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Bless your heart, he ignored all thissorry i guess not reading the convo had me thinking you were talking about defense when you said needing a fantastic one. How about we settle for mediocre defense rather than dead last? The Bears offense was closer to middle of the Pack
Taking the 16th and 17th ranked point Os and Ds and averaging them out, this is what it comes out to.
21.44 O
21.76 D
That is directly down the middle of the league in point production.
Where the Bears stood
Bears O- 19.17
Bears D- 27.23
One of these isn't far from the median where as the other was not even close. It was dead last. You wouldn't have needed fantastic defense to overcome Fields "inefficiency", you would have needed anything resembling league average and if you even had that, it would result in a boost to offensive production. You would know this if you knew how football works.
Fields was 11th in the NFL in TDs scored. He did that with no WRs, no OL, the NFL worst defense that not only allowed the most PPG but the highest 3rd down conversion rate and the 3rd highest drive time average. Also it wasnt until the NE game(7th game) to where they finally incorporated designed QB runs which increased offense productivity and efficiency.
It was the absolute worst situation for a QB in the NFL and from a scoring points perspective, they ended up close to the middle all because of him.
But i guess not every QB can will their defense to #1 and #4 like Mitch did in '18 and '19. What a special talent!
Cant believe i just wrote an essay for a guy who doesnt even know ball and im certain is now committed to a bit. Anyways have a great Sunday!
Lol it was supposed to be a joke and was ruined by the usual suspects
@BaBaBlacksheep I alluded to this problem. you wield the power to fix it.Lol it was supposed to be a joke and was ruined by the usual suspects
I gave you the benefit of the doubt after Trubs but then you also caped for Jones. So sorry you are 100% incorrect. I am judging you based on how bad your QB evaluation skills are.I actually gave Fields the benefit of the doubt for most of his first year.. you know what happened? he played like shit.. that QB you like to trash was outplaying him by a country mile. I made that "did Pace pick the wrong QB again" thread almost half way through the year because again Fields played like ass and Jones didnt. My first post in that thread was spelling out that Fields could end up the better player but for evaluating Pace right at that point in time it was looking as a failure from pace again.
So sorry Remy you are 100% incorrect. I'm judging Fields on how bad he has played, he got a much shorter leash because of Pace but again his play has done nothing to point to the fact that Pace got lucky or change my mind. You want to put blind faith into a failure at evaluating the QB position go right ahead, I'm not, I will change my mind on him when his play actually dictates that I should
Well we don't all have the experience that you had playing flag football in college so I definitely will get things wrong from time to time..I gave you the benefit of the doubt after Trubs but then you also caped for Jones. So sorry you are 100% incorrect. I am judging you based on how bad your QB evaluation skills are.
And you are right. We should not put blind faith into a failure at evaluating the QB position. Hence why I put no faith in your analysis as you have in fact been a failure in evaluating the QB position. You are the Pace of CCS.
Most the way to 600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Well we don't all have the experience that you had playing flag football in college so I definitely will get things wrong from time to time..
But that's irrelevant because my comparison of Fields and Jones was at that point in time.. and it was 100% correct at that point in time so your logic is really lacking here Remy.
Well we don't all have the experience that you had playing flag football in college so I definitely will get things wrong from time to time..
But that's irrelevant because my comparison of Fields and Jones was at that point in time.. and it was 100% correct at that point in time so your logic is really lacking here Remy.
you're not this dumb so please just stop. Your whole argument is based on a thread that I created to go after Pace and Nagy, you know this, I literally said it several times in that thread. I dont care about Mac Jones, I used him because he was useful to attack Pace and thats it.No at that point in time people including me told you that Jones was benefiting from YAC and his play was not sustainable. We were right and you were wrong.
You clearly dont know how to account for the coaching and talent around a QB nor the complexity of the offense or what a QB is being asked to do.
All you are doing is making excuses for your failures all while refusing to understand the circumstances of others which makes you a bit of a hypocrite.
To make this simple let's revisit after this year. If Fields sucks then you get some credibility back. If Fields is good then you probably should retire from QB evaluation
you're not this dumb so please just stop. Your whole argument is based on a thread that I created to go after Pace and Nagy, you know this, I literally said it several times in that thread. I dont care about Mac Jones, I used him because he was useful to attack Pace and thats it.
Now it is amusing how upset the Fields nuthuggers get with the comparison they still bring it up today, and the funny thing is everyone rips on how Jones is as a passer.. and yet that terrible passer has outplayed Fields as a passer both years so kind of a stupid argument to make but whatever.
I did not fail in my evaluation in them because I evaluate them based on what they did at that point in time. I do not make any grand future predictions like Mitch or Jones are future hall of fame players. I evaluate in real time thats it nothing more.There is nothing more to discuss. You admitted already that people like you that have failed in QB evaluation before should not be trusted. You failed in your evaluation of Trubisky and Jones so by your own admission, nothing you say regarding QB evaluation can be trusted.
Sorry just applying the rules you came up with fairly ie to everyone including you. Let's revisit when you get one of these right.
Omg it’s preseason, time to end the season!!!I did not fail in my evaluation in them because I evaluate them based on what they did at that point in time. I do not make any grand future predictions like Mitch or Jones are future hall of fame players. I evaluate in real time thats it nothing more.
Paces job is to evaluate for the future.. thats not my job or what I did. All I have done with Fields is point out his weaknesses that he has shown every week and the most I have ever done with Fields is to say I have my doubts he can improve on those weaknesses but HOPE IM WRONG
also just for fun.. more of all of my complaints about him last year seem to still be here.. yes yes its preseason but it does not look good yet with him doing exactly the same things he did last year..
Omg it’s preseason, time to end the season!!!
Yes. I’m well aware of this. And I still don’t give a fuck. I tend to not make final decisions on 3 drives, 1 of which ended in a TD or FG.It's pretty bad if you watch it. Preseason or not Fields and Getsy shit the bed last week.
(Yes yes.... one game.... but also a very bad no good Bears QB type of game)
Who has made a final decision? I sure havent, If I had given up on Fields I would be calling for Bagent to start, which even I havent done that yet..Yes. I’m well aware of this. And I still don’t give a fuck. I tend to not make final decisions on 3 drives, 1 of which ended in a TD or FG.
Who is making a final decision?Yes. I’m well aware of this. And I still don’t give a fuck. I tend to not make final decisions on 3 drives, 1 of which ended in a TD or FG.
I really don’t care about the opinion of a QB commentator, one of which who ran out of the end zone in a regular season game and then made up a narrative that Fields was lazy. Did Fields suck Saturday? Yes. Was it just 3 drives? Yes. Do I give a shit? No.Who is making a final decision?
I did not fail in my evaluation in them because I evaluate them based on what they did at that point in time. I do not make any grand future predictions like Mitch or Jones are future hall of fame players. I evaluate in real time thats it nothing more.
Paces job is to evaluate for the future.. thats not my job or what I did. All I have done with Fields is point out his weaknesses that he has shown every week and the most I have ever done with Fields is to say I have my doubts he can improve on those weaknesses but HOPE IM WRONG
also just for fun.. more of all of my complaints about him last year seem to still be here.. yes yes its preseason but it does not look good yet with him doing exactly the same things he did last year..
I really don’t care about the opinion of a QB commentator, one of which who ran out of the end zone in a regular season game and then made up a narrative that Fields was lazy. Did Fields suck Saturday? Yes. Was it just 3 drives? Yes. Do I give a shit? No.
Everyone is just blowing this game out of proportion. Just like the Cleveland game last preseason.You seem oddly defensive about this but OK.