World Series IGT: Chicago Cubs vs. Cleveland Indians Game 3

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What a bummer of a game. I'm a pessimistic fan and I actually felt confident going into this one. The chances were there. Now tomorrow our #4 goes against their great #1 in a must win. Oooh man
 

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There were at least 6 balls I can name off the top of my head lined right at defenders but whatever. It's pretty obvious people here want to wallow in the misery. The cubs lost 1 to fucking nothing but if you were to believe talk here they may as well have lost by 10 runs. If they literally came through on any of their 7 guys on base francona had no bench and would have already used both his best bullpen options. That's literally the difference in the game.

The Cubs where shout out 2 of 3 games. And right now are on pace to set a record for being shout out in the play offs. I think that says all there needs to be said. Not sure how they flip a switch and change this.
 

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There were at least 6 balls I can name off the top of my head lined right at defenders but whatever. It's pretty obvious people here want to wallow in the misery. The cubs lost 1 to fucking nothing but if you were to believe talk here they may as well have lost by 10 runs. If they literally came through on any of their 7 guys on base francona had no bench and would have already used both his best bullpen options. That's literally the difference in the game.
Whether they lose by 1 or 10 its a loss

Their only allowed 3 because the 4th one sends them home empty handed and another year without a championship.
They now have 2, so they need to win 3 of final 4 games to avoid extending that championship drought.

Losing a 1 nothing game at home and putting themselves down 2 games to 1, just made game 4 huge and 5 that much bigger for them to win..
Especially because game 6 and 7 on road .

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My point is you're setting an impossibly high standard and that's honestly mental. Maybe the cubs win this series. Maybe they don't. But cubs fans don't "deserve" anything. Players don't miraculously play better because team is "due." You don't "will" a championship to happen. You go out there and you take your swings and throw your pitches. Some days you have it and the hits drop. Some days they don't. If people don't get that then I honestly don't see why you watch baseball. That's the game whether it's the regular season or not. Some times the 100 win cubs lose 2 of 3 to the lowly fucking brewers. That doesn't suddenly change because you're in the post season.

As I said earlier, we LITERALLY just saw this happen in the dodgers series when everyone wanted to jump off a fucking bridge going down 2-1 headed to LA. The next night the cubs bats got the hits they needed and they won 3 straight. And if for whatever reason the cubs lose this series it's not like they've been terrible. In a 2-1 series they are -3 in run diff(8-5).

Did I miss where Cubs fans said they "deserve" something?
 

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There were at least 6 balls I can name off the top of my head lined right at defenders but whatever. It's pretty obvious people here want to wallow in the misery. The cubs lost 1 to fucking nothing but if you were to believe talk here they may as well have lost by 10 runs. If they literally came through on any of their 7 guys on base francona had no bench and would have already used both his best bullpen options. That's literally the difference in the game.

It's not that they lost by "1 run". I can live with that 6 days a week and twice on Sunday. It's that they didn't plate one. Not a single one. For this roster that is a disgrace. 15 runners stranded for a team of this caliber. That's unacceptable in my opinion and I see no emotion from them whatsoever. This is supposedly what every baseball player in the world suits up for to start with and you'd think they'd look a little more grateful to be where they are. The indians sure do. Maddon is getting spanked when it comes to getting his team up for the game. Good grief they deserved to get booed back to Cleveland for that egg tonight.
 

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The Cubs where shout out 2 of 3 games. And right now are on pace to set a record for being shout out in the play offs. I think that says all there needs to be said. Not sure how they flip a switch and change this.

And vs the dodgers after getting shut out 2 straight they followed it with 10, 8 and 5. Following being shut out game 1 they scored 5.
 

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It's not that they lost by "1 run". I can live with that 6 days a week and twice on Sunday. It's that they didn't plate one. Not a single one. For this roster that is a disgrace. 15 runners stranded for a team of this caliber. That's unacceptable in my opinion and I see no emotion from them whatsoever. This is supposedly what every baseball player in the world suits up for to start with and you'd think they'd look a little more grateful to be where they are. The indians sure do. Maddon is getting spanked when it comes to getting his team up for the game. Good grief they deserved to get booed back to Cleveland for that egg tonight.

Not buying it. They seem very grateful to me and emotional. I really don't know what you're seeing.
 

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What a bummer of a game. I'm a pessimistic fan and I actually felt confident going into this one. The chances were there. Now tomorrow our #4 goes against their great #1 in a must win. Oooh man

At least Lackey will turn around and light them up if they look like idiots. He's about the only passionate player on the entire roster. The hipster "meh" act from Maddon is wearing incredibly thin on me. This is the dang World Series. Seize the freaking day! Cleveland is. Cleveland comes out swinging and running aggressive and looks fired up. I don't think they're really all that great of a team but they just look like they want to win and are willing to do anything to get it done. We don't. It's like we walk up and say "Well I swung for the fences and missed. I guess I'm done now." I just would like to see them looking like they actually give a crap. Hustling out of the box. Working the count up. Doing little things instead of trying to win it all in the first inning.
 

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My point is you're setting an impossibly high standard and that's honestly mental. Maybe the cubs win this series. Maybe they don't. But cubs fans don't "deserve" anything. Players don't miraculously play better because team is "due." You don't "will" a championship to happen. You go out there and you take your swings and throw your pitches. Some days you have it and the hits drop. Some days they don't. If people don't get that then I honestly don't see why you watch baseball. That's the game whether it's the regular season or not. Some times the 100 win cubs lose 2 of 3 to the lowly fucking brewers. That doesn't suddenly change because you're in the post season.

