WTF Thread

[Rdrhwke]

And back to driving. I swear they should just do away with Rules of the Road books. They should just start printing "Driving For Dummies" books.



I'm on 80-94 in the right hand lane to get on 394 south. So I'm good.



Here comes this dumbass woman from the far left hand lane cutting across traffic because her braindamaged ass was too busy blabbering on the cell phone. Even after she damm near hits me you would think she'd put the fuckin thing down and concentrate on driving. But hell noooooooooo. When she pulls along side me, she's still flapping her fuckin mouth. Then she hits her brakes and cuts in behind me and cuts across one more lane to get to the far right lane to exit because apparently she still wasn't in the right lane. And she was still yakkin like a damm fool.



I hate assholes that drive and **** around with their cell phones and such.



If you wanna talk, text or play with your new fuckin toy get the **** off the road before you cause a wreck.

 

[LaurenNMU]

here's my WTF for the week... I have killed about 10 hornets in the house in the past week WTF??? How are they getting in the house?!! I found a couple of nests outside yesterday and sprayed them yet there was another hornet in the house last night and then another one this morning. Bring it on hornets! You will not leave my house alive!!!

 

[bri]

[quote name="Rdrhwke"]And back to driving. I swear they should just do away with Rules of the Road books. They should just start printing "Driving For Dummies" books.



I'm on 80-94 in the right hand lane to get on 394 south. So I'm good.



Here comes this dumbass woman from the far left hand lane cutting across traffic because her braindamaged ass was too busy blabbering on the cell phone. Even after she damm near hits me you would think she'd put the fuckin thing down and concentrate on driving. But hell noooooooooo. When she pulls along side me, she's still flapping her fuckin mouth. Then she hits her brakes and cuts in behind me and cuts across one more lane to get to the far right lane to exit because apparently she still wasn't in the right lane. And she was still yakkin like a damm fool.



I hate assholes that drive and **** around with their cell phones and such.



If you wanna talk, text or play with your new fuckin toy get the **** off the road before you cause a wreck.[/quote]





I never answer my phone when I'm driving. I feel that there isn't anything that important they can't wait a few minutes for me to call them back. I try to be an observant and defensive driver cause I have no trust in other people; and that requires all of my attention.



Last weekend a teenage girl died in a car accident. They found her phone and it was in the middle of a text she had been typing in.

 

[jakobeast]

[quote name="roshinaya"]



Oh my LOL. What alarmist crap. OMG Think of the kids. The whole I-doser thing is a sham. Nothing beats the real thing, kids.[/quote]



BWWAAAAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!



What a bunch of shit.



"Oh my god, my kid is listening to sounds!!!!!! For the love of god, someone stop it! Why won't the government step in?!?!?!?!?!?!"



He, if your kid is using that to get high, and you think your little bastard will then mainline some sweet lady H, then guess what? Little fuckface was gonna find that shit sooner or later.

 

[Rdrhwke]

[quote name="jakobeast"]



BWWAAAAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!



What a bunch of shit.



"Oh my god, my kid is listening to sounds!!!!!! For the love of god, someone stop it! Why won't the government step in?!?!?!?!?!?!"



He, if your kid is using that to get high, and you think your little bastard will then mainline some sweet lady H, then guess what? Little fuckface was gonna find that shit sooner or later.[/quote]



Well said.

 

[LordKOTL]

Here's my "WTF", and yes, it's a bit self-serving, but bear with me...



So, a week ago when Portland had its heat wave, I decided to beat the afternoon heat by making an impromptu trip to Seaside, OR. To give myself a reason for the trip, I loaded up my "backup" camera--a manual pentax K1000, with a roll of film and thought that given the timeframe, let's see if I can't get some good sunset pics since it's been awhile since I just went out to take photos just for the sake of doing so.



So, this weekend, I went and dropped the film off at the Ritz camera store since they do the best job at developing. Came back, and looked at my photos while the photo person was helping out some couple looking at some prosumer Digitals. The photo person commented on a great sunset photo that I made (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2839084&l=b78f78c127&id=1324763189) that just needed a little cropping because a vignetting issue (fixed that in the link--original photo had more "black" around the edges). I said thanks, and told her that the photo is proof you don't need an expensive digital to get great photos--that one was fill-on manual. She agreed, and complimented me on my choice since she, being a photography student, admired the look of film photos over digial (like I do).



