Trade deadline banter

[Southsidewentblind]

Southside, what you smoking?

What do you mean? Smoking is bad for you and you are a bad influence on society. It was before that play, that was one that he got to. Kris could catch that as well.

I'm telling you it is a statistical fact, LH fielders belong in LF. Heyward is a Premium LF, Somebody has to let coach know that Kris can Handle RF. You can begin to call them the Clean-up Kings of the Corner. They need to be rotated between the 4th spot in the batting order depending on the SP. We are losing on a legendary Duo. They are like Batman and Superman. They are like Chip and Dale. I have never seen a team that can have two that would be debatably unstoppable in comparison to the rest of the league? There pure power at the plate, The strength of their arms, their appeal to the crowd. They would be like salt(minus how bad it is for you) and pepper, they would be ever where you would eat, on everyone's mind when you eat. What else could you talk about but "Mommy, why don't we have outfielders like the Cubs on our team?" "Well, I just have to let you know honey, we just aren't as good as them." How can you miss on that opportunity? We need to call SI and tell them the news. Pay them to be on a cover. You will never see a pair like that for a long time, how evenly matched they are against each other. But yes LH have a natural disadvantage in RF. Check statistics. It isn't hard to make the transition. There is more Right side hitters anyway Heyward would be making even more great plays out in LF.

 

[CSF77]

What do you mean? Smoking is bad for you and you are a bad influence on society. It was before that play, that was one that he got to. Kris could catch that as well.

I'm telling you it is a statistical fact, LH fielders belong in LF. Heyward is a Premium LF, Somebody has to let coach know that Kris can Handle RF. You can begin to call them the Clean-up Kings of the Corner. They need to be rotated between the 4th spot in the batting order depending on the SP. We are losing on a legendary Duo. They are like Batman and Superman. They are like Chip and Dale. I have never seen a team that can have two that would be debatably unstoppable in comparison to the rest of the league? There pure power at the plate, The strength of their arms, their appeal to the crowd. They would be like salt(minus how bad it is for you) and pepper, they would be ever where you would eat, on everyone's mind when you eat. What else could you talk about but "Mommy, why don't we have outfielders like the Cubs on our team?" "Well, I just have to let you know honey, we just aren't as good as them." How can you miss on that opportunity? We need to call SI and tell them the news. Pay them to be on a cover. You will never see a pair like that for a long time, how evenly matched they are against each other. But yes LH have a natural disadvantage in RF. Check statistics. It isn't hard to make the transition. There is more Right side hitters anyway Heyward would be making even more great plays out in LF.

It is a term of are you high?

Honestly you really don't makes much sense.

Heyward is a top 5 RF defense in baseball. You don't put a untested 3B over him just because his glove is on the other hand.

What you post really seems like you boast about your weath of knowlege and experience to back non logical posts.

Try looking at fangraphs to see UZR stats on D and other peers to see how that player stacks up. Then use that factual info to create opinions. Vs saying his glove hand dictates. .

 

[beckdawg]

Try looking at fangraphs to see UZR stats on D and other peers to see how that player stacks up. Then use that factual info to create opinions. Vs saying his glove hand dictates. .

Or you know the fact he's won multiple gold gloves.

 

[CSF77]

Or you know the fact he's won multiple gold gloves.

GG sometimes is bias.

 

[TL1961]

What do you mean? Smoking is bad for you and you are a bad influence on society. It was before that play, that was one that he got to. Kris could catch that as well.

I'm telling you it is a statistical fact, LH fielders belong in LF. Heyward is a Premium LF, Somebody has to let coach know that Kris can Handle RF. You can begin to call them the Clean-up Kings of the Corner. They need to be rotated between the 4th spot in the batting order depending on the SP. We are losing on a legendary Duo. They are like Batman and Superman. They are like Chip and Dale. I have never seen a team that can have two that would be debatably unstoppable in comparison to the rest of the league? There pure power at the plate, The strength of their arms, their appeal to the crowd. They would be like salt(minus how bad it is for you) and pepper, they would be ever where you would eat, on everyone's mind when you eat. What else could you talk about but "Mommy, why don't we have outfielders like the Cubs on our team?" "Well, I just have to let you know honey, we just aren't as good as them." How can you miss on that opportunity? We need to call SI and tell them the news. Pay them to be on a cover. You will never see a pair like that for a long time, how evenly matched they are against each other. But yes LH have a natural disadvantage in RF. Check statistics. It isn't hard to make the transition. There is more Right side hitters anyway Heyward would be making even more great plays out in LF.

This is so utterly ridiculous, it's not worth responding.

 

[TL1961]

Glove hand to detrrmine OF position is silly enough, but even if you did use that as a factor, he has it backward.

More balls are hit to the gaps than down the line.

Plus he neglects that the best arms belong in RF due to longer throw to 3rd. Heyward has a great arm, to go along with being great coming in on balls, going back on balls, chasing down balls laterally.....

For all the nonsensical overreactions and crazy ass ideas thrown around (Schwarber should catch), this one takes the cake. Move our best defender, and one of the best OF in the game (quick, name one who is better!) to the OF position that has the least impact defensively. Good plan.

 

[Diehardfan]

This is so utterly ridiculous, it's not worth responding.

He's a kid....

 

[TL1961]

GG sometimes is bias.

Are you suggesting Heyward won a GG that was undeserved?

 

[TL1961]

He's a kid....

Good. If not, it would be scary.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

He's a kid....

Or Rask's bong buddy. :smoke:

 

[CSF77]

Are you suggesting Heyward won a GG that was undeserved?