As I said earlier, we LITERALLY just saw this happen in the dodgers series when everyone wanted to jump off a fucking bridge going down 2-1 headed to LA. The next night the cubs bats got the hits they needed and they won 3 straight. And if for whatever reason the cubs lose this series it's not like they've been terrible. In a 2-1 series they are -3 in run diff(8-5).
But you were asking how as baseball fans, how we couldn't appreciate a 1 nothing game..

Were not watching this series solely as a baseball fan, and it not a game during season..
Plus were fans of a team that not only hasn't won a championship in a lifetime, but hasn't been to one in a lifetime.
So..
It makes it even harder to appreciate such game on the losing end.

No one says we deserve anything, but as a diehard for this team.. It sucks to watch them lose a game like that (1 -0) , and sucks even more to see them fall behind and now need to win 3 of 4.

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Whether they lose by 1 or 10 its a loss

Their only allowed 3 because the 4th one sends them home empty handed and another year without a championship.
They now have 2, so they need to win 3 of final 4 games to avoid extending that championship drought.

Losing a 1 nothing game at home and putting themselves down 2 games to 1, just made game 4 huge and 5 that much bigger for them to win..
Especially because game 6 and 7 on road .

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FWIW the cubs were 46-34 on the road for a .575 win%. Cleveland as a whole had a .584 win%. Not sure going on the road matter so much as it means the cubs are down in the series games. If they beat Kluber tomorrow then they are facing Bauer(vs Lester) who they already beat and Tomlin(vs Arrieta) again for game 6. Obviously he pessimist will wonder how on earth the cubs could possibly beat Kluber after he dominated them game one. I'd present that we literally saw Kershaw do this in the previous series and the cubs dominated him in game 6.

I mean sure I get the disappointment in losing but people need to get a grip. The cubs could easily beat Kluber. Cleveland hasn't been that amazing hitting either. The 2 runs in the first of game 1 were flukey. And obviously Rondon blew up for 3 runs later in the game but it's not like they pounded lester when he was in. Game 2 they were largely ineffective. Tonight they scored a single run.
 

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Not buying it. They seem very grateful to me and emotional. I really don't know what you're seeing.

John Lackey is pretty much the only player I can think of that shows genuine emotion and passion. Bryant certainly doesn't. He just walks to the plate. Watches a first pitch strike. Swings on a second one and misses. Takes a ball. Then swing on one in the dirt and just has an empty stare and goes back to the dugout. I just don't see anyone firing the team up except pretty much for Lackey. He holds people accountable and I hope tomorrow night that he lights them up. They let ground balls by them tonight when Hendricks was on the mound and if they had done that with Lackey up there he'd be lighting in to them. Rightly so. He understand how little room for error there is right now. They don't. At least that's what it looks like to me. Out of curiosity, who do you consider the emotional leader of this team? Or even just emotional in general?
 

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FWIW the cubs were 46-34 on the road for a .575 win%. Cleveland as a whole had a .584 win%. Not sure going on the road matter so much as it means the cubs are down in the series games. If they beat Kluber tomorrow then they are facing Bauer(vs Lester) who they already beat and Tomlin(vs Arrieta) again for game 6. Obviously he pessimist will wonder how on earth the cubs could possibly beat Kluber after he dominated them game one. I'd present that we literally saw Kershaw do this in the previous series and the cubs dominated him in game 6.

I mean sure I get the disappointment in losing but people need to get a grip. The cubs could easily beat Kluber. Cleveland hasn't been that amazing hitting either. The 2 runs in the first of game 1 were flukey. And obviously Rondon blew up for 3 runs later in the game but it's not like they pounded lester when he was in. Game 2 they were largely ineffective. Tonight they scored a single run.

Right now I don't know that they could "easily" beat anybody. Tomlin is no ace but he looked like it tonight. I'm not sure it was as much him looking like it or us making him look like it.
 

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No one says we deserve anything, but as a diehard for this team.. It sucks to watch them lose a game like that (1 -0) , and sucks even more to see them fall behind and now need to win 3 of 4.

And I'm sure I could list any number of 1 run games the Yankees have lost in he world series. I mean i get it you care more because it hasn't happened but my point is you're putting more impact on the loss because of something entirely outside of baseball. Good teams lose 1 run games in the world series. The cubs were never going to miraculously avoid that because that's baseball. The cubs have won 3 straight over a dozen times this year and there's no reason to think that is impossible here. Hell they don't even have to win 3 straight just 3 of 4.
 

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And I'm sure I could list any number of 1 run games the Yankees have lost in he world series. I mean i get it you care more because it hasn't happened but my point is you're putting more impact on the loss because of something entirely outside of baseball. Good teams lose 1 run games in the world series. The cubs were never going to miraculously avoid that because that's baseball. The cubs have won 3 straight over a dozen times this year and there's no reason to think that is impossible here. Hell they don't even have to win 3 straight just 3 of 4.

Yes good teams lose one run games. But how many good teams put up zero run games as consistently as we have and then go on to win it all? Tonight's game to me is not about the 1 it's about the 0. For this roster that is unacceptable.
 

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