Anyhow, what does this long setup have to do with a WTF moment? Well, the man of the couple, overhearing this, saw the photo, and said that there was no way that the photo wasn't photoshopped to enhance the colors since film cameras weren't that good, and that i should ditch the film and go digital. The photo person said she was the one who processed the film, and she doid nothing other than develop--no enhancements.



Okay, I can understand someone fully embracing digital--thinking film has gone the way of the dinosaurs, but for smeg's sake, insulting someone's handiwork at the store? What was this cretin trying to do; look good in front of his wife or g/f?



Anyhow, rant off...

 

[Guest]

[quote name="LordKOTL"]Here's my "WTF", and yes, it's a bit self-serving, but bear with me...



So, a week ago when Portland had its heat wave, I decided to beat the afternoon heat by making an impromptu trip to Seaside, OR. To give myself a reason for the trip, I loaded up my "backup" camera--a manual pentax K1000, with a roll of film and thought that given the timeframe, let's see if I can't get some good sunset pics since it's been awhile since I just went out to take photos just for the sake of doing so.



So, this weekend, I went and dropped the film off at the Ritz camera store since they do the best job at developing. Came back, and looked at my photos while the photo person was helping out some couple looking at some prosumer Digitals. The photo person commented on a great sunset photo that I made (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2839084&l=b78f78c127&id=1324763189) that just needed a little cropping because a vignetting issue (fixed that in the link--original photo had more "black" around the edges). I said thanks, and told her that the photo is proof you don't need an expensive digital to get great photos--that one was fill-on manual. She agreed, and complimented me on my choice since she, being a photography student, admired the look of film photos over digial (like I do).



Anyhow, what does this long setup have to do with a WTF moment? Well, the man of the couple, overhearing this, saw the photo, and said that there was no way that the photo wasn't photoshopped to enhance the colors since film cameras weren't that good, and that i should ditch the film and go digital. The photo person said she was the one who processed the film, and she doid nothing other than develop--no enhancements.



Okay, I can understand someone fully embracing digital--thinking film has gone the way of the dinosaurs, but for smeg's sake, insulting someone's handiwork at the store? What was this cretin trying to do; look good in front of his wife or g/f?



Anyhow, rant off...[/quote]



I've wanted to get into photography for a while, but I don't want to spend too much money on a camera that has all these features that I will probably never know how to use.

 

[LordKOTL]

[quote name="TJD"]



I've wanted to get into photography for a while, but I don't want to spend too much money on a camera that has all these features that I will probably never know how to use.[/quote].



That's the very problem...getting a good DSLR without a shit-ton of features you'll never use is a daunting task. I even think my older Nikon N75 (film SLR) has more features than I use, and in many ways, I do like breaking out the Pentax K1000 because the only controls are film speed, shutter speed, aperture ring on the lens, and manual focus. No zoom (need a different lens). IMHO while the auto settings are nice for getting an acceptaple photograph or a good snapshot when you absolutely must not screw it up, the real magic happens when you set everything yourself and compose the image manually, and in that case, my Pentax K1000/28mm wide angle lens and 400speed film--all of which could be had from Ebay for less than 100bucks (or in my case, I got the camera free ), can do just as good if not a better job than a 20,000 Professional DSLR/lens combo.



As such, my advice is this: Get yourself some type of cheap camera and know that you will have to make sacrifices, go to the library and check out some photography books, and get out there and practice. Test a lot of your settings, and if you go film (even though i'm an advocate i'd not recommend it since film is harder to procure, developing is getting expensive, and I can't add a darkroom to my apartment), be preapred to source film online and develop stuff and/or digitize it to a computer--either paying a drugstore/lab or learning how to work a darkroom. Learn how to work beyond the auto setting and do as much manual setting as you can and learn how to operate without a computer setting the camera.



If you want "snapshots" of people and places and just want to freeze a moment in time, then by all means get a consumer-level poket digital and keep it on auto--you'll get good shots. But if you take the time to learn how to be a good photographer--by getting a photo of a moment in time composed how you want it to be seen, yes, eventually you'll need new gear, but you can still get good photos out of cheap gear--maybe not the best, but from there, you can determing what youy need and where to go from there.

