What are things you hate about Chicago?

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Did you tell them that our violence is localized into a few areas and not the entire city?

Didn't some folks get attacked at the Walgreens in the Magnificent Mile a few years back? I don't call that localized violence.
 

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Well shit maybe I shouldn't ever visit Chicago. Don't want to get attacked at Walgreens. Or maybe I should just try CVS.

To use actual stats (rather than "I done heard 'bout somebody that got beat up a few years ago in that neighborhood, once!"), the Near North Side (where the Mag Mile is located) has a murder rate that's below 4 per 100,000.

The national murder rate is around 4.8 per 100,000. That's about what it was in the early 60's, by the way. Things have been getting better for the last 20 years or so. That's true for the country and Chicago, but everyone ignores that.

Out of Chicago's 77 neighborhood areas, 26 have a murder rate that's 5.2 or lower. Those places have a murder rate that's close to or lower than the national average. Some of them have numbers that are WAY lower. The number in North Center or Lincoln Square is usually 1.

On the other hand, you've got places like Englewood, Garfield Park and Washington Park where the murder rate can be 70 to 85 murders per 100,000. Compare that to the places I just mentioned or Lincoln Park (where the number is 1.6). That's localized violence.
 

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If you don't like reading and respond better to pictures, here's similar info from the New York Times that accounts for 2001-2012.

NYTimes1-3-2013ChicagoMurders.jpg
 

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If you don't like reading and respond better to pictures, here's similar info from the New York Times that accounts for 2001-2012.

NYTimes1-3-2013ChicagoMurders.jpg

Great! Let me just call my realtor and pony up for a place in Lincoln Park.

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So, now you're agreeing that the violence is localized.

So you're saying that the violence occurs in black neighborhoods and not in the affluent white neighborhoods? By God WCL, you have truly stumbled onto something there. Write a book and let the world know.
 

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So you're saying that the violence occurs in black neighborhoods and not in the affluent white neighborhoods? By God WCL, you have truly stumbled onto something there. Write a book and let the world know.

You were saying earlier that wasn't the case.

I love how this idiot makes a statement, and when you prove him wrong, he goes, "Well, what you're saying is really obvious." It wasn't that obvious to him when he was arguing against it, a few minutes earlier.
 

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You were saying earlier that wasn't the case.

I love how this idiot makes a statement, and when you prove him wrong, he goes, "Well, what you're saying is really obvious." It wasn't that obvious to him when he was arguing against it, a few minutes earlier.

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Awe, the guy who thinks it's okay to hit a woman in the face and murder someone over a stolen television can't articulate a thought. Who would have guessed?
 

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I am a broken record.... but Chicago roads.... in the city.....

Don't know what it is like now but I hated Irving Park Road. If you could kill a road I would have murdered that piece of shit long ago. And the Taste of Chicago. Every time I went it was 6000 degrees and people didn't walk. They'd just stand there with their pickles on a stick or the McDonald's they went to the Taste of Chicago for. Seriously, people actually got McDonalds and Connie's pizza? Food-wise I'm as lame as you get but even I'm above that. I hate the trains too. They seem to stop for no effing reason.
 

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It's natural for people to defend what they own or where they live

I grew up on the nW side near Belmont and Cicero in a house my family built in 1915. It's all I really knew for the first 25 years and it was fine. If I had lived in that house my whole life it would have been fine

But now that I live elsewhere and have travelled the country for years, I realize that Chicago is a real shithole. I ride the metra into the city and the closer I get the shittier the houses become. The city is cramped, filthy and falling apart. Just depressing to think what it would be like to live there again.
 

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It's natural for people to defend what they own or where they live

I grew up on the nW side near Belmont and Cicero in a house my family built in 1915. It's all I really knew for the first 25 years and it was fine. If I had lived in that house my whole life it would have been fine

But now that I live elsewhere and have travelled the country for years, I realize that Chicago is a real shithole. I ride the metra into the city and the closer I get the shittier the houses become. The city is cramped, filthy and falling apart. Just depressing to think what it would be like to live there again.

Same here Ommy..I didnt realize how shitty Chicago was till I discovered outside places..For most of my life, I was happy cause I didnt know any better.I would look out the kitchen window and see my neighbor shaving in his bathroom 8 feet away...lol
 
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It's not falling apart. They'll always have the shiny bean. Wrigley Field was falling apart. Did they fix that?
 

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Same here Ommy..I didnt realize how shitty Chicago was till I discovered outside places..For most of my life, I was happy cause I didnt know any better.I would look out the kitchen window and see my neighbor shaving in his bathroom 8 feet away...lol

I'm just the opposite. I moved a lot growing up, but I mostly grew up in suburbs and rural areas. But now, I like living in places that are medium or high density. I actually get nervous when I'm outside a city. It's quiet and you can see stars and shit. I don't cotton to it (you guys used to use "cotton" like that, right?). I also like places that are a little gritty.
 

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Every summer for a week my uncle would bring me out to his house in Hoffman Estates to stay with his family. Just a small ranch on a decent sized property. But unlike the city the air was fresh, the houses wernt falling apart, no potholes, no filth, stuff to do and places to go. Didnt have to play sports in a school yard full of broken glass. I was on Amtrak today looking at the houses and streets and beat up old cars and it depressed me
 

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