Who still thinks CHI should have traded Deng & Noah & a pick for Carmelo Anthony?

[scottiepippen1994]

Deng has somthing that Melo will never have and that is Derrick Rose and a Chicago Bulls uniform....
And most inportantly, he has SP94's support.....Deng wins.....end of story............

 

[houheffna]

When Melo was on the trade block, it was very enticing, but I am sure glad Deng is still a Bull and Melo is not...Deng=team basketball and Melo=self......
Melo may be the more talented scorer, but is for self.
Deng isn't as talented, but is good in every single catagory which is better for any team....And Deng works twice as hard as Melo.....In the end, Deng will have more rings and that's all that matters.........
Look at the Nuggets record and look at New Yorks record? Nuff said buddy boy....

Don't count your rings before you win them, not a good idea. Melo is a more talented player than Deng and no comparison need be made.

As far as the record goes, they made a good deal...but the Nuggets have yet to achieve anything. Let them win a playoff round without Melo before we condemn his talents.

 

[houheffna]

Deng has somthing that Melo will never have and that is Derrick Rose and a Chicago Bulls uniform....
And most inportantly, he has SP94's support.....Deng wins.....end of story............

J.R. Smith has your support, that and 2 dollars might get him a bus pass...doesn't mean squat until they win something, no matter what uniform they are wearing.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

J.R. Smith has your support, that and 2 dollars might get him a bus pass...doesn't mean squat until they win something, no matter what uniform they are wearing.

I think someone just got supertrolled y'all

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I don't think his abilities as a player are overrated due to those circumstances. I think there are more mitigating factors involved. And yes, he made ONE WCF when he was 24. Billups, like everyone else, stood and watched Carmelo Anthony destroy the competition that postseason. Everyone knows how rough the west was, I don't think Anthony can be blamed for his team not being good enough. Billups was no savior.

where did i say billups was a savior? it has to do with his leadership and experience...it played a role here

Were there issues in Denver? Yes

this is a given

...does that mean Carmelo is overrated? No.

right his issues in denver dont make him overrated..its his game

It means he and his coach didn't get along, which was the case with more than one player on that team.

its not the coach that is unlikable..its the players

But with that said, Melo's abilities are most definitely NOT overrated.

abilities=/= value and worth of a player

Its one thing to say that Carmelo Anthony may not benefit the team,

which he does

But its another thing entirely to say he is not as skilled as advertised.

A.duh those are two different statements

B.i never technically said he wasnt as skilled as advertised

That is absolutely false,

oh boy

and nobody can name 2 or 3 players more skilled at scoring the basketball.

right now? i think kobe,lebron,and durant can be argued

 

[JosMin]

Simply from a chemistry standpoint, I don't think Carmelo and Rose would mesh well. Besides, I've still never seen Carmelo have a positive effect on a game from the defensive end of the floor. To me, his offensive skill set doesn't amount to trading away two of our four best players, plus additional assets (cash, picks, etc).

He sure is scoring a lot this year. 6 30+ point games, if I'm not mistaken. And he's got another superstar around him (Amar'e) and a "defensive enforcer" in Tyson Chandler, but tell me again, how many wins has that translated to? And who did they lose to in overtime last night?

Again... we don't need Carmelo. We need a spell of good health to get all of our starters on the floor for an extended stretch of time.

 

[nwfisch]

I would have done the trade for Melo.

Right now, it seems that Melo hasn't learned to play well without the ball.

I think Deng has closed the gap by a lot on Melo.

 

[houheffna]

where did i say billups was a savior? it has to do with his leadership and experience...it played a role here

Every player on the team played a role, but the guy that made it all happen was Carmelo Anthony...period. Billups ability to lead does not put the ball in the basket.



this is a given



right his issues in denver dont make him overrated..its his game

And that is where I disagree, he is a great offensive talent.


its not the coach that is unlikable..its the players

According to who? Karl has had issues with players when coaching the Sonics and the Bucks. Lets not act as if Karl walks on water here...

abilities=/= value and worth of a player


which he does


A.duh those are two different statements

Duh! That is why I made the two statements, because they are different, no point in being redundant.

B.i never technically said he wasnt as skilled as advertised



oh boy


right now? i think kobe,lebron,and durant can be argued

I would disagree, he is bigger and stronger than Durant but Durant is a better shooter., Kobe is there, age would be the only detriment, Lebron is limited offensively when it comes to scoring the basketball. He is not as good a post player as Melo is. Those are better players than Carmelo, but not necessarily better scorers. But if those are the only players in the league that are better scorers than Carmelo Anthony, then I would think he is pretty damn valuable.

 

[houheffna]

Simply from a chemistry standpoint, I don't think Carmelo and Rose would mesh well. Besides, I've still never seen Carmelo have a positive effect on a game from the defensive end of the floor. To me, his offensive skill set doesn't amount to trading away two of our four best players, plus additional assets (cash, picks, etc).

He sure is scoring a lot this year. 6 30+ point games, if I'm not mistaken. And he's got another superstar around him (Amar'e) and a "defensive enforcer" in Tyson Chandler, but tell me again, how many wins has that translated to? And who did they lose to in overtime last night?

Again... we don't need Carmelo. We need a spell of good health to get all of our starters on the floor for an extended stretch of time.

