Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[dbldrew]

I’ve got some bad news for you…

Lol good point

 

[dbldrew]

Nope PFF had it as 1. Your opinion is irrelevant as it is not your definition or judgment that goes into the independent data. It is PFF's. PFF applied their definition and in their judgment he had 1 TWP.

You stupidly pretending you know better than PFF how to apply their definition is laughable as you are not privy to their detailed guidance or methodology. You read a few sentences on their website and pretend you know with 100% certainty what it means when it is clearly subject to interpretation as how you interpret it is clearly different than how I interpret it. So the only people that know for sure are the PFF graders who are privy to the detailed methodology and per those graders he had 1 TWP.

Further their data is consistent with the data that @bamainatlanta provided from other sites so there is no data to support your claim. We just have your biased opinion.

Finally the change was 2.4% vs 2.6%. That is not skyrocketing dumbass. There was a slight uptick which may be the result of smaller sample size and tougher competition.

No dumbass I'm saying that PFF created a criteria of what a TWP is and didn't follow their own criteria.

So if they do not accurately follow their own criteria evenly then the stat they did was useless.

Also it's not 2.6% dumbass it's 2.7% apparently you and PFF can't do simple math. And yes that's another reason to ignore you and also PFF

 

[remydat]

Are the talking about making Thomas Brown the head coach?
Or Trading for Myles Garret?
Or bringing back Khali Mack?
Or are they making mock drafts already, with 4 games left to go in the season?
Just curious.

* Are these the same fans that were talking about playoffs at the beginning of the season?

Maybe Bears fans should talk less, and listen more.....................

**some bears fans (looking at you)

This forum is for us to talk about the Bears jackass. Lions fans used to talk about the same shit even as they sucked for 70 years because that is what fans do. You just dont know that because you arent welcomed by real Lions fans.

 

[nc0gnet0]

This forum is for us to talk about jackass. Lions fans used to talk about the same shit even as they sucked for 70 years because that is what fans do. You just dont know that because you arent welcomed by real Lions fans.

Lion's fans want Thomas Brown for a HC?

 

[dbldrew]

I would hope you don't make any decisions on what didn't happen.

Demontae Kazee leads the league in ints. Oh wait! He only held on to one. In addition he only has 2 PDs. Why? Dude has hands of stone and dropped ints thrown directly to him.

You don't and shouldn't count something that almost happened.

If it didn't happen it didn't happen.

Of course you make decisions on what didn't happen, you use all the information you have to make the decision.
And if your OC has a system that keeps putting the ball in the wrong teams hand. That has to be taken into consideration regardless if they where dropped.

 

[remydat]

No bumbass I'm saying that PFF created a criteria of what a TWP is and didn't follow their own criteria.

So if they do not accurately follow their own criteria evenly then the stat they did was useless.

Also it's not 2.6% dumbass it's 2.7% apparently you and PFF can't do simple math. And yes that's another reason to ignore you and also PFF

And I am saying you dont know that because you dont have access to their detailed methodology or why they graded the plays the way they did. You read something they posted on a site and interpreted it in the dumbest way possible.

We know your interpretation is dumb because we know their determination of TWP against Detroit agrees with how I interpret what they said not how you did.

I didnt bother to redo PFF's math because it is irrelevant to my point. 2.4 is 2.6/2.7 still not skyrocketing so your argumemt is still wrong. We know your argument is wrong because if you actually had evidence that proved ir skyrocketed you would present it instead of stupidly crying about 2.6 vs 2.7.

 

[remydat]

Lion's fans want Thomas Brown for a HC?

No Lions fans on a Lion's message board talk about all sorts of Lions related topics. Like how Joey Harrington was going to be a beast or how they were going to win a SB with CJ and Stafford or how Okudah was the next great corner or how Hendon Hooker was going to be a top 10 QB. That is what fans do jackass. You are the only idiot that spends half his day on a rival team's message board crying that they talk about their team.

 

[nc0gnet0]

And I am saying you dont know that because you dont have access to their detailed methodology or why they graded the plays the way they did. You read something they posted on a site and interpreted it in the dumbest way possible.

We know your interpretation is dumb because we know their determination of TWP against Detroit agrees with how I interpret what they said not how you did.

