Updates to the Kane situation

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Gustavus Adolphus

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What does anyone know about the cab driver? Did he threaten them first? Is this guy a total asshole that was cursing them out/challenging them? No one knows/talks about that. Maybe the legalities of the case shouldn't be taken off of Wikipedia and taken as the entire facts of the case?
What if the cabbie wanted to rape Kane?
 

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So what are you getting at here, Shart? Do you want me to believe that Kane is some model citizen that's never done anything wrong? That his reputation is falsely comprised of inaccurate narratives?

Kane has to be the unluckiest guy in the world.
 

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I've said it before, I could care less how much a player drinks in the off season, or how much a person goes to church and is a bible thumper. Once he steps on the ice, I enjoy watching him play. If he's a criminal - the court of law will put him in jail.
Tell that to the guy writing the checks.
 

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Kane said that the fans cheering him at camp today gave him chills.

That could have been the gonorrhea. See when you rape you are also at risk.
 

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Never said he was ever a model citizen. And no athlete should ever be expected to be a role model. The cab incident or having a few beers has nothing to do with being accused of rape. If he's a rapist - he'll be charged with rape. But he hasn't been.

He's a hockey player, that's it. And if he's innocent of these charges - he's been dragged through the mud and none of this black mark will ever go away.

Have you ever known anyone falsely accused of something like this? It's bullshit

I've said it before, I could care less how much a player drinks in the off season, or how much a person goes to church and is a bible thumper. Once he steps on the ice, I enjoy watching him play. If he's a criminal - the court of law will put him in jail.

Did you cheer for Roenick, Chelios, Suter, Smith, Belfour, Probert? You'd be extremely hypocritical if you ever did.

I agree with about 95 percent of this. As long as athletes aren't doing things that affect their athletic performance and not beating women/kids/whoever, they can do whatever the **** they want, IMO.

We've done the false rape accusation discussion 239840723498 times earlier in this thread. Not going back down that road again.
 

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Unless there is a video tape or a confession there is practically 0 chance Kane would be convicted. His money will buy him the best possible lawyers. If OJ could get off decapitating 2 people with the mountain of evidence that was against him, a high priced defense team would not have to even break a sweat to beat a simple he said/she said affair. If he was poor he'd have to worry. People have been sent to death row on nothing but the testimony of a single witness.
 

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Unless there is a video tape or a confession there is practically 0 chance Kane would be convicted. His money will buy him the best possible lawyers. If OJ could get off decapitating 2 people with the mountain of evidence that was against him, a high priced defense team would not have to even break a sweat to beat a simple he said/she said affair. If he was poor he'd have to worry. People have been sent to death row on nothing but the testimony of a single witness.

Not sure you understand the OJ Simpson case...

That mountain of evidence had to be thrown out of court and not used since the police and co couldn't do their jobs correctly and get warrants or collect evidence correctly without the possibility of mishandling it. Can't get charges to stick if the evidence is gone.


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Not sure you understand the OJ Simpson case...

That mountain of evidence had to be thrown out of court and not used since the police and co couldn't do their jobs correctly and get warrants or collect evidence correctly without the possibility of mishandling it. Can't get charges to stick if the evidence is gone.


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Also, you gotta appreciate the complete lack of logic. Hey man, OJ got away with murder. THEREFORE, Kane can't be convicted of rape!

Ipso facto! Post hoc ergo propter hoc, bitches!
 

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When it comes to the Kane situation there are several parts that matter.

1) There is a 92-98% chance that Kane raped the girl, or the girl at least believes she was raped. Anytime a woman submits to a rape kit, which is incredibly invasive, the stats show that the accusations are generally true.

2) Even with the said above stat, I am not claiming he is guilty, BUT!!!! He has been in several other incidents like this before (obviously not as severe). So history just is not on his side.

3) With that above history, it is more than reasonable for any business to consider if it is going to be a huge risk keeping him. Sure when he is playing he is a top 5 player in the NHL. But you have to ask yourself as a GM, will he be playing? The answer to that is very difficult to predict. And not making the right choice or waiting to long can hamstring this team cap wise for a long time.

4) All of this can go away, because history has shown it likely will (with some settlement), and Kane and the Hawks will go about their merry way.

5) If this does happen again, then it means there is a massive PR hit for the Hawks, they are saddled with a massive contract, and the team has to deal with huge distractions that will likely derail any season and any Cup attempt.
 

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And here are 100% facts
- Police investigated an alleged sexual assault at Kane's house
- They still don't have enough evidence to charge him with anything
-It was scheduled to go to a Grand Jury, but has been delayed

There are the actual facts. Everything else is assumptions
 
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