Tory Taylor 46.3 avg, Trenton Gill 46.1 avg - What will Bears do with the extra 0.2 yards of field position?
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Net is more of a coverage team number, though.Net matters more than gross. Gill's career net is 39.4. Taylor's is 42.7. 31% of Gill's punts were inside the 20 while 46% of Taylor's were. 45.9% of Gill's punts are returned while only 25% of Taylor's are. Avg return yards are 10.9 vs 5.7 in Taylor's favor.
As for why this matters, see the below.
Study: Impact of Special Teams on NFL Success
By Robert Simpson and Peter Engler For NFL fans, the punter is one of the least popular players any given team. If he is out on the field, it means the offense has stalled. But special teams units can have a big impact on the outcome of a game – an impact that is often...www.the33rdteam.com
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Did I say I was mad? When?
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Not really. I just made an accurate statement about taylor>Gill, like I did with latu>other edges in draftAre you upset too?
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It can be both. That's where the film comes into play and why I added watching the games backed it up on Gill. Does the punter have good hang time and the coverage is just bad? Or does he have a trajectory with a low hang time so the coverage doesn't have time to get in place. Generally speaking, Gill would out kick his coverage leading to more returns, better returns, and hence a lower net.
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LOL. You’re still stewing over me saying it was debatable who was the best edge was? (Or whatever that was about)
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“Hopefully they will spit on it and shove it directly up your fat stupid ass.”
Is that your happy tone?
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So Gill has higher hang time, but out-kicks his coverage?
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When you look at that stat though on % returned that remy posted, it tells the bigger story though. Gill was outkicking his coverage leading to more returns which leads to a lower net. If he good hang time, then the coverage is in place leading to more fair catches, less returns, higher net.
Higher hang time also lets the coverage get in place to be able to down the ball inside the 20, 10, or 5 and you get less touchbacks. Less touchbacks also means higher net.
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If Fields could punt the ball inside the 20, he would have fetched that fourth round pick from the Steelers straight up
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No, Gill has a lower hang time. He basically literally kicks the ball lower. So, while he gets a decent distance with the 46 yards, it gets to the returner quicker. So, the returner has a cushion to catch and start a return before the coverage can get there. Hence, he is outkicking the coverage.
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You read but dont comprehend. If one guy has 45.9% of his punts returned then his net is likely to be lower than if a guy with only 25% of his punts returned all other things being equal.
Why? Because Gil has almost twice as many kicks where yards are being accumulated. Put another way 75% of the time Taylor's gross and net are equal because the return yards are 0.
It is clearly better for a team if a returner cant even return the ball.
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Did I say it was my happy tone? When?
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No, I'm just re-informing you I was right
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Do you have Taylor’s hangtime number? I can’t find it.
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Sure…. That’s why you tagged me immediately
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Wait, you're criticizing the player and haven't watched any of the tape?
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If he can keep a team with zero offense in contention with the help of a good defense, imagine what he could do with a shiny new offense, hardly ever seen in Chicago ... well, from the Bears sideline.
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I’m not criticizing. I’m a fan of the pick. I’m just laughing at all the anger here today
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So you’re not happy or mad. Was that your neutral tone?