I didnt bother to redo PFF's math because it is irrelevant to my point. 2.4 is 2.6/2.7 still not skyrocketing so your argumemt is still wrong. We know your argument is wrong because if you actually had evidence that proved ir skyrocketed you would present it instead of stupidly crying about 2.6 vs 2.7.

Is this kinda like how you insisted Rome Odunze would be the #3 Wr on the Bears, and Keenan Allen would be the #2?

Checking for a friend.

 

[remydat]

No more like how you chickened out on a bet between Allen and Jameson because you thought Allen would outproduce Jameson.

 

[jsu34]

Of course you make decisions on what didn't happen, you use all the information you have to make the decision.
And if your OC has a system that keeps putting the ball in the wrong teams hand. That has to be taken into consideration regardless if they where dropped.

No you don't.

That's backwards logic and you know better.

No one in history has ever planned on what didn't happen.

And I still fail to see what the hell you think you're proving because as far as the stats and end results say it never happened.

One of these days CW will actually throw it to the other team and they will actually catch it. Then it will be recorded as such.

Until then, it hasn't happened no matter how hard you try to argue that it did. Again because it didn't happen.

You actually helped Remy win this round with this failed logic.

 

[dbldrew]

And I am saying you dont know that because you dont have access to their detailed methodology or why they graded the plays the way they did. You read something they posted on a site and interpreted it in the dumbest way possible.

We know your interpretation is dumb because we know their determination of TWP against Detroit agrees with how I interpret what they said not how you did.

I didnt bother to redo PFF's math because it is irrelevant to my point. 2.4 is 2.6/2.7 still not skyrocketing so your argumemt is still wrong. We know your argument is wrong because if you actually had evidence that proved ir skyrocketed you would present it instead of stupidly crying about 2.6 vs 2.7.

I have their definition of what a TPI is and 3 if not 4 of the plays in the lions game fit that definition perfectly. So if they use some methodology that differed from what they said they do. That's just another example of them being not trustworthy.

The 2.6 v 2.7 is a big deal because if they can't do simple math then that's just another example of them not being trustworthy.

Also it's not 2.4 vs 2.7 your just lying again.. or just another example of you being as clueless as PFF when it comes to simple math.
The 2.4 includes the games with the 2.7 so that is not an accurate comparison with pre Brown vs post Brown. The fact I need to explain that to you is embarrassing.. but you do follow PFF so..

 

[dbldrew]

No you don't.

That's backwards logic and you know better.

No one in history has ever planned on what didn't happen.

And I still fail to see what the hell you think you're proving because as far as the stats and end results say it never happened.

One of these days CW will actually throw it to the other team and they will actually catch it. Then it will be recorded as such.

Until then, it hasn't happened no matter how hard you try to argue that it did. Again because it didn't happen.

You actually helped Remy win this round with this failed logic.

You base your decisions on what could happen. It's the reason CW was drafted. He like ever other player taken has a grand total of 0 NFL stats. But you are choosing this player over other actual NFL players that have actual NFL experiences and NFL stats based purely on what might happen.

So yes if your OC has a system that puts the ball into the wrong teams hands, what might happen? Well the other team might stop dropping them. So yes that something that needs to be considered

 

[nc0gnet0]

No more like how you chickened out on a bet between Allen and Jameson because you thought Allen would outproduce Jameson.

I didn't want to steal your comic book money.
Not to mention, I was already betting on jameson vs Rome. You as always, came in and tried to move the goal posts. Your dumbass was claiming that it was Allen that would be the #2, not Rome. Well guess what dumb ass, I was right, you were wrong, as always.

Listen more.....talk less.

 

[jsu34]

You base your decisions on what could happen. It's the reason CW was drafted. He like ever other player taken has a grand total of 0 NFL stats. But you are choosing this player over other actual NFL players that have actual NFL experiences and NFL stats based purely on what might happen.

So yes if your OC has a system that puts the ball into the wrong teams hands, what might happen? Well the other team might stop dropping them. So yes that something that needs to be considered

Try again. Now you're saying what could happen. Yet in your discussion with Remy you harped over and over about CW almost turning it over. Even to the point where you shaded PFF.

Try talking to Atlanta. They might be feeling better had Cousins only almost threw the 8 pick with 0 TDs.

