Who Is Your Least Favorite Cub?

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Can't wait for the Fuhrer's next response.
 

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You posting short bios of the players with stats gleemed off of a 2 second google search isn't "in depth" that's compiling data.

I didn't get that off of google. I got that from looking through fangraphs data.

Yes, because we clearly know that Z wasn't a pain in the ass when NOT blowing up.

I'm sure Z was an angel behind closed doors.

Are you seriously this udmb or just naive?

. What about the others? Whats your excuse for that?

You don't know that Z was a pain in the ass. You're making an assumption with nothing to back it up.


Yes you did.

You starting at 1919 for your "analysis" cuts out over four decades of Cubs baseball.

You posting shirt biogrpahies doesn't change the fact that your Top 10 and your initial reasoning for it cut out over 40 years.

Quit being a clown.

It's not a biography at all. It's player data. I never gave a top 10.... and I never cut 40 years out of it. When I posted 3 things of data, I had the 1919 and later setting on. That's it. Plus it's kinda hard to cut out over 40 years, yet still acknowledge the stats for the players... DERP

No.

I didn't.

I never have.

Ever.

Using one stat to evaluate players F...T...L.

You clearly did say using one stat. I haven't used one stat. I've used several.


Prove it then. You can keep saying me all you want, but you haven't proven shit. If you can prove to me why WAR sucks as you say, I'll stop using it. Hell, I'll even take a ban from here :)
 

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I didn't get that off of google.
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Dense one here.

The Reich is in weak hands.

You don't know that Z was a pain in the ass.
:rolling:


You're making an assumption with nothing to back it up.
Yeah it's a HUGE stretch that a guy that just got traded because no one on the team wanted him there wasn't thebest clubhouse guy.

The Reich is in weak hands.





It's not a biography at all. It's player data. I never gave a top 10....
and I never cut 40 years out of it.
Please review your fangraphs link.

Hold

Mah

Dick





I haven't used one stat.

WAR, not a stat. You tried to use two. One of which was wrong. 2=/= to several.


You can keep saying me
It's ME. How can you understand it when you can't even get it right?
 

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BTW: For issues with WAR please refer to all teh faulty fucking subjectivly weighted metrics that go into it.

K Thnx.

*Goose steps around thread*
 

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Milton Bradley, Carlos Zambrano, Michael Barrett, Mickey Morandini, Mike Morgan and Heathcliffe Slocombe (sp).

Those are some off the top of my head that I really couldn't stand.
 

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I didn't get that off of google. I got that from looking through fangraphs data.



You don't know that Z was a pain in the ass. You're making an assumption with nothing to back it up.



It's not a biography at all. It's player data. I never gave a top 10.... and I never cut 40 years out of it. When I posted 3 things of data, I had the 1919 and later setting on. That's it. Plus it's kinda hard to cut out over 40 years, yet still acknowledge the stats for the players... DERP





You clearly did say using one stat. I haven't used one stat. I've used several.



Prove it then. You can keep saying me all you want, but you haven't proven shit. If you can prove to me why WAR sucks as you say, I'll stop using it. Hell, I'll even take a ban from here :)

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My favorite teams
  1. Chicago White Sox
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Chicago Blackhawks
  1. Toledo Rockets
Least favorite Cub?

I've watched a good amount of Cubs games over the years, probably more than Sox games, because my dad was a big Cubs fan when I lived with him until 2008 and we have WGN America/Superstation in Toledo.

Probably Dempster. Good pitcher, but he just rubs me the wrong way.
 

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I hated very few players. There have been plenty of bad players, but I don't think in the vast majority of cases that players chose to suck once they got here. I didn't enjoy watching guys like Todd Hundley, Jason Marquis, Augie Ojeda, Jose Macais, Milton Bradley, etc.

I absolutely hated watching this team managed by Don Baylor, however. No matter what inning or the situation you could always count on the second hitter bunting the leadoff hitter over if he got on. That and his decision that he absolutely had to have Augie Ojeda on the big league roster instead of Miguel Cairo.
 

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Here's an article that shreds WAR.

Is WAR the new RBI? | It's About The Money

Read, learn. STFU.

I love at the end he shreads WAR then goes limp dicked saying what CO does despite roasting it. Someone got scurred of the slide rule geeks.

His problems are with UZR. Did you read the article? He listed literally 0 problems with pitcher's WAR. He also had a problem with protection in a lineup... which is a pretty weak stance.

He also helped to make my point here:

As yet, it is probably as good a singular statistic as is widely available.

Go ahead and find a better singular statistic :)
 

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His problems are with UZR.
Clearly you didn't read the entire article if you think his lone problem is with UZR.

Please attempt to read again. This time don't be an idiot.



Go ahead and find a better singular statistic :)

He spent countless pages then ANOTHER whole blog post shredding WAR then comes to that conclusion. His conclusion is flawed based on his own findings. PLUS WAR is the vogue metric right now. No one will come out and rape it and say it sucks(even if it does).

WAR sucks. The post proves it.

Go back to being racist.
 

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i think some of the points from that WAR article are applicable to alot of metrics and stats...

Yep. Which is even funnier because WAR mashes a bunch of metrics together..so the metrics leading to WAR are flawed, WAR is flawed...it blows. But CO thinks its worth a shit and is basing Z being a top 10 pitcher for the Cubs based in part on it
 

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Yep. Which is even funnier because WAR mashes a bunch of metrics together..so the metrics leading to WAR are flawed, WAR is flawed...it blows. But CO thinks its worth a shit and is basing Z being a top 10 pitcher for the Cubs based in part on it

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