Updates to the Kane situation

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And here are 100% facts
- Police investigated an alleged sexual assault at Kane's house
- They still don't have enough evidence to charge him with anything
-It was scheduled to go to a Grand Jury, but has been delayed

There are the actual facts. Everything else is assumptions

Geez, Shart, you still sharting yourself over this? ...
 

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When it comes to the Kane situation there are several parts that matter.

1) There is a 92-98% chance that Kane raped the girl, or the girl at least believes she was raped. Anytime a woman submits to a rape kit, which is incredibly invasive, the stats show that the accusations are generally true.

2) Even with the said above stat, I am not claiming he is guilty, BUT!!!! He has been in several other incidents like this before (obviously not as severe). So history just is not on his side.

3) With that above history, it is more than reasonable for any business to consider if it is going to be a huge risk keeping him. Sure when he is playing he is a top 5 player in the NHL. But you have to ask yourself as a GM, will he be playing? The answer to that is very difficult to predict. And not making the right choice or waiting to long can hamstring this team cap wise for a long time.

4) All of this can go away, because history has shown it likely will (with some settlement), and Kane and the Hawks will go about their merry way.

5) If this does happen again, then it means there is a massive PR hit for the Hawks, they are saddled with a massive contract, and the team has to deal with huge distractions that will likely derail any season and any Cup attempt.

Where have you been? For one, we have been through this. Typical statistics from the general public do not equate the much different sample of rich and famous. Quit applying them. Also...quit applying them like this is gambling.

He either did it, or he didn't. Applying a 92% guilt to a man is unfair, in your head you are repeating that he probably did it. You guys that don't know how to use and apply statistics probably should stay out of this, and also not gamble. Good luck.
 

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Well it's obvious that The Buffalo News still is doing everything it can to make sure that Kane is convicted of a crime.

Oh, wait ...

DNA test results spur questions in Kane case

DNA evidence does not confirm a woman’s allegations that Patrick Kane raped her, four sources familiar with the case told The Buffalo News.

DNA tests taken from a rape kit conducted on the woman showed no trace of Kane’s DNA was found in the woman’s genital area or on her undergarments.

The lack of that DNA evidence does not necessarily mean a sexual assault did not occur, legal experts say, and the evidence involved in this type of investigation typically consists of more than just DNA. The investigation continues, and Kane has not been charged with any crime.

As the story said, this does not confirm that a rape did not happen, but it would certainly raise some questions about the accusations against Kane. Guess we'll see what news comes out next.
 

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When it comes to the Kane situation there are several parts that matter.

1) There is a 92-98% chance that Kane raped the girl, or the girl at least believes she was raped. Anytime a woman submits to a rape kit, which is incredibly invasive, the stats show that the accusations are generally true.

Great, this completely disproven stat rears its ugly head again. You know what they say - a lie gets around the world twice before the truth gets its shoes tied.
 

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When it comes to the Kane situation there are several parts that matter.

1) There is a 92-98% chance that Kane raped the girl, or the girl at least believes she was raped. Anytime a woman submits to a rape kit, which is incredibly invasive, the stats show that the accusations are generally true.

Great, this completely disproven stat rears its ugly head again. You know what they say - a lie gets around the world twice before the truth gets its shoes tied.
 

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Well it's obvious that The Buffalo News still is doing everything it can to make sure that Kane is convicted of a crime.

Oh, wait ...

DNA test results spur questions in Kane case



As the story said, this does not confirm that a rape did not happen, but it would certainly raise some questions about the accusations against Kane. Guess we'll see what news comes out next.

Raise some questions? She claimed she was "overpowered and raped", yet no semen or DNA was found. None. If she showed signs of intercourse that would have been enough to get Kane arrested the next day.

The BN is backpedaling hard.

I'm guessing the alleged "settlement talks" was the prosecution's attempt to get him to plea to a lesser assault charge, and he told them to piss up a rope.
 

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Raise some questions? She claimed she was "overpowered and raped", yet no semen or DNA was found. None. If she showed signs of intercourse that would have been enough to get Kane arrested the next day.

The BN is backpedaling hard.

I'm guessing the alleged "settlement talks" was the prosecution's attempt to get him to plea to a lesser assault charge, and he told them to piss up a rope.

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Raise some questions? She claimed she was "overpowered and raped", yet no semen or DNA was found. None. If she showed signs of intercourse that would have been enough to get Kane arrested the next day.

The BN is backpedaling hard.

I'm guessing the alleged "settlement talks" was the prosecution's attempt to get him to plea to a lesser assault charge, and he told them to piss up a rope.

Exactly

Now wait for the holier than thou moral police to begin the...."well he shouldn't even put himself in that situation...so the Hawks should trade him"...waaaaaahhh

Yeah...a mid-twenty single millionaire shouldn't be having people over his house in the off season

I said weeks ago....there wasn't even any penetration. There was no rape. But all the damage was done to Kane and the cry baby moral police wants to convict him for doing nothing
 

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Rape kit negative. winking at you Ares.
 

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What the Buffalo News just reported does not confirm a single fucking thing. But go ahead and keep assuming that you know everything that happened there. I still haven't heard enough one way or the other.
 

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What the Buffalo News just reported does not confirm a single fucking thing. But go ahead and keep assuming that you know everything that happened there. I still haven't heard enough one way or the other.

A negative rape kit is a pretty big step towards exonerating Kane. Don't act like it's nothing.
 

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It's funny how the same people who were bashing the BN for their early reporting are now taking their word like the gospel. Again, I'll wait till a legal decision has been made.

If he's exonerated because he's innocent then great, this is in the past, she should be in legal trouble and Kane goes after whoever for slander.

If he's not exonerated and is found guilty give him the book and get him out of town, and the girl some help.


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What is BN and why were people hating and calling out BN two weeks ago but now praising BN?
 
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