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I do think Demp to CHW would make alot of sense. Not sure what CHW could offer though. I bet Cubs be interested in some of the specs though
 

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are you an idiot? he isnt felix hernandez. he isnt a starting pitcher that is amazing that is under contract.


A deal for a pitcher of his ilk will not fleece any team unless its a desperate team

But he is worth more than a Dan Johnson at the same time.
 

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14 million is the salary this year, but the Cubs have shown no reluctance to pick up salary to get better prospect(s) under Ricketts.

actually i disagree with that. They shown no reluctance to pick up salary to get rid of guy. Volstad and Bowden not exactly anthing to get excited about
 

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14 million is the salary this year, but the Cubs have shown no reluctance to pick up salary to get better prospect(s) under Ricketts.

I was gonna say we just take on his salary and some low a specs. I forgot he is getting paid heavy.

I am not sure what kind of specs he will net the cubs if the cubs pay his salary. FA to be as well. Ive seen teams get fleeced I have seen the opposite. :dunno:
 

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actually i disagree with that. They shown no reluctance to pick up salary to get rid of guy. Volstad and Bowden not exactly anthing to get excited about

Derrek Lee, Kosuke Fukudome, Carlos Zambrano, and Marlon Byrd were all cases were the team picked up salary to get a deal done. Unfortunately in the cases of Zambrano and Byrd they dealt them at their lowest value, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has been willing to pick up salary.
 

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Derrek Lee, Kosuke Fukudome, Carlos Zambrano, and Marlon Byrd were all cases were the team picked up salary to get a deal done. Unfortunately in the cases of Zambrano and Byrd they dealt them at their lowest value, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has been willing to pick up salary.

which im sure at some point that attitude is going to change.
 

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Derrek Lee, Kosuke Fukudome, Carlos Zambrano, and Marlon Byrd were all cases were the team picked up salary to get a deal done. Unfortunately in the cases of Zambrano and Byrd they dealt them at their lowest value, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has been willing to pick up salary.

Funny part is in all those deals Cubs dont have 1 guy worth a shit. Maybe they should stop paying salarly and see if they get lucky
 

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which im sure at some point that attitude is going to change.

It might but at this point there is no reason to believe that they wouldn't be willing to do it again if it improved the return since they've done it regularly in the past with both GMs Ricketts has had.
 

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Funny part is in all those deals Cubs dont have 1 guy worth a shit. Maybe they should stop paying salarly and see if they get lucky

You know what else is funny in those deals they didn't deal anyone that was worth a shit at the time they dealt 'em either.
 

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You know what else is funny in those deals they didn't deal anyone that was worth a shit at the time they dealt 'em either.

Z would like to say hi with is ERA under 3 :yeah:
 

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I was gonna say we just take on his salary and some low a specs. I forgot he is getting paid heavy.

I am not sure what kind of specs he will net the cubs if the cubs pay his salary. FA to be as well. Ive seen teams get fleeced I have seen the opposite. :dunno:

Exactly because there are plenty of factors outside of the player's salary and production. We will see what the Cubs are able to do because the market has changed substantial due to what Rice has pointed out. I think a deal could be done with the Sox, but the return would be awful unless we were getting a guy like Nate Jones. We will see.
 

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even at the time most Cub fans thought he do really well in MIA

Our belief that he would do well doesn't change the fact that his value at the time of the deal was nil. I didn't agree with making the move for purely clubhouse reasons, but Theo and Jed did. I am not going to crucify them over that one.
 

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Our belief that he would do well doesn't change the fact that his value at the time of the deal was nil. I didn't agree with making the move for purely clubhouse reasons, but Theo and Jed did. I am not going to crucify them over that one.

i agree you cant blame them. But baseball wise to me it was dumb.
 

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i agree you cant blame them. But baseball wise to me it was dumb.

have you ever played on a team?? You just cant have guys like Z on your team and win. Dude is a ticking time bomb never know when he will blow up and quit on the team like last year. I dont care if he wins the Cy Young with the Marlins getting that guy off the team was a must.
 

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have you ever played on a team?? You just cant have guys like Z on your team and win. Dude is a ticking time bomb never know when he will blow up and quit on the team like last year. I dont care if he wins the Cy Young with the Marlins getting that guy off the team was a must.

Winning curse alot of things. I understand he needed to go but i felt cubs should have tried to see how he started this year off with Cubs. If he got off to great start like he has cubs could have gotten more then a shitty AAA pitcher
 
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