 

[jakobeast]

[quote name="TJD"]



I've wanted to get into photography for a while, but I don't want to spend too much money on a camera that has all these features that I will probably never know how to use.[/quote]



I dunno what too much money is for you, but I got the wife a Nikon D3000 for her birthday. It is very simple to use, has a real nice interface, and actually has a a kind of built in help button. There is also a book you can get that can help a lot as well.



Check out dealnews.com, they usually have some decent deals on packages. SLR body, couple of lenses, bag and so on. They don't always have deeals, but every now and then they do.

 

[bri]

[quote name="LordKOTL"]Here's my "WTF", and yes, it's a bit self-serving, but bear with me...



So, a week ago when Portland had its heat wave, I decided to beat the afternoon heat by making an impromptu trip to Seaside, OR. To give myself a reason for the trip, I loaded up my "backup" camera--a manual pentax K1000, with a roll of film and thought that given the timeframe, let's see if I can't get some good sunset pics since it's been awhile since I just went out to take photos just for the sake of doing so.



So, this weekend, I went and dropped the film off at the Ritz camera store since they do the best job at developing. Came back, and looked at my photos while the photo person was helping out some couple looking at some prosumer Digitals. The photo person commented on a great sunset photo that I made (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2839084&l=b78f78c127&id=1324763189) that just needed a little cropping because a vignetting issue (fixed that in the link--original photo had more "black" around the edges). I said thanks, and told her that the photo is proof you don't need an expensive digital to get great photos--that one was fill-on manual. She agreed, and complimented me on my choice since she, being a photography student, admired the look of film photos over digial (like I do).



Anyhow, what does this long setup have to do with a WTF moment? Well, the man of the couple, overhearing this, saw the photo, and said that there was no way that the photo wasn't photoshopped to enhance the colors since film cameras weren't that good, and that i should ditch the film and go digital. The photo person said she was the one who processed the film, and she doid nothing other than develop--no enhancements.



Okay, I can understand someone fully embracing digital--thinking film has gone the way of the dinosaurs, but for smeg's sake, insulting someone's handiwork at the store? What was this cretin trying to do; look good in front of his wife or g/f?



Anyhow, rant off...[/quote]





Great pic, Hun. It depicts the essence of peace and tranquility, something I need a hell of a lot more of in my life. Thanks for sharing.

 

[TSD]

[quote name="LordKOTL"].



That's the very problem...getting a good DSLR without a shit-ton of features you'll never use is a daunting task. I even think my older Nikon N75 (film SLR) has more features than I use, and in many ways, I do like breaking out the Pentax K1000 because the only controls are film speed, shutter speed, aperture ring on the lens, and manual focus. No zoom (need a different lens). IMHO while the auto settings are nice for getting an acceptaple photograph or a good snapshot when you absolutely must not screw it up, the real magic happens when you set everything yourself and compose the image manually, and in that case, my Pentax K1000/28mm wide angle lens and 400speed film--all of which could be had from Ebay for less than 100bucks (or in my case, I got the camera free ), can do just as good if not a better job than a 20,000 Professional DSLR/lens combo.



As such, my advice is this: Get yourself some type of cheap camera and know that you will have to make sacrifices, go to the library and check out some photography books, and get out there and practice. Test a lot of your settings, and if you go film (even though i'm an advocate i'd not recommend it since film is harder to procure, developing is getting expensive, and I can't add a darkroom to my apartment), be preapred to source film online and develop stuff and/or digitize it to a computer--either paying a drugstore/lab or learning how to work a darkroom. Learn how to work beyond the auto setting and do as much manual setting as you can and learn how to operate without a computer setting the camera.



If you want "snapshots" of people and places and just want to freeze a moment in time, then by all means get a consumer-level poket digital and keep it on auto--you'll get good shots. But if you take the time to learn how to be a good photographer--by getting a photo of a moment in time composed how you want it to be seen, yes, eventually you'll need new gear, but you can still get good photos out of cheap gear--maybe not the best, but from there, you can determing what youy need and where to go from there.[/quote]





some people just have to be know it alls. Back in the day when I worked at radio shack I would get all the "know it all" Home theatre guru's, who would go on and on about what experts they are in the home theatre area, then when they would proceed to get "insert cable here". WTF, 25 dollars for 6 feet, why the hell would I pay that much for a goddamn cable? I dont know your the home theatre afficianado. Then they proceed to say they are going to best buy to pay the same amount of money in the best way, I guess. If people were surprised by the cost of cabling it was the easiest way to spot a home theatre rookie. Not that I was even an expert, I was just aware that shit is expensive no matter where you go. It was just annoying when they go on and on about what they have and how theyve been doing this for years and have the best this the best that, then when they look at the cables and go wtf I want to say what are you using now? did you craft your own cables out of tin foil?

