Video Game Thread

[MassHavoc]

WOW... boom... SONY WINS</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

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Remember when you said your werent a fanboi....you lied</p>
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No fan boy here... I was going into it totally open minded... but for 100 less, complete focus on games and fucking no drm restrictions and always on... go **** yourself.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND PS+ carries over to PS4... with all benefits... suck a dick</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

OOOOONNLLY thing I just saw that I don't like is it looks like they are forcing PSN+ in order to play online multiplayer. But they said they are giving driveclub free to psn+ members.</p>

 

[supraman]

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No fan boy here... I was going into it totally open minded... but for 100 less, complete focus on games and fucking no drm restrictions and always on... go **** yourself.</p>
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I'll tell you what. Sony is genius for strolling out the Japanese guys to do the speeches because their awkwardness in speaking is passed off as a translation thing and almost cute because they are trying so hard.</p>
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I'm sorry I can't understand you with your mouth full of sony's ****</p>

 

[supraman]

Hey serious question can the PS3 stream media files from a networked PC?</p>

 

[supraman]

I tend to trust Cnet opinions and basically says the PS4 is better in some areas where the Xbox One is better in others. I dig that the PS4 is cheaper but I won't lie I hate the left thumbstick layout on PS controllers, it is uncomfortable for me but that's minor crap. I love and hate that the PS3 and (pretty sure) the PS4 use bluetooth headsets, I like that any headset will do (unlike having to use headsets just for the 360) but I hate dicking with bluetooth.</p>


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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-21539_7-57588650-10391702/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4/</p>


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What was said earlier is true the PS4 seems to focus more on just being a gaming consoles and little else while Microsoft is trying to make the Xbox One (jesus I cant get over how dumb that name is) an entertainment center. Hell Microsoft has been trying to do that with computers since XP.</p>


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I think the entertainment center idea is neat however it isn't a selling point for me. Especially when my console will be in my bedroom and where it is placed there could be issues with placement and/or cord length of the kinect to function properly so all that hand gesture crap might not work too damn well with me.</p>


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Right now neither console really wows me. Not really a fan of the PS but the cost of the Xbox is too high. both consoles need to learn to interface with PCs so I can just use my PC and be done with consoles.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

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Hey serious question can the PS3 stream media files from a networked PC?</p>
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I don't know, I've never tried, but I'm sure someone somewhere does.</p>


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I've had no problem with bluetooth. And I'm sure there are aftermarket handsets that fit your taste if you are really weary of it. PS4 streams games to the Vita, maybe someone will crack it to stream to a PC. haha.</p>


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PS4 is consumer driven</p>


Xbone is Publisher driven.</p>


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That's what this comes down to, they went in totally different directions with their methodology.</p>


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MS went the direction of put as much in their system as possible to give developers and publishers as much to play with as possible in order to create something that will attract people to the system who aren't gamers.</p>


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Sony went with a system built on giving gamers the most accessibility to their games as possible in hopes of luring more people to their system and thus bringing the developers to make more content. Thus bringing more non-gamers into the system.</p>


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MS wants to bring non-gamers in through bells and whistles on their system that the non-gamers already use and convert them into gamers. Sony wants to develop the best content that will interest non gamers in someway in order to bring them into the system.</p>


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I was completely open going into this. I thought this might be the system that brings me over to XBOX because I'm tired of having none of my best friends on it. But after all the little things that MS has done to chip away at consumer rights and privacy, there is no way I'd switch. Not to mention that PS+ is light years ahead of Xbox gold right now and they aren't going to catch up by offering Fable III ACII or Halo III. Fable is nice, but the other two... really? I get XCOM Enemy unknown today for free. I got sleeping dogs a few weeks ago and haven't even played it and Dues Ex Revolution last week. Not to mention Spec Ops is still in the que for when I have time. (Fucking ME Trilogy)</p>


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I don't think the Xbone is as bad as the interwebs makes it out to be, but MS really only shot themselves in the foot with their horrible launch and their continued incompetency yesterday.</p>


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Yesterday was a clear message. Xbone is a Multimedia Machine. PS4 is a gaming console. Neither is wrong, and they both have their own specific markets and are taking very big gambles. I think that they are so vastly different that only one of them is going to win, and the next gen of consoles will look like which ever one does.</p>


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And lastly... MS is spending a boatload of money yes, but how much of that is on the non-gaming parts of the Xbone, where as Sony is spending the same amount and almost all of it is game focused. It shows from the game lineup that was rolled out. MS seems to be going almost exclusively BRO with their big name titles. Other than Ryse I'm not sure they showed and blockbuster AAA that wasn't an FPS shooter? But I am probably missing one. And Ryse was really just a Halo with swords. That game has been around so long it was originally a Kinnect only game. It looked cool at first till the demo went on and on and showed nothing but the same.</p>


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I was most surprised at the Two Souls demo believe it or not, everything I had seen previously to this did not make me thing that was the game that was coming out at all. I think they have more surprises coming for that one.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

I should say that the one thing sony has fucked up is forcing people to go to PS+ for online multiplayer... Not a big deal to me because I'm a + already and it's more than worth it. But that may be a turn off for some. But you will still have full single player functionality without it. And you will still be able to go online from what I understand and use the other features. Just no multiplayer.</p>

 

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Hey serious question can the PS3 stream media files from a networked PC?</p>
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Yes, just have to enable it on the PS3. Then use the Media Sharing from Media Player. I am not a Winodws fan, but Win 7 made this stuff very easy.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