If Noah is one of your four best players, you should trade him asap, because he is vastly overpaid. He spends way too much time on the bench when it counts to be considered too valuable to trade for a player like Anthony.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

where did i say billups was a savior? it has to do with his leadership and experience...it played a role here

Every player on the team played a role, but the guy that made it all happen was Carmelo Anthony...period. Billups ability to lead does not put the ball in the basket.



this is a given



right his issues in denver dont make him overrated..its his game

And that is where I disagree, he is a great offensive talent.



its not the coach that is unlikable..its the players

According to who? Karl has had issues with players when coaching the Sonics and the Bucks. Lets not act as if Karl walks on water here...

abilities=/= value and worth of a player


which he does


A.duh those are two different statements

Duh! That is why I made the two statements, because they are different, no point in being redundant.

B.i never technically said he wasnt as skilled as advertised



oh boy


right now? i think kobe,lebron,and durant can be argued

I would disagree, he is bigger and stronger than Durant but Durant is a better shooter., Kobe is there, age would be the only detriment, Lebron is limited offensively when it comes to scoring the basketball. He is not as good a post player as Melo is. Those are better players than Carmelo, but not necessarily better scorers. But if those are the only players in the league that are better scorers than Carmelo Anthony, then I would think he is pretty damn valuable.

Id ratther have HouHeffner on the Bulls than Melo.
Gotta love the bigguy..
We could use another Michael Sweetney.

 

[Axl Rose]

hold up that aint houh in his avy is it?

i thought that was e-40

 

[JosMin]

If Noah is one of your four best players, you should trade him asap, because he is vastly overpaid. He spends way too much time on the bench when it counts to be considered too valuable to trade for a player like Anthony.

Because somebody's vastly overpaid, we need to trade him? Okay, than everyone on our roster not named Derrick Rose, Luol Deng, Taj Gibson and Omer Asik should be dealt.

That's the way the NBA works. Teams overpay for guys that fit their style. Even with the lockout, owners didn't learn. Look at what Nene got, look at what Chandler, Mark Gasol, etc., got. Are ANY of those guys worth what they're getting paid, Noah included? Absolutely not. To me, there's one elite center in the NBA (Dwight Howard) that should be getting paid the money those other centers are getting. If Noah hadn't been slumping this season, this wouldn't even be an argument.

I'll say it again -- trading Joakim Noah, Luol Deng and whatever other assets for Carmelo Anthony would not bring us any closer to an NBA Championship. The guys we have right now give us our best chance to win. I have faith that, when healthy, this is the best team in the NBA. It's the deepest team in the NBA. It's the best coached team in the NBA with the best fans and best arena in the NBA.

BE PROUD OF THE TEAM WE GET TO ROOT FOR NIGHT IN AND NIGHT OUT!

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Carmelo would not work on the Bulls!

Doesn´t fit in the scheme, isn´t known as a team first guy (which everybody on the Bulls is!)

He has more talent than Deng, yes. But is the more talented player also the better player? Not necessarily!

Lebron for example is the most talented player but I still think Kobe is better! Call me whatever you want but that´s just my opinion!

And: Not the team with the best players wins, but the team with the players who fit best together! And Carmelo DOESN´T fit!

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Every player on the team played a role, but the guy that made it all happen was Carmelo Anthony...period. Billups ability to lead does not put the ball in the basket.

where do you think the leadership and communication as well as composure is most important.DEFENSE....melo sucks nuts at it...he lit up the playoffs great...he was on a good role..but it means nothing if the offense is merely compensating for the defense

btw billups averaged 20 points and 7 assists in the 08-09 playoffs

And that is where I disagree, he is a great offensive talent.

just because he's a "great" offensive talent doesnt mean he's not overrated...he's not a 5 tool player or anything...much more closed in dimensionally

According to who? Karl has had issues with players when coaching the Sonics and the Bucks. Lets not act as if Karl walks on water here...

with the sonics he had guys like shawn kemp among others...its part of karl's coaching style..in denver he had melo,jr smith, birdman,etc....those guys arent the greatest to work with

i never said nor acted like karl walks on water...he's got his own issues

I would disagree, he is bigger and stronger than Durant but Durant is a better shooter.

so...you're not...really..proving..anything...here...

actually durant is taller and has a longer wingspan...he can drive but he can take and make any shot given to him

Kobe is there, age would be the only detriment,

the fact that he's leading the league in scoring with his age and mileage is a testemant

Lebron is limited offensively when it comes to scoring the basketball.

yet he averages more PPG than Melo..lebron isnt as versatile but he's better...his athleticism gives him an ability to finish at the rim..and he has a good midrange, outside game...and actually lebron is improving his post game as well

Those are better players than Carmelo, but not necessarily better scorers.

kinda the point of him being overrated

But if those are the only players in the league that are better scorers than Carmelo Anthony, then I would think he is pretty damn valuable.

well duh scoring is valuable...but just because you're scoring ability is valuable doesnt make you an incredibly valuable player overall...


btw you're response quoting format is odd

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

hold up that aint houh in his avy is it?

i thought that was e-40

no, thats definitely hou

FT is john krasinki as well

 

[scottiepippen1994]

no, thats definitely hou

FT is john krasinki as well

 

[DCguy]

hold up that aint houh in his avy is it?

i thought that was e-40

I used to think the same thing lol.

 

[DCguy]

I ain't gonna lie, when I first started posting on here and saw hue posting, I used to start singing this song. I thought his avatar was E-40 rocking a golden child shirt.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byuQVTdlfos&list=FLD25-lpM7rYvfAnZVJ7r50A&index=27&feature=plpp_video]E-40 featuring Suga-T - Sprinkle Me ft. Suga T - YouTube[/ame]

 

[houheffna]

I used to think the same thing lol.

That is Prop Joe from the Wire...

 

[DCguy]

That is Prop Joe from the Wire...

Oh ok cool cool. I been hearing alot about the wire, I have to check that out.