 

[LordKOTL]

Starting back to forward:



TSD:

On one hand if you look hard enough you can usually find good, inexpensive cabling that meets the spec of what's needed, but you do get what you pay for. Then again--it depends on what kind of cable. $25 for 6' of coax RCA or standard speaker wire...yeah, someone's giving you the full fist. $25 for an HDMI cable latest spec seems reasonable.



Bri: Thanks! I appreciate the props on it. Unfortunately it wasn't too "peaceful" there; there were a lot of people--just not everone if frame The nice onshore breeze & cool low 60's temp though were nice when the temperature back home was well over 90. Defintily a nice, and somewhat fun atmosphere as people were nighttime beach parties and getting soem fires started.



Jako: Nice choice. That one, or the D40, would be a good entry-level DSLR and get a new user in with the DX lens formats. Unfortunately for me, the cheapest FX format DSLR runs just north of $2,000. Hence, I'll stick with film . One thing to add, though, if you're serious about becoming a good photographer. TRIPOD, and weld the camera to it. They aren't that expensive

 

[canucklehead]

[quote name="LordKOTL"].



That's the very problem...getting a good DSLR without a shit-ton of features you'll never use is a daunting task. I even think my older Nikon N75 (film SLR) has more features than I use, and in many ways, I do like breaking out the Pentax K1000 because the only controls are film speed, shutter speed, aperture ring on the lens, and manual focus. No zoom (need a different lens). IMHO while the auto settings are nice for getting an acceptaple photograph or a good snapshot when you absolutely must not screw it up, the real magic happens when you set everything yourself and compose the image manually, and in that case, my Pentax K1000/28mm wide angle lens and 400speed film--all of which could be had from Ebay for less than 100bucks (or in my case, I got the camera free ), can do just as good if not a better job than a 20,000 Professional DSLR/lens combo.



As such, my advice is this: Get yourself some type of cheap camera and know that you will have to make sacrifices, go to the library and check out some photography books, and get out there and practice. Test a lot of your settings, and if you go film (even though i'm an advocate i'd not recommend it since film is harder to procure, developing is getting expensive, and I can't add a darkroom to my apartment), be preapred to source film online and develop stuff and/or digitize it to a computer--either paying a drugstore/lab or learning how to work a darkroom. Learn how to work beyond the auto setting and do as much manual setting as you can and learn how to operate without a computer setting the camera.



If you want "snapshots" of people and places and just want to freeze a moment in time, then by all means get a consumer-level poket digital and keep it on auto--you'll get good shots. But if you take the time to learn how to be a good photographer--by getting a photo of a moment in time composed how you want it to be seen, yes, eventually you'll need new gear, but you can still get good photos out of cheap gear--maybe not the best, but from there, you can determing what youy need and where to go from there.[/quote]

The only thing that Digital has over film is that you can see your pic immediately, so you know if you got the shot, or if it's blurry/someone blinked/moved/is looking mentally handicapped, etc. I hated wasting extra pictures just to make sure I got the shot, or finding out after the fact that it was under/over saturated and a lot of pics went to waste. I don't think I could go back to film, it just seems so inefficient and wasteful.

 

[LordKOTL]

[quote name="canucklehead"]

The only thing that Digital has over film is that you can see your pic immediately, so you know if you got the shot, or if it's blurry/someone blinked/moved/is looking mentally handicapped, etc. I hated wasting extra pictures just to make sure I got the shot, or finding out after the fact that it was under/over saturated and a lot of pics went to waste. I don't think I could go back to film, it just seems so inefficient and wasteful.[/quote]

In many ways, yes. After all, why shoot a 36-roll of film when you can shoot over 900 digital frames--especially if you're taking a group photo and someone blinks. Film=wasted shot. Digital--erase and try again.



