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Fair enough. Either way it wasn't me that brought it up as DaBitch suggested.
Fair enough. Either way it wasn't me that brought it up as DaBitch suggested.
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I thought Mark Bradley and Anthony Miller were destined for stardom when they were drafted. Mooney has shown a lot more than either of those ever have.
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Which is meatball homerism. Kmet does not look like a stud. He looks like a fairly average to above average TE. A stud would be if he had Waller/Kelce/Kittle/Ertz potential and if you are claiming he does based off of his rookie year, you are most definitely a homer.
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Idk what you posted before that nor do I care to read through all your posts, I’m referring to your statement that he busted 4 top 10 picks. If you worded it poorly, that’s on you.
“Umm no, all GMs in history don't have 4 top 10 picks in a row. Pace didn't simply bust 4 1st rounders. He busted 4 top 10 picks”
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Claypool would have been the better pick it seems but I am willing to bet that Nagy misuses him. Also a good QB utilizes TE a lot better that QBs like Mitch who don't know how to come off their 1st and 2nd reads to find the safety valves.
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Yes it was worded poorly which was obvious because later on in the same post I called Roquan an all pro and earlier the only player I questioned FX about being a bust was Floyd (he already admitted 4M and White were). The point was he failed on 75% of his top 10 picks.
Now that that is cleared up, does anyone have any other GM that did as poorly as Pace with 4 top 10 picks?
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Without searching.... Not 4 examples but Lynch with Solomon Thomas, McGlinchey, and Nick Bosa. 1 out of 3 in top 10 picks.
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That is just a rationalization to explain the fuck up in not drafting Claypool. The reality is Kmet looks like a checkdown TE. He simply does not have the speed or fluidity to stretch teams down the field as he is more lumbering than he is fast or agile.
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Right on. I think i'd trust the Bears media more than the Philly media as of now but don't really trust any media unless it's Schefter and maybe two others when it comes to the NFL.
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Not sure how you figured McGlinchey is a bust but then claim Floyd wasn't. McGlinchey has a PFF grade above 70 in all 3 years and graded out in the top 32 of Tackles in the NFL in each of his first 3 years. His run blocking is one of the main reasons that Niners run game is ridiculous despite the injuries on the OL as he graded out as a 91.3 run blocking which was 2nd best in entire NFL and he was 3rd best his rookie year.
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#remy
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ohh god pff has entered the room.
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You'd rather have Mariota over Wentz? That's getting crazy IMO.
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Remy literally is always wrong, and the only thing he ever has to say about it is that PFF grades this player such and such, so he's not wrong because PFF.
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I dont think hes a bust I think hes a starter quality player. Just like Floyd who you call a bust. But you seem to think a top 10 player has to be an all pro to qualify. Im just trying to figure out your scale here.
Floyd grades right around a 70 too the last 3 seasons.
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I think wentz has the highest upside(besides watson) of anyone we can get this offseason. Dak isn't a possibility.
Issue is, I don't like giving up picks for him. I don't like the contract, and I don't think he's going to be old wentz ever again.
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Your arguments change more than anyone on here. When I use PFF it's wrong. When I note Pro Bowl or All Pro, it is wrong. The only constant is that anything that disagrees with your opinion is wrong because you somehow think your opinion is the only one that matters. You rant as if you are a GM for an NFL team rather than a meatball on the internet.
Anyone that claims McGlinchey is a bust simply hasn't watched him or the Niners play. Period.
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I'm with you. If you find a solid nfl starter for a decade, I consider that a hit in the first round. You obviously want more, but the majority of first rounders that are "successes" are not probowlers, but just "really solid starters".
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Bro, all you mention is PFF
It's what you back your argument on in every single thread for years now.
It's like you are paid by them, but instead you pay them to give you garbage grades.
There is nothing wrong with referencing pff from time to time, but you legit use it as your end all be all.
And no, I don't think that everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I just think you are wrong, almost always.
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Floyd has never achieved a 70 grade but yes he has been just below. What you are ignoring of course is how that grade is aligned with his peers. He was the 39th, 44th, 37th, and 31st graded Edge in his 4 years with the Bears. So always below average to average. McGlinchey has clearly been better in his time with the Niners as again he as graded 22nd, 32nd, and 19th at T.
The reality is McGlinchey and Bosa are much better than White, Floyd, 4M and Quan.