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What's the big deal about the DLNA? And I don't think I've ever used an MP3 on my PS3 but I do use their music service which is very good, but mostly because I got it for $12, don't know that I would pay much more. I don't listen to music while I game and if I did it's probably through a separate device. My bluetooth headset lets me connect my phone to it while I game.</p>
 

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What's the big deal about the DLNA? And I don't think I've ever used an MP3 on my PS3 but I do use their music service which is very good, but mostly because I got it for $12, don't know that I would pay much more. I don't listen to music while I game and if I did it's probably through a separate device. My bluetooth headset lets me connect my phone to it while I game.</p>
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I can acquire movies via a "non conventional" way and then stream them via DLNA to my console and watch them on my TV</p>
 

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What's the big deal about the DLNA? And I don't think I've ever used an MP3 on my PS3 but I do use their music service which is very good, but mostly because I got it for $12, don't know that I would pay much more. I don't listen to music while I game and if I did it's probably through a separate device. My bluetooth headset lets me connect my phone to it while I game.</p>
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DLNA is a standard to allow devices and media to talk to each other. Lets say I had 10 terabytes of movies that I am currently using my PC for, stream it so I can watch on my TV through the PS3. That functionality will be gone. </p>


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However, I do think that this will come with other patches. DLNA is sponsored by Sony for Herb's sake. The MP3? Maybe it is to pitch their Music Unlimited service (which i also pay for but it is the weakest of any music service I have used, to include the free pandora). MP3 could have something relating to license fees and crap too.</p>


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It isnt a big deal for me either because while I can stream from my PC to PS3, it isnt common for me at all. But i can see where it may impact others. </p>
 

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Sounds like with the outcry it caused yesterday it's already with the dev team to make it happen.
 

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Sounds like with the outcry it caused yesterday it's already with the dev team to make it happen.</p>
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Not surprised there either. Both teams know this is the last console hurrah and Sony is not about to take a cost hit like like did with PS3. </p>
 

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My brother and a few buddies and I have been playing Payday 2 for 360. I can honestly say the game is a definite buy for any platform if you have friends who play the game. If you plan on just playing solo offline, the AI is practically useless outside of shooting whatever form of police come at you, but opening safes or anything of further value they just don't do.
 

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Not surprised there either. Both teams know this is the last console hurrah and Sony is not about to take a cost hit like like did with PS3. </p>
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You really think this gen is the end of consoles as we know it?  I keep thinking, these consoles have barely been around. But if I recall the 360 came out in the fall of 05.  They have been around the better part of a decade and thats weird to think about.  I was 23 I think when the 360 came out i am 31 now.</p>
 

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What's the big deal about the DLNA? And I don't think I've ever used an MP3 on my PS3 but I do use their music service which is very good, but mostly because I got it for $12, don't know that I would pay much more. I don't listen to music while I game and if I did it's probably through a separate device. My bluetooth headset lets me connect my phone to it while I game.</p>
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A prime example of DLNA with respect to the NHL series is the ability to use custom music.  When I do my BAP or LTL I do have "custom playlists" that will play certain songs for certain events (I.E. using local band Neutral Boy's song "Dick to Cry On" whenever the opposing team gets a penalty).  For the 360, if you have a PC connection it can read the playlists you specify from the PC that you keep your music on. I'm sure thr PS3 has something similar.</p>


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Remove that ability and a good customization aspect of the franchise is lost.  Call me cheeze but I like skating onto the "Chicago stadium" ice in my BAP to either "Here come the 'hawks" or "Keys to the City", and not some pop song that sounds Justin Bieber ripped off Corey...err...Katy Perry.</p>


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You really think this gen is the end of consoles as we know it?  I keep thinking, these consoles have barely been around. But if I recall the 360 came out in the fall of 05.  They have been around the better part of a decade and thats weird to think about.  I was 23 I think when the 360 came out i am 31 now.</p>
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Agreed.  Console gaming has the same chance of going away as PC gaming--it may be relegated to a niche market what with the great unwashed falling in love with contrite bullshit such as Candy Crush Saga and the ability for it to be mobile on their phones, but it's not going away.  Otherwise board games would be long dead by now.</p>
 

