TheStig wrote:
Kush77 wrote:
I think what we disagree on (Stig, Hou, maybe Shakes - haven't read every post) is about Amare being worth a max deal. And I agree he's not a max player. But what's the option?
That's something I guess we'd have to wait until the offseason to see. Is there a team that will offer him the max? I guess New York would so then the Bulls would be in a biding war. So I would say yes, pay him the max.
What's the alternative? Especially if they don't get the Big 3 ( which I don't think they will). Get Joe Johnson? Fine, but you have the same issue's that have plagued this team the past 3 years.
Can the Bulls go into 2010-2011 without a scoring threat down low? I say no.
But Bulls' management seems willing to wait for this perfect storm of youth, cap flexibility and skill. Only if the world was so perfect.
And for Stig's post about Amare's numbers. they're pretty good this year. Not down too far if you look at mins. and shot attempts. He's shooting 55%. It's down from his career year from 07/08 but not too far.
Kush, I agree partially. I just think you gotta go after Amare now. See if he makes you much better and let him walk if he doesn't. Lets face it, if he goes to Cleavland, two of top 6 fas are off the market. Someone better up the ante because the cavs better not get him for Big Z and JJ hickson. Hell why don't we throw Miller and some sort of combo of TT, JJ or Taj. Hell, I'd love to make Deng a principile in the deal.
Amare's numbers have dropped across the board. I don't know what your talking about but he has clearly dropped off from his two career years. Lower shooting percentages, less rebounds, less free throws, less blocks, his numbers are down about 20% across the board since his career years. Thats Amare was really agressive and dangerous, the current amare looks like he lost some of that passion and half a step. I'd rent him for the year and see where we are at but I would definetly put him at a notch below bosh.
the drop in his numbers aren't that bad. He's averaging 21 ppg this year. His high was 26 back in 05 but I tend to look at his good year post-microfracture surgery in 07/08, 25 ppg 9.1 rebs .590 FG and 2.1 blks, 15.3 FG attempts per game in 33.9 min.
This year he's 21.2 ppg, 8.6 rebs, 55% FG, 1 blk on 14.3 FG attempts per game in 34.8 min.
It's not that drastic of a drop. If he puts up an extra shot or 2 per game and gets his FT% back over 80% (which is great for a big man) then he's closer to the 25 ppg. His shooting % is down from that .590, but he's still .55% that very good for someone who doesn't dunk the ball 50 or 60% of the time like Howard or Shaq. Rebounding has pretty much been the same his whole career, never has broke 10 per game. But that's where Noah would come in and it wouldn't worry me too much.
The blocks are down, the FT % is down (but still very good for his position).
But you'd take him and so would I. The Bulls can't keep going the way they are. They gotta have some threat in the paint.
