Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[remydat]

I can't post a negative dumbass. You are saying PFF is using something they didn't say they use in their definition. It's up to you to post proof they said it somewhere else.

Otherwise it's just complete BS speculation on your part.

Yes I have gone through all the games.

And you using PFF to counter what I said doesn't work because it's a proven inaccurate source. So your going to have to do better then a proven inaccurate source. Post similar examples of games like I did. Otherwise I accept you conceding you do not have a counter argument.

So as I said dumbass you are making an assumption/speculating. That blurb doesnt give you enough info to know 100% how they do it. However it is obvious my interpretation of how they do it is more likely to be correct because they had Caleb with only 1 TWP vs the Lions.

No you didnt go through all the games. For the Lions you specifically went back and checked because @bamainatlanta and I asked. You are lying your ass off if you claim you went back and checked all 13 games like you did the Lions.

So please go back through all the games like you did for the Lions and post how many TWP he had in each game so we can calculate a proper percentage. Thanks.

Until then I accept PFF's analysis.

 

[bamainatlanta]

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So as I said dumbass you are making an assumption/speculating. That blurb doesnt give you enough info to know 100% how they do it. However it is obvious my interpretation of how they do it is more likely to be correct because they had Caleb with only 1 TWP vs the Lions.

No you didnt go through all the games. For the Lions you specifically went back and checked because @bamainatlanta and I asked. You are lying your ass off if you claim you went back and checked all 13 games like you did the Lions.

So please go back through all the games like you did for the Lions and post how many TWP he had in each game so we can calculate a proper percentage. Thanks.

Until then I accept PFF's analysis.

It’s not just PFF; it’s FTN & PFR too.

 

[dbldrew]

So as I said dumbass you are making an assumption/speculating. That blurb doesnt give you enough info to know 100% how they do it. However it is obvious my interpretation of how they do it is more likely to be correct because they had Caleb with only 1 TWP vs the Lions.

No you didnt go through all the games. For the Lions you specifically went back and checked because @bamainatlanta and I asked. You are lying your ass off if you claim you went back and checked all 13 games like you did the Lions.

So please go back through all the games like you did for the Lions and post how many TWP he had in each game so we can calculate a proper percentage. Thanks.

Until then I accept PFF's analysis.

I'm not making an assumption, I'm taking what PFF said they use for calculating what a TWP is.
PFF said they use A,B andC to calculate what a TWP is . You are saying they also use D. It's up to you to prove that they used D because they never said that.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you make a claim they they use a methodology other then what they said they used and expect me to prove they don't you my friend are a moron.


Also as I said PFF has not been a very reliable source. Whatever algorithm they use to calculate the % has a flaw (or they are manually doing the math and fucking it up)

But let's pretend for a moment that they are accurate with at least determining what a TPI is, Lions game said they are not, but let's give you the benefit of the doubt here.

CW averaged 1 TPI per game before Brown, after Brown that went up 50% so even with attempting to use the flawed PFF.. you still have failed.

So your only course of action at this point is to post pictures on par with what I have posted, otherwise this is just another example of me destroying you and your vortex.

I will accept your refusal as surrender

 

[remydat]

I'm not making an assumption, I'm taking what PFF said they use for calculating what a TWP is.
PFF said they use A,B andC to calculate what a TWP is . You are saying they also use D. It's up to you to prove that they used D because they never said that.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you make a claim they they use a methodology other then what they said they used and expect me to prove they don't you my friend are a moron.

Also as I said PFF has not been a very reliable source. Whatever algorithm they use to calculate the % has a flaw (or they are manually doing the math and fucking it up)

But let's pretend for a moment that they are accurate with at least determining what a TPI is, Lions game said they are not, but let's give you the benefit of the doubt here.

CW averaged 1 TPI per game before Brown, after Brown that went up 50% so even with attempting to use the flawed PFF.. you still have failed.

So your only course of action at this point is to post pictures on par with what I have posted, otherwise this is just another example of me destroying you and your vortex.

I will accept your refusal as surrender

They said a TWP is a pass with a high chance of being intercepted. Explain how a pass had a high chance of being intercepted if the WR knocks it away?

It didnt go up 50% after Brown. Further a TWP due to a bad pass by Caleb is the result of the scheme dumbass.

So your entire premise was stupid. The scheme whether it is Waldron or Brown isnt responsible for inaccute Caleb passes.

 

[remydat]

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It’s not just PFF; it’s FTN & PFR too.