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You really think this gen is the end of consoles as we know it?  I keep thinking, these consoles have barely been around. But if I recall the 360 came out in the fall of 05.  They have been around the better part of a decade and thats weird to think about.  I was 23 I think when the 360 came out i am 31 now.</p>
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I say that only because in 10 years, technology will move with smart phones and tvs and youtubes and what-nots. I will say that from a graphics standpoint, law of diminishing returns is in effect. </p>


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I do think this is the last shot of console where these two parties aim for 100mill units sold...</p>
 

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Hmm... guess I didn't really realize that people cared about streaming to the PS3 that much. So many of my devices do what I would stream to the PC that I don't bother. Do you guys really think Sony will change their mind on this? This is my main question. XBOX heard their fans and cried out and then got backlash for changing to fit their fans. Will Sony do the same knowing the are damned if they do damned if they don't? This is different to me though because I don't think anyone will mind if they change this, while what MS changed some people actually wanted to see.</p>


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You don't like the Sony unlimited service? What don't you like? I'm not sure I would like it if I had to pay more than what I did for it, but overall I like it. I do not however like that the apps vary so largely in functionality across devices. I can do things on the computer I can't do on my phone and on my phone I can't do on the PS3. One of my main problems with the service is that you can't select a playlist you've put together and put it on shuffle. Only your entire library, unless you are on the web based app.</p>
 

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A prime example of DLNA with respect to the NHL series is the ability to use custom music.  When I do my BAP or LTL I do have "custom playlists" that will play certain songs for certain events (I.E. using local band Neutral Boy's song "Dick to Cry On" whenever the opposing team gets a penalty).  For the 360, if you have a PC connection it can read the playlists you specify from the PC that you keep your music on. I'm sure thr PS3 has something similar.</p>


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Remove that ability and a good customization aspect of the franchise is lost.  Call me cheeze but I like skating onto the "Chicago stadium" ice in my BAP to either "Here come the 'hawks" or "Keys to the City", and not some pop song that sounds Justin Bieber ripped off Corey...err...Katy Perry.</p>


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I do the exact same thing. I couldn't imagine just hearing the same 8 or 10 crappy songs that came with the game over and over.</p>
 

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Hmm... guess I didn't really realize that people cared about streaming to the PS3 that much. So many of my devices do what I would stream to the PC that I don't bother. Do you guys really think Sony will change their mind on this? This is my main question. XBOX heard their fans and cried out and then got backlash for changing to fit their fans. Will Sony do the same knowing the are damned if they do damned if they don't? This is different to me though because I don't think anyone will mind if they change this, while what MS changed some people actually wanted to see.</p>


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You don't like the Sony unlimited service? What don't you like? I'm not sure I would like it if I had to pay more than what I did for it, but overall I like it. I do not however like that the apps vary so largely in functionality across devices. I can do things on the computer I can't do on my phone and on my phone I can't do on the PS3. One of my main problems with the service is that you can't select a playlist you've put together and put it on shuffle. Only your entire library, unless you are on the web based app.</p>
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I think that if Sony can change their mind, they will. Sony will work their asses off to ensure they dont run into production and sales issues. </p>


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If Sony limiting DLNA and MP3 because it wont be ready for the release? That is fine. But not ever? Like if they are refusing mp3 in the idea to "make" people buy sony music? I will never use Sony music again. </p>


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I dont hate the Sony Music, but it is WOEFULLY lack on their catalogue compared to other services that you can even run for free. But i am also one who pays for music and media. </p>
 

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Hmm... guess I didn't really realize that people cared about streaming to the PS3 that much. So many of my devices do what I would stream to the PC that I don't bother. Do you guys really think Sony will change their mind on this? This is my main question. XBOX heard their fans and cried out and then got backlash for changing to fit their fans. Will Sony do the same knowing the are damned if they do damned if they don't? This is different to me though because I don't think anyone will mind if they change this, while what MS changed some people actually wanted to see.</p>


