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That's funny 'cause Boller threw the ball threw the goal posts from the 50 from his knees.
That's funny 'cause Boller threw the ball threw the goal posts from the 50 from his knees.
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That must of been his ceiling at an accuracy level.
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I'm pretty much "fascinated" with any QB not named Cutler.
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I think that it is more of people hearing that QBs are getting very poor grading from NFL sources.
As an example:
Talk like this has to be taken with a grain of salt because it is an initial grade (and most grades change a lot from how until draft time - Wentz was said to maybe make it as high as early 2nd round at this time last year), because the source could and probably has already started their smoke screen machines, and because Walter's source could be anything from a janitor of the team to a fan of the team.
So we continually hear that it is a weak QB class (one site saying that the only QB with a 1st round grade (and that is a mid-first round grade) is Kizer. So when we are sitting at #3, we have a chance at one of the blue chip players in the draft (Garrett, Allen, Hooker) or a chance at one of the top 3 QBs which are rated poorly by team personnel (or team janitors?) at the moment, we see perceived value in drafting the tier 2 QBs in the 2nd.
Drafting a 2nd round QB at #3 is worse than drafting a 3rd round QB at #35.
Of course, some QBs will move up the boards as draft time draws nearer. That usually happens be it for the smoke from the smoke screens start clearing, the Kipers of the world starting to hear from teams of a more real value of the players, or too many teams being too desperate for a starting QB thus raising the whole QB class where it should never be.
I have no idea where these QBs should go. Watson, as an example, is extremely confusing to me. He had a ton of yards and TDs against Alabama with its defense full of NFL worthy players for two championship games in a row. However; his accuracy that he showed in Monday's game was quite poor especially early.
Seeing that accuracy is probably the most important thing in a QB, what does that say about Watson? And, no, accuracy does not improve from college to the pros. It gets worse.
What makes Aaron Rogers so good? His running ability (which he has) or his pin-point accuracy at all levels?
I hope that the Bears see every positive and negative thing from all 6 players (3 blue chips and 3 QBs) during the draft process and then have a clear-cut favorite left when they get to their pick at #3.
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Dude, I read through 100+ replies and the answer to the thread was right at the very bottom. Nicely done.
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No. DWat has proven to be a notch above experienced Qb, who can pass the ball effectively, make plays on the move, take over and win $$$games.
Kizer is next up Mahomes would be a strong 2b Qb I'd look at taking. As the article mentions he's had the least to work with, yet he has produced at a high level. Ya want a guy who defies the odds.
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I keep hearing the "inaccurate", "1 read" narrative about DWat. So my question is how is almost a 70% completion rate "inaccurate" and why can't the best "D" in college stop this "1 read" Qb from passing for 400 yards++
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Did you happen to watch who he was throwing to?
That big receiver that could be a top ten pick as well covered up some pretty trashy throws in the championship game. I would imagine that has been happening all year.
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"Deshaun is NFL-ready. He is phenomenal off the field. He's the anti-Jay Cutler. He would be a breath of fresh air for the Bears. He would come into that organization and people would just gravitate toward him. He's a lot longer and more athletic than people think. He's very gifted athletically, and I think he's a smooth passer that makes every NFL throw. There will be a transition from their scheme at Clemson to the NFL level, but when Nick Saban says that preparing for Watson was as difficult as preparing for Cam Newton, people take notice."
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To the tune of a 67%+ completion percentage over his entire college career?
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No shit, especially since it's early. But there is a general consensus at this point by people that do this for a living. After the combine/pro days, we'll all have a general consensus on where players are likely to go. Not the exact pick, but a general area.
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Meh. According to a fantasy football draft value spreadsheet I found on the internet Watson grades out as an end of the draft flyer for next season.... or if you play auction a throwaway $1 purchase... which roughly translates to a 3rd round grade in real life NFL draft value.
Let's all remember, the only thing that really matters here is that the media talking heads tell us the Bears "won the draft" on April 28th.
And the only way to do that is to focus on getting value over actual talent. I mean who really gives a shit about building a Superbowl contender anyways. Nobody remembers who won SB's but a draft bust haunts us foooooorrreeeeeeveeeer.
It might actually be better to trade down and acquire as many 4,5, and 6th rounders as possible to really maximize our return in the big value rounds.
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why you keep posting this when your guy, Watson, comes in 4th?
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then why couldn't some of the top college defenses stop those " pretty trashy throws" to the wr's?
....so it could be that ur marginalizing the fact that he practices with these wr's and they have excellent chemistry with him
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cuz there's a different dynamic going on with Mahomes in the article. Plus, I like to analyze what other Qb's are doing.
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Rodgers final year in college he posted a completion % over 66 with far less talent at his disposal than guys like Watson had. What was evident was how much better he, alone, made their football team and it was again evident at the pro level. Rodgers slipping in the draft as far as he did was just as much a shock back then as it is now and the reason the Packers just couldn't pass him up even though they weren't in the market for a QB that year.
Want my opinion? He should have went at least at #4. But noooooooooo, Grossman experiment ongoing in Chicago so take Ced the head case Benson. Fuckin' jackasses!
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you think Aaron Rodgers would have become Aaron Rodgers with the Bears at the time?