Yes we are expected to believe that pretty much every independent website that tracks this is wrong and only DBLdumbass is right.

 

[dbldrew]

They said a TWP is a pass with a high chance of being intercepted. Explain how a pass had a high chance of being intercepted if the WR knocks it away?

It didnt go up 50% after Brown. Further a TWP due to a bad pass by Caleb is the result of the scheme dumbass.

So your entire premise was stupid. The scheme whether it is Waldron or Brown isnt responsible for inaccute Caleb passes.

3 of the passes where not nocked away by the WR so another fail.

And yes the TPI per game went up 50% after Brown took over according to PFF sorry Remy but your whole argument has fallen apart.

It wasn't my entire premise, it was yours. You where bragging about 0int under Brown. You brought up the premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of INT. Did you forget that part already?

Your vortexes really don't work out that well for you.. maybe you should try avoiding them in the future

 

[remydat]

3 of the passes where not nocked away by the WR so another fail.

And yes the TPI per game went up 50% after Brown took over according to PFF sorry Remy but your whole argument has fallen apart.

It wasn't my entire premise, it was yours. You where bragging about 0int under Brown. You brought up the premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of INT. Did you forget that part already?

Your vortexes really don't work out that well for you.. maybe you should try avoiding them in the future

Post the 3 you are talking about.

No it didnt. At the time of the debate and per PFF, it went from 2.3 to 2.6 so that is 13%.

I didnt bring up any premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of ints. I made a factual post that Caleb had 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown. That's it. At no point did I say Brown was the reason for the lack of Ints. It was simply a statement of truth. Those are his stats under Brown.

 

[run and shoot]

@dbldrew​

Post the 3 you are talking about.

No it didnt. At the time of the debate and per PFF, it went from 2.3 to 2.6 so that is 13%.

I didnt bring up any premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of ints. I made a factual post that Caleb had 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown. That's it. At no point did I say Brown was the reason for the lack of Ints. It was simply a statement of truth. Those are his stats under Brown.

"Caleb had 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown."

-remydat

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[dbldrew]

Post the 3 you are talking about.

No it didnt. At the time of the debate and per PFF, it went from 2.3 to 2.6 so that is 13%.

I didnt bring up any premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of ints. I made a factual post that Caleb had 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown. That's it. At no point did I say Brown was the reason for the lack of Ints. It was simply a statement of truth. Those are his stats under Brown.

PFF has messed up the % so why are you attempting to still use those for your argument?

Fact is that he had averaged 1 TPI per game and that increased by 50% under Brown. And that's pretended he only had 1 TPI in the lions game.

So still giving you the best case scenario with only giving 1 TPI in the lions game. You are still wrong.

The "throwing to the wrong team" skyrocketed under Brown even using the PFF flawed TPI

 

[satchice]

To get this back on track, does anyone still want Brown to be HC? I think even Remy is off that train, is that accurate?

 

[Dstone5553]

I didnt bring up any premise that Brown was responsible for the lack of ints. I made a factual post that Caleb had 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown. That's it. At no point did I say Brown was the reason for the lack of Ints. It was simply a statement of truth. Those are his stats under Brown.

Luck plays into that stat as well because there were several terrible passes that should have and normally would have been interceptions.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Luck plays into that stat as well because there were several terrible passes that should have and normally would have been interceptions.

Hey now, this is a Remy thread........common sense is not allowed.

 

[remydat]

PFF has messed up the % so why are you attempting to still use those for your argument?

Fact is that he had averaged 1 TPI per game and that increased by 50% under Brown. And that's pretended he only had 1 TPI in the lions game.

So still giving you the best case scenario with only giving 1 TPI in the lions game. You are still wrong.

The "throwing to the wrong team" skyrocketed under Brown even using the PFF flawed TPI

Sir I asked you to post the 3 you are ralking about. Why are you afraid to do so?

And yes the TPI per game went up 50% after Brown took over according to PFF sorry Remy but your whole argument has fallen apart.

You said his it went up 50% per PFF so I am using PFF because you said PFF dumbass. PFF has it at 13% ie 2.3 to 2.6 not 50% so you are wrong.

 

[remydat]

Luck plays into that stat as well because there were several terrible passes that should have and normally would have been interceptions.

Luck plays into it for every QB so unless you going to make an adjustment like this for every QB it is a useless excercise.