Voters tend to be bias

 

[CSF77]

So what would it cost to get Sonny Gray?

Going with what the Cubs would sell. And have more upside than roster filler or BP arm:

Jeimer Candelario, Starts right away.

Oscar De La Cruz Is injured lowering his value. His medicals will dictate if he is a selling chip or not.
(Sub for De La Cruz if not a good chip): Jose Albertos He is the 2nd best arm in the system right now.

Going with upside (guys on the MLB roster have MLB time spent and that lowers their value to a small market team like Oak)

D.J. Wilson at SB and a prototypical CF. Could become a impact player with his tool set.

Aramis Ademan at Eug. Best SS glove in the system. Solid LH contact hitter that walks more than he SO's very advanced player for his age.

Now those 4 make a strong offer.

honestly any of those 4 can break out and hit the top 100.

Alzolay is a sexy pick right now but I believe he is a 3/4 pitcher right now. He would be a good 2nd arm in a pick up but I feel that Wilson and Ademan have more impact potential.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

So what would it cost to get Sonny Gray?

Going with what the Cubs would sell. And have more upside than roster filler or BP arm:

Jeimer Candelario, Starts right away.

Oscar De La Cruz Is injured lowering his value. His medicals will dictate if he is a selling chip or not.
(Sub for De La Cruz if not a good chip): Jose Albertos He is the 2nd best arm in the system right now.

Going with upside (guys on the MLB roster have MLB time spent and that lowers their value to a small market team like Oak)

D.J. Wilson at SB and a prototypical CF. Could become a impact player with his tool set.

Aramis Ademan at Eug. Best SS glove in the system. Solid LH contact hitter that walks more than he SO's very advanced player for his age.

Now those 4 make a strong offer.

honestly any of those 4 can break out and hit the top 100.

Alzolay is a sexy pick right now but I believe he is a 3/4 pitcher right now. He would be a good 2nd arm in a pick up but I feel that Wilson and Ademan have more impact potential.

No, Beane hasn't had a competitive opportunity in awhile and they've got some talent that with a few additions could open up a contending year for them sooner rather than later. I'm been hearing somewhat informed speculation that it would take Russell or Schwarber. Houston has apparently said no to Bregman for Gray but if that gets done I expect it to be Bregman anyway in the end. I just don't know that Beane wants 18-20 year olds.

 

[CSF77]

No, Beane hasn't had a competitive opportunity in awhile and they've got some talent that with a few additions could open up a contending year for them sooner rather than later. I'm been hearing somewhat informed speculation that it would take Russell or Schwarber. Houston has apparently said no to Bregman for Gray but if that gets done I expect it to be Bregman anyway in the end. I just don't know that Beane wants 18-20 year olds.

Cubs have more potential players vs ranked right now. Add to it I'm not thinking that Theo believes subtracting talent from the 25 to add to the 25 is any net bonus. Long term you are sacrificing O to get pitching.

That is why I posted what they are willing to give up. I really doubt they would consider it.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Cubs have more potential players vs ranked right now. Add to it I'm not thinking that Theo believes subtracting talent from the 25 to add to the 25 is any net bonus. Long term you are sacrificing O to get pitching.

That is why I posted what they are willing to give up. I really doubt they would consider it.

I wouldn't. Just saying what I think gets it done extrapolating from conversation about Bregman.

 

[CSF77]

3B they have Chapman. He was ranked #4 for them. He is on the team. SS Franklin Barreto. He is on the Cusp and got a taste. He is their top prospect. Both should cement the left side of the diamond for years to come. Marcus Semien you can add to that mix. Which just puts the better SS at SS and the lesser at 2B.

They have Blackburn (Ex-cub prospect) and Daniel Gossett in the rotation. Also have Sean Manaea as staff ace. A.J. Puk and Grant Holmes in AA. Both are top 100 prospects.

Honestly they could swap the whole OF. If you were looking at it from a current needs. I don't see the match up to be honest.

Sad

 

[chibears55]

If the Cubs were to deal off their 25, I'd prefer them to deal for marcus stroman...
But
I don't think they'll do that now, I think they'll wait til off season to deal guys from 25..
But if they do, I think the only one they might move is Almora..

If their looking to add another starter, which I think they will but might depend on what Lackey does in his next start. I think their more interested in Fullmer then Gray..


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[TL1961]

Voters tend to be bias

You didn't answer the question.

Do you believe Heyward won a Gold Glove that was undeserved?

 

[CSF77]

You didn't answer the question.

Do you believe Heyward won a Gold Glove that was undeserved?

I'm thinking that you are reading too much into it. Do I believe he deserved it? Yes. But there are too many given GG's with out earning it. That is why I look at stats vs badges.

 

[CSF77]

If the Cubs were to deal off their 25, I'd prefer them to deal for marcus stroman...
But
I don't think they'll do that now, I think they'll wait til off season to deal guys from 25..
But if they do, I think the only one they might move is Almora..

If their looking to add another starter, which I think they will but might depend on what Lackey does in his next start. I think their more interested in Fullmer then Gray..


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I would want Gray just to block the Crew from him. If the stroes get him is solves the same issue.

I believe they should sign Cobb. He has been on pace with Archer this year.Now the real difference between the 2 is in SO/9. That is why he wont command the same pay day that Jake will. Career wise he is at 7.31. So he is not going to command a huge pay day. But he does make a good RH to split up Jon and Q. Fastball wise he sits in the low 90's.

As far as a trade in the off season. "The Cubs lack blue chips.