Film does have it's places where it shines. It has a higher dynamic range of light than digital. Highlights especially wash out on Digital because of the nature of how the CCD element works. Also, the CCD produces noise at lower levels (white/off-colored spots). Film generally has more grain (which in all but artistic cases is unwanted), but long exposures are never an issue--especially if you're going into minutes of exposure.



While I'm an advocate of film, I do know that for over 90% of the people there, it's not effective for them. Hell, for most, a cheap, pocket digital point-and-shoot will suit their needs. Someone who does a little composition could go with a fixed lens prosumer digital. Someone going intermediate to advanced composition will likely want a DSLR. IMHO unless you're doing landscape, low-light, going for an older "grainer" look, going for a lot of dynamic range, or trying to invoke an effect that a CCD can't capture effectively (see also: this shot I did...), Film would be the way to go--you just have to be patient in framing the shot and making sure everything is set just right since there's no way of knowing if you got it right before it's too late.

 

[phranchk]

WTF?! How did this thread turn into a photography thread?

:lol:

 

[Ymono37]

[quote name="phranchk"]WTF?! How did this thread turn into a photography thread?

:lol:[/quote]we could derail it with some talk about defecating...



WTF - am I sorry when I don't drop a deuce before working out.

 

[LordKOTL]

Sorry, it got out of hand for my vent about the nimrod in the photo shop.

 

[phranchk]

[quote name="Ymono37"]we could derail it with some talk about defecating...



WTF - am I sorry when I don't drop a deuce before working out.[/quote]

Or when you drop a deuce before working out and it's one of those ones that no matter how many times you wipe it's still there. You don't want to have one of those before you work out. When it mixes with swass it's not good.

 

[ginnie]

[quote name="LordKOTL"].



That's the very problem...getting a good DSLR without a shit-ton of features you'll never use is a daunting task. I even think my older Nikon N75 (film SLR) has more features than I use, and in many ways, I do like breaking out the Pentax K1000 because the only controls are film speed, shutter speed, aperture ring on the lens, and manual focus. No zoom (need a different lens). IMHO while the auto settings are nice for getting an acceptaple photograph or a good snapshot when you absolutely must not screw it up, the real magic happens when you set everything yourself and compose the image manually, and in that case, my Pentax K1000/28mm wide angle lens and 400speed film--all of which could be had from Ebay for less than 100bucks (or in my case, I got the camera free ), can do just as good if not a better job than a 20,000 Professional DSLR/lens combo.



As such, my advice is this: Get yourself some type of cheap camera and know that you will have to make sacrifices, go to the library and check out some photography books, and get out there and practice. Test a lot of your settings, and if you go film (even though i'm an advocate i'd not recommend it since film is harder to procure, developing is getting expensive, and I can't add a darkroom to my apartment), be preapred to source film online and develop stuff and/or digitize it to a computer--either paying a drugstore/lab or learning how to work a darkroom. Learn how to work beyond the auto setting and do as much manual setting as you can and learn how to operate without a computer setting the camera.



If you want "snapshots" of people and places and just want to freeze a moment in time, then by all means get a consumer-level poket digital and keep it on auto--you'll get good shots. But if you take the time to learn how to be a good photographer--by getting a photo of a moment in time composed how you want it to be seen, yes, eventually you'll need new gear, but you can still get good photos out of cheap gear--maybe not the best, but from there, you can determing what youy need and where to go from there.[/quote]



Film vs Digital...



Just reading an article in the August issue of Wired magazine, "History Exposed".

It focuses on a panoramic Daguerreotype of Cincinnati taken in 1848 - yes, that is correct, just ten or so years after the first photo ever taken. Now here's the neat part - this picture has the resolution of 140,000 megapixels. That's not a mistake, or an exaggeration. The picture could be blown up to 170X20 FEET without losing clarity.

Here is the picture :

http://codex99.com/photography/images/r ... ama_lg.jpg

NOTE: it is not the resolution of the original!

 

[Ymono37]

[quote name="phranchk"]Or when you drop a deuce before working out and it's one of those ones that no matter how many times you wipe it's still there. You don't want to have one of those before you work out. When it mixes with swass it's not good.[/quote]

AGREED! I will sometimes just straight up skip the workout when that happens. Hate the 2 second drop and 10 minute clean-up.