with a very diminished staff. It didn't look great but the actual #s were 74% with 2 TDs and no INTs and in the weeks before, he had the Bear in positions to win... or have we forgotten what got the HC fired. Blaming the 49ers loss on Williams after the Bear RBs gained all of 41 yards at 2.4ypc and that D performance is ridiculous.

Purdy completed 80% for 325 yds and an over 13 ypa.
but let's discuss CW's almost INTs, LOL.

No team in history has lost this many consecutive games when their QB hasn't thrown an INT and it's not like CW is playing with his hands in his pockets. He is not the problem.
 
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The almost INT argument is soo fricking weak and is deservedly mocked whenever it rears its ugly head... especially when CW just extended the Bears record of no consecutive games with no INT. He also holds the rookie record for consecutive passes without an INT. He just broke JFs sack record as well. Yes we know he often tries to do too much but we also know where most of that blame goes. That too much may become just right with an average OL.

I can't believe this is what's getting harped on when every QB has those 'ALMOST INTs' and he hasn't thrown an ACTUAL INT for 7 straight games. He had a down day last game but he's also a rookie with a very diminished staff. It didn't look great but the actual #s were 74% with 2 TDs and no INTs and in the weeks before, he had the Bear in positions to win... or have we forgotten what got the HC fired. Blaming the 49ers loss on Williams after the Bear RBs gained all of 41 yards at 2.4ypc and that D performance is ridiculous.

Purdy completed 80% for 325 yds and an over 13 ypa.
but let's discuss CW's almost INTs, LOL.

It's brought up more because of Brown being the OC.

Remy was bragging about the 0 INT in the Brown run offense. The only reason the Brown run offense has less INT is because the DB kept dropping the ball. That was the whole point that started the vortex of stupidity.

Throwing the ball to the wrong team is a bad idea. Pretty sure we can all agree on that right? The amount of times the ball has been thrown to the wrong team has skyrocketed once Brown took over. Yes they get dropped, but to pretend this isn't an issue is just silly.
 

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It's brought up more because of Brown being the OC.

Remy was bragging about the 0 INT in the Brown run offense. The only reason the Brown run offense has less INT is because the DB kept dropping the ball. That was the whole point that started the vortex of stupidity.

Throwing the ball to the wrong team is a bad idea. Pretty sure we can all agree on that right? The amount of times the ball has been thrown to the wrong team has skyrocketed once Brown took over. Yes they get dropped, but to pretend this isn't an issue is just silly.
I think the point is that it's an issue for every QB. Bears have dropped plenty in the last few weeks as well.
 

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We don't have to imagine someone doing it, we all remember you and all the Field cult members doing this with the OL win rate stat.
I have no idea what this means. English please
 

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I think the point is that it's an issue for every QB. Bears have dropped plenty in the last few weeks as well.

Dude just wants to cry for crying sake. Even when all the data shows his premise is flawed he claims all the independent data is wrong and only his view is correct.
Caleb now has 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown in 4 games.

Only so much you can do when the players cant execute.

He has 4 more games to go.
Imagine getting upset about the above factual statement. Next he is going to cry those TDs dont count because the WR was too open.
 

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I think the point is that it's an issue for every QB. Bears have dropped plenty in the last few weeks as well.
Drops happen for every QB good and bad. But we are comparing the same QB with the same teammates and the only change is the OC and then the ball going to the wrong team has skyrocketed. This is an issue regardless if the drops keep his stats clean.
 

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I have no idea what this means. English please
You = hypocrite

Don't think I can dumb it down any more, so if you're still confused, then maybe look in the mirror and give yourself a big smile?
 

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You = hypocrite

Don't think I can dumb it down any more, so if you're still confused, then maybe look in the mirror and give yourself a big smile?
So you’ve got nothing. Thanks
 

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Drops happen for every QB good and bad. But we are comparing the same QB with the same teammates and the only change is the OC and then the ball going to the wrong team has skyrocketed. This is an issue regardless if the drops keep his stats clean.

Please post actual evidence of this skyrocketing outside of your personal opinion.

Really weird because I still see 0 ints so by definition the ball has not gone to the other team as typically that term would refer to Turnovers not mythical turnovers that exist only in your head.
 

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Dude just wants to cry for crying sake. Even when all the data shows his premise is flawed he claims all the independent data is wrong and only his view is correct.

PFF is wrong. You proved it was wrong.
You posted the 3 games from GB, MN, and Det with having 4 TPI and. 2.6% that data is factual wrong.
The 3 games with his pass attempts, sacks, and rushes. He had 147 plays with 4 TPI = 2.7%.