A huge selling point in the past with consoles was the exclusive titles. This really doesnt exist anymore. Even for games that would be exclusive, they are not games that I play. Well, Gears of War series, but that is done.</p>


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So it really comes down the hardware and "experience" for the end user.</p>


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I prefered Xbox for gaming because parties were easier, I liked the controller and interface better, and PS3 was trying to be what Xbox One wants to be: That all-in-one media box.</p>


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The PS+ is a non-issue for me since Xbox has charged for their service for since the very beginning. And i actually dont mind the cost as it requires the company to maintain the service.</p>


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If i had to decide at this point, I have to say PS4 is still the one I will go with.</p>


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Thankfully, I dont have to decide at this point.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

I find it very interesting that PS4 looks like it's going to launch after Xbone... like.. months. They say holiday season but the preorder lists it at 12/31.... If something happens it could be pushed to next year? I hope not. And not because I'm going to get one, but because I want the gen to start ASAP so we can get to price drops.</p>


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I really worry about the direct of PS+ thought. Because they have been getting some really really great games because the model is offer them great content they'll take it and the content will grow to others. So right now they give plus a game, members love it, not members get it. And also DLC is bought. But if everyone is going to be PS+ already, most people are going to already get the stuff free and the aftermarket shortens. So the push for quality content is not going to be as great. You don't have to appease members to stay a member anymore just for content. They are going to want to play multiplayer so you have them hooked. It's why XBL doesn't have to try so hard with Xbox content because people are going to be gold whether you have the content or not.</p>

 

[supraman]

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I should say that the one thing sony has fucked up is forcing people to go to PS+ for online multiplayer... Not a big deal to me because I'm a + already and it's more than worth it. But that may be a turn off for some. But you will still have full single player functionality without it. And you will still be able to go online from what I understand and use the other features. Just no multiplayer.</p>
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Yeah I think Sony lost a major advantage with charging for multiplayer. That was a significant advantage over the Xbox. However Xbox Live did make it easy. I like the Xbox Live service it is pretty straight forward but still has some weird issues that coming for a PC gamer that just seem dumb. The Xbox parties sometimes just explode and kick everyone out for no reason, some xboxes cannot connect to other xboxes unless someone else is in the party. Just stupid shit like that that I never see on a PC.</p>


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As for the direction MS went like I said it has been their goal since the inception of the Windows Media Center</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

Also... by the way. PS4 is region free. I assume the Xbone is too, but I have no idea. I actually doubt it with the DRM they are putting in.</p>

 

[supraman]

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Yes, just have to enable it on the PS3. Then use the Media Sharing from Media Player. I am not a Winodws fan, but Win 7 made this stuff very easy.</p>
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Okay that at least makes me willing to consider the PS4 (assuming it still has that feature) I *ahem* acquire videos via the PC and it is great watching them on the Xbox.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

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Yeah I think Sony lost a major advantage with charging for multiplayer. That was a significant advantage over the Xbox. However Xbox Live did make it easy. I like the Xbox Live service it is pretty straight forward but still has some weird issues that coming for a PC gamer that just seem dumb. The Xbox parties sometimes just explode and kick everyone out for no reason, some xboxes cannot connect to other xboxes unless someone else is in the party. Just stupid shit like that that I never see on a PC.</p>


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As for the direction MS went like I said it has been their goal since the inception of the Windows Media Center</p>
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I don't even know what this means. I've never seen anything like that.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

And by the way, in case no one heard. Mirror's Edge 2 is coming. I haven't played the first, and don't know much but it seems like a big deal to hard core types.</p>

 

[supraman]

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I don't even know what this means. I've never seen anything like that.</p>
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An xbox party is a private "chat room" for voice comms for up to 8 people. It is the primary way people get together and play games since its inception about 2-3 years ago.</p>


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Ya know what I hate as a PC gamer is the lack of data about whats going on with the consoles. What is my DL speed? Why is it a ***** to find patch notes. Why cant I read them on the console as the patch DLs. Why cant I DL shit in the background (PS3 might do this, cant remember) while I play games. If a PC gaming rig didnt cost 1.5-2k these consoles would never sell. PCs are just far superior in everything.</p>

 

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PS3 you can do a connection test that tells you up and download as well as a couple other random things like NAT.</p>


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Patch notes are always on the same site for the system, unless you mean for games which you'll have to find individually. But in the last year they've gone to a system of telling you what the patch updates before you select yes.</p>


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You can download shit in the background but it doesn't really work. When playing games (I don't know if it's all or just blue ray based or what) you can't download in the background. This may be only when that game is connected to a server for use with the game. IE ME connects to EA, Borderlands connects to Gearbox... when you are playing these games it doesn't download in the background but it cues it to download whenever it's available and starts and stops automatically. You can argue it all you want, because yes, you usually have more option on PC but they are also more of a pain in the ass. Don't pretend like there aren't constant updates, to both hardware and software. The average person just can't be a PC gamer. In order to really take advantage of it you have to do modding and that can get complicated, I've tried it. The average gamer just wants to put the game in, pick up the joystick and play. PC gaming experience is better for hard core gamers because it is a richer more immerse gaming experience. But not necessarily the best and most easy to access to the broader community. I have found on every big time game that I've wanted to run there has always been an issue. Whether I needed to upgrade hardware, Update drivers, or needed third party shit to do the mod stuff. It's just not as simple as popping in a disc and playing. I'll take the trade off. I like PC gaming but it's just time and money I don't have.</p>

 

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If only Sony would change their joystick layout to offset like the Xbox does and this would be a no brainer. Holding that controller is so awkward for me.</p>