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It is. It's what you are paying for.Stroud arguably had the best rookie season ever for a QB. If that’s your bar…..
It is. It's what you are paying for.Stroud arguably had the best rookie season ever for a QB. If that’s your bar…..
With 12TDs (14 with rushes), 17 INTs, 9 fumbles (5 lost, 22 turnovers) and 71 rating? I'd hope for a better overall season.I had a discussion yesterday that said expecting Lawrence level performance from CW was too much.
I think 3600 passing yards and 300 rushing yards should be a good starting point to evaluate CW.
Exactly. He better be ready. The opportunity cost warrants it.They're giving up a ton of draft capital for him....not out of the question to expect a significant return for your investment. That's the thing, I don't give a fuck what they do with Fields...it's what they're passing up to draft this guy.
Yeah that’s why I don’t get the grouping. Wildly different seasonsWith 12TDs, 17 INTs, 9 (5 lost) fumbles (22 turnovers) and 71 rating? I'd hope for a better overall season.
correct.They're giving up a ton of draft capital for him....not out of the question to expect a significant return for your investment. That's the thing, I don't give a fuck what they do with Fields...it's what they're passing up to draft this guy.
Because would Williams or Maye succeed if they were out in exact same spot as Fields first 3 years?Why can't anyone just can't say "Caleb Williams/Maye/et. al. are better." It's always, "he'll have a better team, better coaches, blah blah blah" . . . You'd think Fields is both the best quarterback and most unsupportive of all time . . .
I am talking at a minimum passing yards. I can deal heightened INTS his first year, but if he shits the bed passing and can't even line up to other similarly drafted players...there is an issue.Yeah that’s why I don’t get the grouping. Wildly different seasons
What double standard?LOL I hope people see the double standard here. Some of y’all just ain’t serious.
i was told to keep my expectations lower...i disagreed.With 12TDs (14 with rushes), 17 INTs, 9 fumbles (5 lost, 22 turnovers) and 71 rating? I'd hope for a better overall season.
You don’t know what they’re passing up. We won’t know what offers (if any) were made. But Bears fans will imagine they passed up THE HAUL OF THE CENTURY and it will forever cloud their judgment.Exactly. He better be ready. The opportunity cost deserves it.
Caleb better be an 15 year All Pro if the Bears give up 3 1sts and 2 2nds for him. That’s a lot of draft capital to give up.You don’t know what they’re passing up. We won’t know what offers (if any) were made. But Bears fans will imagine they passed up THE HAUL OF THE CENTURY and it will forever cloud their judgment.
“Bears passed up 3 firsts and 2 seconds and a player!!! Caleb better be GENERATIONAL.”
Who gives a flying fuck about yards? What were Mahomes yards his rookie season? Think the Chiefs regret that? What about AR sitting for years? This is about the final product and people are acting like it’ll be a tragedy if the Bears miss out on that wildcard berth this year.I am talking at a minimum passing yards. I can deal heightened INTS his first year, but if he shits the bed passing and can't even line up to other similarly drafted players...there is an issue.
The other teams were drafting at 1 out of necessity because they were the worst teams in the league previously....thats not the case with the Bears.
We also see the situation. Fields has had it bad. The team and coaching near league bottom. I don't understand how some never factor that fact in. We don't need a QB right now. We need a team that gives a QB has a chance to succeed. If CV was drafted 3 years ago most of you would be screaming for his replacement now. I always thought Flus and Fields stay or go together. I think that was always the plan. We'll see.They see a great athlete with a strong arm and leadership qualities and conflate that with being a great QB. His ceiling appears to be good starter/ franchise QB but that's not assured. Better to shoot for one of those top 8 or so guys if you want a chance every year.
Give me one time the Bears ever developed a young QB. So far they failed 2 times in a row.he very well could be . . .
Give me one time the Bears ever developed a young QB. So far they failed 2 times in a row.
so you'd be cool with a Bryce Young yearWho gives a flying fuck about yards? What were Mahomes yards his rookie season? Think the Chiefs regret that? What about AR sitting for years? This is about the final product and people are acting like it’ll be a tragedy if the Bears miss out on that wildcard berth this year.![]()