Also the TPI definition is again

For quarterbacks, turnover-worthy plays happen in two main ways: either by making a pass that is highly likely to be intercepted or by failing to secure the ball, leading to a fumble.

"Not all turnover-worthy plays are equal. PFF's grading system captures the different levels of poor throws, ranging from a late pass that allows a defender to break on the ball to a misread where the ball is thrown directly to a defender or an easy interception handed directly to the defense."

So picture 1 was a "pass that allows a defender to break on the ball "
TPI #1

Picture #2 was "ball is thrown directly to a defender "
TPI #2

Picture #5 "pass that allows a defender to break on the ball "
TPI#3

Picture #6 "ball is thrown directly to a defender "
TPI#4

So PFF needs to actually apply the definition of what a TPI is on the plays accurately or change the definition

Based on their criteria there should be at least 4 not 1 and they can't seem to do math.

So at this point I don't think this is a very trustworthy stat
 

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PFF is wrong. You proved it was wrong.
You posted the 3 games from GB, MN, and Det with having 4 TPI and. 2.6% that data is factual wrong.
The 3 games with his pass attempts, sacks, and rushes. He had 147 plays with 4 TPI = 2.7%.

Also the TPI definition is again

For quarterbacks, turnover-worthy plays happen in two main ways: either by making a pass that is highly likely to be intercepted or by failing to secure the ball, leading to a fumble.

"Not all turnover-worthy plays are equal. PFF's grading system captures the different levels of poor throws, ranging from a late pass that allows a defender to break on the ball to a misread where the ball is thrown directly to a defender or an easy interception handed directly to the defense."

So picture 1 was a "pass that allows a defender to break on the ball "
TPI #1

Picture #2 was "ball is thrown directly to a defender "
TPI #2

Picture #5 "pass that allows a defender to break on the ball "
TPI#3

Picture #6 "ball is thrown directly to a defender "
TPI#4

So PFF needs to actually apply the definition of what a TPI is on the plays accurately or change the definition

Based on their criteria there should be at least 4 not 1 and they can't seem to do math.

So at this point I don't think this is a very trustworthy stat
Nope PFF had it as 1. Your opinion is irrelevant as it is not your definition or judgment that goes into the independent data. It is PFF's. PFF applied their definition and in their judgment he had 1 TWP.

You stupidly pretending you know better than PFF how to apply their definition is laughable as you are not privy to their detailed guidance or methodology. You read a few sentences on their website and pretend you know with 100% certainty what it means when it is clearly subject to interpretation as how you interpret it is clearly different than how I interpret it. So the only people that know for sure are the PFF graders who are privy to the detailed methodology and per those graders he had 1 TWP.

Further their data is consistent with the data that @bamainatlanta provided from other sites so there is no data to support your claim. We just have your biased opinion.

Finally the change was 2.4% vs 2.6%. That is not skyrocketing dumbass. There was a slight uptick which may be the result of smaller sample size and tougher competition.
 
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Pure dumb luck is not a criteria I want to use to pick the next HC..
I would hope you don't make any decisions on what didn't happen.

Demontae Kazee leads the league in ints. Oh wait! He only held on to one. In addition he only has 2 PDs. Why? Dude has hands of stone and dropped ints thrown directly to him.

You don't and shouldn't count something that almost happened.

If it didn't happen it didn't happen.
 

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Nope PFF had it as 1. Your opinion is irrelevant as it is not your definition or judgment that goes into the independent data. It is PFF's. PFF applied their definition and in their judgment he had 1 TWP.

You stupidly pretending you know better than PFF how to apply their definition is laughable as you are not privy to their detailed guidance or methodology. You read a few sentences on their website and pretend you know with 100% certainty what it means when it is clearly subject to interpretation as how you interpret it is clearly different than how I interpret it. So the only people that know for sure are the PFF graders who are privy to the detailed methodology and per those graders he had 1 TWP.

Further their data is consistent with the data that @bamainatlanta provided from other sites so there is no data to support your claim. We just have your biased opinion.

Finally the change was 2.4% vs 2.6%. That is not skyrocketing dumbass. There was a slight uptick which may be the result of smaller sample size and tougher competition.
Take your "L" and sit down.
 

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Sir Bears fans are talking. Go **** your fish or find some Lions fans that actually like you.
Are the talking about making Thomas Brown the head coach?
Or Trading for Myles Garret?
Or bringing back Khali Mack?
Or are they making mock drafts already, with 4 games left to go in the season?
Just curious.

* Are these the same fans that were talking about playoffs at the beginning of the season?

Maybe Bears fans should talk less, and listen more.....................

**some bears fans (looking at you)
 

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