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Ya'll Caleb Truthers are falling back on your hyperbole faster than a mutha!
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I'm kinda with you here. I'm all for the future more than the now.
If it takes a few years then so be it. The only thing that sucks is I think we've already got past the bad part of Fields.
If we take CW he is absolutely coming to a way better situation so hopefully it won't take as long.
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To me it's not just about Fields, it's about what we could get the the pick.but you want a 4th year for Fields
I don't think CW is worth giving up on JF PLUS the picks.
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Stupid then
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I'll be hoping for the best. Just win, that's ALL that matters to me.
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I hear ya.
I can say I think Fields will be better long term than CW. That's all that matters to me.
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not really
caleb is an upgrade from justin fields, its that simple. only ones attaching "generational" expectations are the ones against taking caleb in the first place
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We hope he's an upgrade, only thing he's done related to the NFL so far is have a press conference.
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the bar is low
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Not really, one was a top 100 player by his peers last year.
One is an unknown, the other is a disappointment. Very likely that caleb could also be a disappointment, because thats how the NFL works.
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one hasnt even thrown for 3000 yards
spare me the top 100 list. where are the results
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I do expect Caleb to be an upgrade if they draft him at #1, but pegging him into that category already is just setting yourself up to be disappointed.
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one hasnt even thrown for 3000 yards
spare me the top 100 list. where are the results
Still an NFL rookie who hasn't thrown a single pass. He could end up sucking. Saying he's an upgrade is like saying Greg Oden was an upgrade when he was drafted. You never know what will happen, especially when the guy is playing under center for the bears.
You HOPE he's an upgrade.
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sounds more like you hope he isn't. like i said, the bar is low and it doesn't have anything to do with some nfl network top 100 list
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See I disagree with this.
If you look at the context of Fields career he never really had a chance.
Once he realized "fuck it, the only WR I can trust is DJ" he started hitting him on some insanely good throws.
IMO, we have been through his growing pains.
Then again if we pass on CW and Fields sucks then fuck Poles
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Either you're disingenuous or a dimwit.
Fields in year 4 vs Caleb in year 1 will be a major narrative all season long
Eberflus' job security will be a story all year long if they struggle
The only way both of those narratives go away is if they hit the ground running and win right away. Caleb will have a top 5 defense and most likely will be asked to game manage much more than he did in college so it's set up well for him. The stats will be worthless (as it was for Justin when the defense emerged and he game managed following his injury) and the only thing that matters in this situation is W/L.
This can work out but to downplay Justin's talent/ability and pretend like Eberflus wasn't just named (by Bears players) the worst retuning HC in the NFL is putting your head in the sand.
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yup, Caleb is going to have a difficult time replacing Sam Darnold level production
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What if he's worse? I mean I'll hope for the best but what if CW sucks and Fields is good somewhere?
I'm not saying it's a reason to not draft him. Infact I'm 80% sure it's going to happen.
Will we give him time or give up on him?
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I feel like some of the same people would be saying the same things after Fields's 7th season. "He's shown progress!! Give him time to develop! His team sucks. His coaches suck. We can't give up on him now. He's only 28! Etc etc etc."
I'm really confused on fans clamoring to keep a subpar QB with bad statistics in very key categories over taking a chance on a talent like Caleb Williams. If he busts, we're simply back in the same situation we are now. Searching for that elusive franchise QB. Can't pass this opportunity up.
I'm really confused on fans clamoring to keep a subpar QB with bad statistics in very key categories over taking a chance on a talent like Caleb Williams. If he busts, we're simply back in the same situation we are now. Searching for that elusive franchise QB. Can't pass this opportunity up.