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You don't like the Sony unlimited service? What don't you like? I'm not sure I would like it if I had to pay more than what I did for it, but overall I like it. I do not however like that the apps vary so largely in functionality across devices. I can do things on the computer I can't do on my phone and on my phone I can't do on the PS3. One of my main problems with the service is that you can't select a playlist you've put together and put it on shuffle. Only your entire library, unless you are on the web based app.</p>
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Honestly, I didn't give Microsoft any backlash for reversing their decision...I chose to not go Xbox because they initially thought of turning the Xbone into a surveillance sysyem and even reversing the decision left a bad taste in my mouth...That and since they've started calling it the "Xbone" i refuse to be an "Xboner".  Bonerfart maybe, but not an Xboner. :)</p>


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Seriously it depends on what you're going to use it for.  I have the Wii and the Xbox 360 for a single reason each--to play a franchise I love that appears either (a) only on their system (Zelda) or (b) because NHL is not on my chosen system (pc) and it was an arbitrary decision based on what most of my friends have since XBL and PSN are not interoperable. </p>


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Essentially, the next gen consoles I get will invariably be a WiiU when the next Zelda comes out and is affordable, and whichever everyone else gets when the NHL series drops onto the next gen consoles. Everything else I play and want to play is on the PC and on my HTPC it runs better, smoother, and faster than the console versions.</p>
 

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I think that if Sony can change their mind, they will. Sony will work their asses off to ensure they dont run into production and sales issues. </p>


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If Sony limiting DLNA and MP3 because it wont be ready for the release? That is fine. But not ever? Like if they are refusing mp3 in the idea to "make" people buy sony music? I will never use Sony music again. </p>


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I dont hate the Sony Music, but it is WOEFULLY lack on their catalogue compared to other services that you can even run for free. But i am also one who pays for music and media. </p>
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In addition, when my wife and I were dating she fell in love with the song "Bullet-Proof Skin" by The Institute, which was in NHL 07 I believe.  So, I went to Amazon and bought it for her and keep it as part of the "menu music" in my NHL games (it's the way I tell if the PC connection has dropped on my 360--custom playlist not loading something's wrong).</p>


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So, If I wanted to keep that as a part of my menu music, now I have to buy it again through Sony Music--if they even have that?  Come on...that's just bad business especially when the competitor will use the existing tracks you have.</p>
 

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In addition, when my wife and I were dating she fell in love with the song "Bullet-Proof Skin" by The Institute, which was in NHL 07 I believe.  So, I went to Amazon and bought it for her and keep it as part of the "menu music" in my NHL games (it's the way I tell if the PC connection has dropped on my 360--custom playlist not loading something's wrong).</p>


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So, If I wanted to keep that as a part of my menu music, now I have to buy it again through Sony Music--if they even have that?  Come on...that's just bad business especially when the competitor will use the existing tracks you have.</p>
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I dont think you would have to pay for the song, but the service is a monthly one. You can build a lot of tracks lists and such. And it isnt AWFUL. But like Amazon and Itunes, it is harder to NOT find the song. I also havent used it a ton either. It isnt much and worth it for me, but I also dont have a huge collection. </p>
 

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Anybody get Battlefield 4?   Reviews?   My son is chomping at the bit to get a copy, too bad he is grounded....</p>
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2 buddies I talked to really like it. I cant speak personally as I dont play these much. </p>
 

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I have it but have barely gotten to play it. Played 5 minutes on campaign mode and it froze. Before I had a chance to play anymore the Hawks game was on and then I've been on a business trip since. It was good for those 5 minutes, lol.

They've finally added a test range for testing weapons and vehicles. Now I can finally learn to really fly the copters and jets. They also have made the progression of the weapon upgrades better. I really can't wait to get into the game more.
 

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