CW has not had an Interception for nearly a month and a half. That is a fact. Find other reasons to criticize both CW and Brown. There's plenty. Almost turnovers will never be a thing.

 

[remydat]

I have their definition of what a TPI is and 3 if not 4 of the plays in the lions game fit that definition perfectly. So if they use some methodology that differed from what they said they do. That's just another example of them being not trustworthy.

The 2.6 v 2.7 is a big deal because if they can't do simple math then that's just another example of them not being trustworthy.

Also it's not 2.4 vs 2.7 your just lying again.. or just another example of you being as clueless as PFF when it comes to simple math.
The 2.4 includes the games with the 2.7 so that is not an accurate comparison with pre Brown vs post Brown. The fact I need to explain that to you is embarrassing.. but you do follow PFF so..

I disagree. I think the way you are interpreting it is wrong. They are not pretending the WR is not there like you are. A ball is not thrown directly at a defender if a WR is there and can make a play on the ball as well. The support for you being wrong is the fact PFF had 1 TWP.

I did not say the 2.4 was just the games with Waldron. I compared Brown to the average on the year. If you want a comparison from Waldron then it is 2.3 vs 2.6 which still isnt skyrocketing. 2.3 vs 2.7 is also still not skyrocketing. So what is your actual evidence of it skyrocketing?

Finally the reason I did not compare to Waldron is because the comparison is stupid. These passes arent off because of scheme. They are off because Caleb has been inaccurate. You are the only dummy pretending Caleb's errant passes are due to the scheme. One of the dumbest assertions you have made.

 

[remydat]

I didn't want to steal your comic book money.
Not to mention, I was already betting on jameson vs Rome. You as always, came in and tried to move the goal posts. Your dumbass was claiming that it was Allen that would be the #2, not Rome. Well guess what dumb ass, I was right, you were wrong, as always.

Listen more.....talk less.

Nope you were scared. And I was right. Allen started the year as No 2 as he played more snaps and played more in 2 WR personnel. Rome has just outperformed him due to Allen being banged up.

 

[dbldrew]

Try again. Now you're saying what could happen. Yet in your discussion with Remy you harped over and over about CW almost turning it over. Even to the point where you shaded PFF.

Try talking to Atlanta. They might be feeling better had Cousins only almost threw the 8 pick with 0 TDs.

CW has not had an Interception for nearly a month and a half. That is a fact. Find other reasons to criticize both CW and Brown. There's plenty. Almost turnovers will never be a thing.

this thread is about Brown as the HC. Of course its about what could happen.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Nope you were scared. And I was right. Allen started the year as No 2 as he played more snaps and played more in 2 WR personnel. Rome has just outperformed him due to Allen being banged up.

Keenan Allen is technically the #2 WR. He is 2nd on the team with 84 targets despite missing games.

 

[remydat]

Keenan Allen is technically the #2 WR. He is 2nd on the team with 84 targets despite missing games.

This is the problem with snowflake Bears fans masquerading as Lions fans. They cant be bothered to do any research.

 

[dbldrew]

I disagree. I think the way you are interpreting it is wrong. They are not pretending the WR is not there like you are. A ball is not thrown directly at a defender if a WR is there and can make a play on the ball as well. The support for you being wrong is the fact PFF had 1 TWP.

All of this that you posted is just speculation on your part and goes against what they actually said they use for a TPI.. You are just making things up at this point.

I did not say the 2.4 was just the games with Waldron. I compared Brown to the average on the year. If you want a comparison from Waldron then it is 2.3 vs 2.6 which still isnt skyrocketing. 2.3 vs 2.7 is also still not skyrocketing. So what is your actual evidence of it skyrocketing?

correct.. which is stupid.

and the 2.3% would be compared to a more accurate 5.4% (and thats just fixing PFF mistakes in the lions game so might be a even worse looking at the GB game as well) so yeah pretty big jump.

Finally the reason I did not compare to Waldron is because the comparison is stupid. These passes arent off because of scheme. They are off because Caleb has been inaccurate. You are the only dummy pretending Caleb's errant passes are due to the scheme. One of the dumbest assertions you have made.

I have been pretty vocal about his erratic accuracy. But part of the OC developing him is to help fix that not make it worse.