Cubs expected to be interested in Juan Soto if available

[Discus fish salesman]

Soto for King and Thorpe from the Yankees. This seems like a smaller return than Morel and a top 10 for Soto.

Thorpe is a top 100 prospect and king has 2 straight very good years at the major league level. It's also expected there will be other included as well.

Previously you made it sound like Morel himself straight up would get it done then you moved to 1 pitcher like Ben brown or someone like that would get the deal done.

A top 100 prospect, a good cost controlled mlb pitcher, and 2 more prospects is certainly more than you made it sound like Soto would cost

 

[JP Hochbaum]

Thorpe is a top 100 prospect and king has 2 straight very good years at the major league level. It's also expected there will be other included as well.

Previously you made it sound like Morel himself straight up would get it done then you moved to 1 pitcher like Ben brown or someone like that would get the deal done.

A top 100 prospect, a good cost controlled mlb pitcher, and 2 more prospects is certainly more than you made it sound like Soto would cost

I didn't say anything. Just linked what was being reported.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I didn't say anything. Just linked what was being reported.

I think you posted one link in this entire thread after being asked for a link after making lots of wild trade assumptions

 

[JP Hochbaum]

I think you posted one link in this entire thread after being asked for a link after making lots of wild trade assumptions

Yes because it was the same source, lol

 

[bears5150]

Cubs are window shoppers again

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Cubs are window shoppers again

It's still early but could be another offseason of jed failing to get his targets

 

[Probie2429]

Cubs never had any business trading assets for a soon to be free agent.

 

[JP Hochbaum]

Cubs never had any business trading assets for a soon to be free agent.

Actually they kind of have to. They will have a lot more rule 5 eligible players next year that they need to trade away, promote to 40 man or lose. I think Glasnow makes sense for this. And if Glasnow walks we get a 2nd round pick as we do with Belli.

 

[knoxville7]

well, what did juan soto end up costing prospect wise? certainly was going to take more than morel and a minor league pitcher to get him.

cubs appear to be failing to get the headline guys they needed to get...pretty disappointing if all we end up with is rhys hoskins, matt chapman, and glasnow...and even those are up in the air

 

[Discus fish salesman]

well, what did juan soto end up costing prospect wise? certainly was going to take more than morel and a minor league pitcher to get him.

cubs appear to be failing to get the headline guys they needed to get...pretty disappointing if all we end up with is rhys hoskins, matt chapman, and glasnow...and even those are up in the air

Seems like a repetitive cycle with hoyer each offseason. Ricketts gives him the financial flexibility to get who he wants. Hoyer targets the top FAs, fails, then settles for leftovers. If he fails to get any of his top targets and the cubs miss the playoffs, does he even get the opportunity to miss on Soto again next offseason?

Also with the Japanese pitcher why are the cubs supposedly out because of his price tag while there are 7 other teams still in on him? There certainly aren't 7 other teams with more resources than the cubs

 

[knoxville7]

Seems like a repetitive cycle with hoyer each offseason. Ricketts gives him the financial flexibility to get who he wants. Hoyer targets the top FAs, fails, then settles for leftovers. If he fails to get any of his top targets and the cubs miss the playoffs, does he even get the opportunity to miss on Soto again next offseason?

Also with the Japanese pitcher why are the cubs supposedly out because of his price tag while there are 7 other teams still in on him? There certainly aren't 7 other teams with more resources than the cubs

agreed. they charge ticket prices like they are a team that spends in the top 5 every year, but they dont spend like a top 5 team resource wise. its frustrating as ****

 

[Probie2429]

Actually they kind of have to. They will have a lot more rule 5 eligible players next year that they need to trade away, promote to 40 man or lose. I think Glasnow makes sense for this. And if Glasnow walks we get a 2nd round pick as we do with Belli.

Rule 5 type players aren’t going to get Soto. You can lose those types all day every day and not even matter. Cubs aren’t knocking on the championship door just yet so they need to keep hoarding young talent not trade them away for guys that can walk as a FA after this year. If you want to get Soto, only way that makes sense is as a FA. They can start trading young assets when they at least make the playoffs a couple years in a row and need something to get over the hump.

 

[CSF77]

well, what did juan soto end up costing prospect wise? certainly was going to take more than morel and a minor league pitcher to get him.

cubs appear to be failing to get the headline guys they needed to get...pretty disappointing if all we end up with is rhys hoskins, matt chapman, and glasnow...and even those are up in the air

Top 100 SP

 

[CSF77]

For the second time before his 26th birthday, Juan Soto is on the move. The Yankees and Padres announced a trade sending Soto and fellow outfielder Trent Grisham from San Diego to the Bronx. The Friars receive five players — right-hander Michael King, top pitching prospect Drew Thorpe, right-handers Jhony Brito and Randy Vásquez, and catcher Kyle Higashioka — in return

 

[JP Hochbaum]

Rule 5 type players aren’t going to get Soto. You can lose those types all day every day and not even matter. Cubs aren’t knocking on the championship door just yet so they need to keep hoarding young talent not trade them away for guys that can walk as a FA after this year. If you want to get Soto, only way that makes sense is as a FA. They can start trading young assets when they at least make the playoffs a couple years in a row and need something to get over the hump.

I didn't say they would but you could use some of them.

 

[JP Hochbaum]

King as a trade chip is valued as 33.4
Morel was 23.8
Cade Horton is 34, and PCA 58, Steele 55
Soto at 23.2

So King and Horton are about equal value here.

To match what the Yanks gave, Cubs would have had to do Morel and about 34 points extra to match Yanks offer. Which would have cost Horton or combo of Alcantara and Wicks.

Right now they are declaring Padres the winner because of the massive overpay.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

King as a trade chip is valued as 33.4
Morel was 23.8
Cade Horton is 34, and PCA 58, Steele 55
Soto at 23.2

So King and Horton are about equal value here.

To match what the Yanks gave, Cubs would have had to do Morel and about 34 points extra to match Yanks offer. Which would have cost Horton or combo of Alcantara and Wicks.

Right now they are declaring Padres the winner because of the massive overpay.

Wow. I'm shocked Soto cost quite a bit as one of the top players in baseball

 

[knoxville7]

Top 100 SP

okay and?? he cant stay healthy and the cubs would likely have to overpay to acquire him anyways

 

[CSF77]

okay and?? he cant stay healthy and the cubs would likely have to overpay to acquire him anyways

That was not a quip .. I was just stating that a top 100 SP went.

I really thought Yanks 100%. That is why I didn't buy into the hype.

 

[CSF77]

Add to that I feel that Jed has always been focused on Ohtani first and Hoskins plus Chapman as plan B.

It should be plan A as Ohtani is not fixing some core issue right now. He is a upgrade to DH and might pitch again. But that is not a 100% thing.

As far as a starter goes I stopped caring. If they went as is and pushed Brown into the pen in April and stretched him out in Iowa in June it would be fine. Limit his innings in his first year. Then let Horton develop naturally