We already have PFF, PFR and FTN that tracks this for all QBs and Caleb's TWPs are not significantly higher than other QBs. He is average to above average in this regard depending on the source.

The other point is if Caleb throws an inaccurate pass that is not the scheme's fault. That is Caleb's fault so trying to blame Brown for Caleb's poor passes is pretty dumb.

 

[remydat]

Interesting thought listening to this. KOC worked with Brown and Brown seems to have high praise of Flores and his D.

Flores is expected to be a candidate for HC in part because he and Poles know eaxh other from BC so if Bears hire Flores as HC does he keep Brown on as OC because KOC vouches for Brown to Flores and to keep some continuity for Caleb?

 

[bamainatlanta]

Interesting thought listening to this. KOC worked with Brown and Brown seems to have high praise of Flores and his D.

Flores is expected to be a candidate for HC in part because he and Poles know eaxh other from BC so if Bears hire Flores as HC does he keep Brown on as OC because KOC vouches for Brown to Flores and to keep some continuity for Caleb?

Problem with Flores is how poorly he handled Tua in Miami and the defense would need a drastic overhaul in the front 7, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing

 

[dbldrew]

Sir I asked you to post the 3 you are ralking about. Why are you afraid to do so?


You said his it went up 50% per PFF so I am using PFF because you said PFF dumbass. PFF has it at 13% ie 2.3 to 2.6 not 50% so you are wrong.

Remy I dont need to argue the extra 3 I'm talking about. YOU have proven me correct by using the PFF numbers as is. Me pretending that there is only 1 in the lions game still proves me correct and you wrong. I dont even need to argue for more TWP


Stop using the WRONG %, PFF fucked up their % either they have a error in whatever calculating algorithm they are using or they hire morons that cant do math.

I said it went up 50% PER GAME . He averaged 1 TWP PER GAME before Brown and that increased by 50% PER GAME after brown took over.

So like I said before "throwing to the wrong team" skyrocketed under Brown. And in typical Remy vortex fashion, you attempting to argue against me has actually proven me correct.

Think we can both agree that a 50% increase in TPI PER GAME is skyrocketing like I said

 

[remydat]

Problem with Flores is how poorly he handled Tua in Miami and the defense would need a drastic overhaul in the front 7, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing

Yes would obviously have to hear him articulate what he learned from the Tua situation but part of the reason Brown may work if he already has a good relationship with Caleb.

Not sure the front would need that drastic an overhaul. Would still play 4 Down lineman in most nickel situations and for base D you would need a proper nose tackle. Dexter, Billings and Walker would likely play 5 Tech and Sweat and Booker move to OLB. Edmunds and Edwards also pretty good blitzers.

 

[remydat]

Remy I dont need to argue the extra 3 I'm talking about. YOU have proven me correct by using the PFF numbers as is. Me pretending that there is only 1 in the lions game still proves me correct and you wrong. I dont even need to argue for more TWP


Stop using the WRONG %, PFF fucked up their % either they have a error in whatever calculating algorithm they are using or they hire morons that cant do math.

I said it went up 50% PER GAME . He averaged 1 TWP PER GAME before Brown and that increased by 50% PER GAME after brown took over.

So like I said before "throwing to the wrong team" skyrocketed under Brown. And in typical Remy vortex fashion, you attempting to argue against me has actually proven me correct.

Think we can both agree that a 50% increase in TPI PER GAME is skyrocketing like I said

Ok so you ran your mouth about these 3 plays but cant produce the evidence. Fail.

You said according to PFF. According to PFF it is 2.3% to 2.6%. You dont work for PFF so trying to correct them is irrelevant as we are discussing according to PFF.

And no dumbass we cant agree to that. We were talking percentages relative to number of plays in a game. If Caleb had 1 TWPs but only had 10 plays that is 10%. If he had 2 TWP but 30 plays that is 6.67%. Anyone not being dishonest like you kmows the 2nd scneario is better but your dumbass is trying to claim well his TWP per game went up 100% and pretending that is bad.

We know you are losing the argument because you cant produce the 3 plays you claim, you want to substitute your calculations for PFF's when you claimed you were judging per PFF, and after discussing TWP% per play this whole time you now want to switch to TWP per game. You are flailing worse than an octopus on dry land.

 

[remydat]

Back to the Flores and TB combo. If TB can have Caleb play well again a 2nd time against Flores that may go a long way in piquing Flores interest in not only working with Caleb but keeping Brown around Flores usually eats young QBs for breakfast.