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Oh he loved him some Pace
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Sure. I think the issues with Mitch Trubisky, Mike Glennon, Nick Foles, Chase Daniel and Andy Dalton pretty much all stem from the fact that at the stage of their careers that they were with the Bears they just kinda sucked. Some of them just sucked in general. There is some hope out there that Mitch Trubisky will have some sort of career ascension in Pittsburgh, but I doubt it.
Good players tend to play well even if the deck is stacked against them. You can tell when a guy is wallowing and being held back. Justin Fields wasn't that. He stank.
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A lot of preemptive excuse making around here about the roster and we haven't even had the draft yet. It's like they don't have a lot of faith in Fields.
Who knows, maybe Fields has a 4k season and then we'll hear how they had no doubts.
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Then so did Josh Allen, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning,etc. I can easily keep going
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idée fixe anyone?
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We noticed you haven’t come up in what you expect from Fields next year, are you really going with 200 yards a game again? @Montucky do you base a QBs success off of yards too
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My real core contention here is that the Bears shouldn't go out of their way to accommodate Justin Fields. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to prioritize drafting a wide receiver over offensive line or even defensive players. And this obsession people have with reuniting Fields with his old college buddies is even dumber.
If the Bears want to give Justin Fields seventeen games of run to see what he's about I'm all for it. I have a feeling how its going to go, but the NFL is a funny league and fortunes can change fast. But the attitude that this season is "all about the development of Justin Fields" isn't grounded in anything more than draft status from a year ago when Ryan Pace (once again) sold the farm in a last ditch effort to keep his job.
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Peyton Manning broke the rookie record for touchdowns thrown. Eli Manning had the most bizarre career of maybe any quarterback ever.
Josh Allen surprised me. He surprised a lot of people. Deep down in my heart of hearts I'm still not sure I'm sold on him. If you are holding out hope that Justin Fields abysmal showing his rookie season is actually a good thing because it mirrors the career of Josh Allen I'm starting to think delusion is setting in.
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Lol
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Until the bears know they got the real deal in a QB, every year will be about finding and developing their QB of the future. The building around a QB happens after you've confirmed you've got your QB of the future.
There is no "building around" Fields that is taking place. Nobody is even asking for it. All people are asking for is putting together an adequate level OL and skills positions players on offense. This should be the goal regardless of whom your QB is. But it really benefits the bears, b/c they'll be able to assess Fields' ability without major talent constraints impacting him, which for a young QB gets highlighted more deeply than a vet.
I don't think you have to worry about the bears going out of their way to accommodate Fields, I think it's pretty clear that's not Poles' plan. Poles might still go after offense with his first 4-5 picks, but I think a lot of those will be no-brainer picks that will fill positions in need the most and aligned with best talent available.
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The 2018 Super Bowl champions started Nick Foles at quarterback. The 2020 Super Bowl Champions signed a forty-two year old Tom Brady before the season started. The 2021 Super Bowl champions traded for their quarterback the off-season before they won it all.
You don't need the Mystical Quarterback Of The Future to win it all. There are other ways.
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I would think after the draft people can reevaluate the roster. I think the issue is you pre-emptively deciding he most be a top 10 or 12 QB without any idea of what the final roster looks like.
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No idea what your point is.
All those teams (minus the eagles, which are nothing but an outlier, and would've probably won with Wentz regardless, negating your "point") won with THE QB they wanted and went all in with.
1. Nick Foles had a great offense around him that was built around Wentz and worked great with Foles in it as well (not planned for)
2. Tom Brady - Bucs handed him the keys, he had the entire offense built around him lol, he basically had his pick of talent from day 1
3. Stafford - Rams went all in, and he joined a team full of pro-bowlers
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I disagree. Nagy certainly can help Mahomes.
Imagine after a grueling workout and then some film review. Mahomes is tired and he just wants to go home. Instead of having to go out of his way to pickup the dry-cleaning, Mahomes knows that Nagy went to pick it up for him and put it in his car. Nagy also filled up the car, got it washed and did some grocery shopping for him.
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I think you prioritize WR because it is a need period and it is likely a WR may in fact be BPA when we pick. Most teams are in 11 personnel the majority of the time. We in effect only have 2 of 3 starting WR slots filled.
There are also still FA OL the Bears can sign but very slim pickings at WR. So WR is a critical need because we are ridiculously thin there.
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The lesson here seems to be build a great team and worry about the quarterback thing when its time to win. Glad you're on board with drafting defense this year!
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He can be a top 15 QB in 2022, but I would still be happy with showing the progress of being a top 20 QB in 2022.
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How many times we got to ask this guy lol. He’s scared if his expectations are met he won’t get a chance to pms post
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Teams should always try to build a great team, regardless of having a weakness at a specific position. That goes w/out saying.
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Watch out, if he ends up being 21st, you'll get shit on by shitstain, he's firmly written your "prediction" in his diary.
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