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How would you rank these guys athletically?

Cole Kmet
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 262 lbs
Arm Length: 33”
Hands: 10 1/2”
40 Yard: 4.70
Vertical: 37"
Broad Jump: 123.00
3 Cone Drill: 7.44


Travis Kelce:
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 260 lbs
Arm Length: 33 3/4"
Hands: 9 3/4"
40 Yard: 4.66
Vertical: 35"
Broad Jump: N/A
3 Cone Drill: 7.12


Rob Gronkowski:
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 258 lbs
Arm Length: 34 1/4
Hands: 10 3/4"
40 Yard: 4.85
Vertical: 36.5
Broad Jump: 121.00"
3 Cone Drill: N/A


Martellus Bennett
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 259 lbs
Arm Length: 35"
Hands: 9 3/4"
40 Yard: 4.75
Vertical: 34"
Broad Jump: 118.00"
3 Cone Drill: 7.64


Kyle Rudolph
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 259 lbs
Arm Length: 34"
Hands: 10 3/4"
40 Yard: 4.78
Vertical: 34.5
Broad Jump: 114.00"
3 Cone Drill: 7.24


Zach Ertz:
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 249 lbs
Arm Length: 31 3/4"
Hands: 9 3/4"
40 Yard: 4.76
Vertical: 30.50"
Broad Jump: 111.00"
3 Cone Drill: 7.08

Kmet is a good athlete.

His 3 cone is pretty bad, but his 40 is more than fast enough and his vertical for his size is insane.

His hands are also massive. He will be whatever QB that we draft best friend for the next decade.

Mark Andrews had a very similar combine, his 3 cone was meh, and he seems to be balling out in the NFL.
 

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Lol I don’t get any of the criticism over taking a TE because who the hell could’ve named a single one outside of the newly signed graham.

Me either. O was trash, QB was trash, I dunno how some people possibly could've wanted more D at that spot.
 

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Ok so I slept on it and re-evaluated.

I still hate the pick.

Can someone please tell me about another draft where TE1 succeeded with comparable college production? I can’t find any other TE1 with this little of college production, it’s crazy. Then, you see not another tight end selected for what felt like 100 picks. With all the top line talent available it felt like Pace did not let the board come to him. Kmet was the going to be the pick regardless.

I’m just not impressed. His biggest strength is getting tackled quickly.

Read this in depth report on him . He's gonna be a beast and still has a ton of untapped potential.

 

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29. Tennessee Titans – Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame: The class of a weak positional group, Kmet should extend the Fighting Irish's strong tight end lineage. He projects as a more productive and versatile option than Jonnu Smith.
 

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I also do not get where this "rookie TEs take time" thing comes from. Recently highly drafted TEs have not struggled to at least contribute as rookies. The last one who flat out could not get on the field was Travis Kelce.

Most rookie TEs over the last couple of season, who were drafted high, produce somewhere around 50 targets, 36-37 catches, 400-500 yards, 3-5 TDs
 

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Kmet is a good athlete.

His 3 cone is pretty bad, but his 40 is more than fast enough and his vertical for his size is insane.

His hands are also massive. He will be whatever QB that we draft best friend for the next decade.

Mark Andrews had a very similar combine, his 3 cone was meh, and he seems to be balling out in the NFL.

There seems to be some skepticism about how good of an athlete Kmet is because he doesn't run as fast as a WR (4.5). I’ve heard a lot of Kyle Rudolph comparisons and he’s clearly more explosive.
 

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There seems to be some skepticism about how good of an athlete Kmet is because he doesn't run as fast as a WR (4.5). I’ve heard a lot of Kyle Rudolph comparisons and he’s clearly more explosive.

4.7 at 262lbs is fast.
37" vertical at 262lbs is insane.
10'3" broad at 262lbs is also not normal.
 

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Gronk

6'6"
264lbs.
34 1/4" arms
10 3/4" hands

4.68 [40]
33.5" vert
9'11" broad
DNP 3 cone
4.47 shuttle

Kmet

6'6"
262lbs.
33" arms
10.5" hands

4.7 [40]
37" vert
10'3" broad
7.44 3 cone
4.41 shuttle

He is a huge athlete.
 

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((I also do not get where this "rookie TEs take time")) thing comes from. Recently highly drafted TEs have not struggled to at least contribute as rookies. The last one who flat out could not get on the field was Travis Kelce.

Most rookie TEs over the last couple of season, who were drafted high, produce somewhere around 50 targets, 36-37 catches, 400-500 yards, 3-5 TDs
I always wondered this myself. The blocking takes time but they can contribute right away. Won't be 100% the player they will be but that is true for all rookies. He will be far and away better the 8 of our 9 TE's from day one.
 

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Judging a CB off of INTS is the biggest mistake fans tend to make when looking at DBs. As an example Jalen Ramsey had 3 his entire college career. Passer rating against is far more important.

I think you’re right as I said you can’t judge anything by highlights but I also watched their coverage styles and Diggs’s style looks better to me as he’s constantly keeping his eye on the qb. Plus Johnson’s injuries are a concern but he does look good that’s for sure.

Just don’t have time nor the footage to watch to make a better comparison. The Utes apparently have a few studs back there as I think three were drafted.

I have faith in pace defensive picks as they hit at a very high rate it’s the offensive players that rarely if ever pan out at skill positions
 

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Gronk

6'6"
264lbs.
34 1/4" arms
10 3/4" hands

4.68 [40]
33.5" vert
9'11" broad
DNP 3 cone
4.47 shuttle

Kmet

6'6"
262lbs.
33" arms
10.5" hands

4.7 [40]
37" vert
10'3" broad
7.44 3 cone
4.41 shuttle

He is a huge athlete.
Kellen Davis?

Will have more to do with how good he can apply that to football and he seems pretty good at it.
 

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If Kmet is playing the y for the most part then if his blocking is good which could use some more work but the effort and physicality is already there then he needs to only have 300-500 yards and a few tds to be effective as it will keep defenses on their heels bc they have two tight ends driving defenses nuts!
 

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4.7 at 262lbs is fast.
37" vertical at 262lbs is insane.
10'3" broad at 262lbs is also not normal.

Its all because of the 3 cone.

His 40 time, broad jump, and vertical for his size is very good.

3 cone would mean more if he was a runningback. Unless we are handing the ball off to him regularly he won't be making precise cuts enough to make it matter that much. 3 cone matters most for RB/CB.
 

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I always wondered this myself. The blocking takes time but they can contribute right away. Won't be 100% the player they will be but that is true for all rookies. He will be far and away better the 8 of our 9 TE's from day one.

cosches and gms are playing rookies much sooner these days as they should have for a long time now.

their athletic traits make up for some of the lack of skill and you get a much better return on your investment as well as finding out what you have in a player soonerrather than later.

I hope he becomes what we hope as he makes it easy to root for being a good kid, hard worker and local kid!
 

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i dont mind going TE but just dont like kmet. And i think one of those picks needed to be a qb. Does anyone really think that nick foles and mitch trubisky are going to be good?
 

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Anybody confident that Graham can get done in the U position?

Yes.

Greenbay used him like trash.

I watched a lot of GB tape to see what the issue was. Part of it most def was because he declined in athleticism and didn't run the same. A lot of it was due to the fact he was like the 3rd or 4th option on most plays.

A lot of plays I saw he was running routes to get davante adams open on either 9 routes down the seam or little rubs. He wasn't a heavy emphasis of the offense, which was weird, considering how much they paid him.

But hey...maybe they didn't use him as much because of his declining athleticism. Still makes no sense to me then, because you'd assume you'd run a different route tree for him.
 

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