Do You think Fielder Is Coming To The Cubs?

Do You think Fielder Is Coming To The Cubs?


  • Total voters
    33
Status
Not open for further replies.

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
i'd like to have rizzo..you can definitely build a team around him..but i dont see him doing much in his first one or two years(other than defensively)...he's raw...and his batting and Ks tendencies dont help him imo
 

dabynsky

Fringe Average Mod
Donator
Joined:
May 17, 2010
Posts:
13,947
Liked Posts:
3,118
Okay...that was a fun read :lol:

If you guys need to call each other dumbasses and shit, please move it to the flame thread.

As for the Fielder situation...I think it'd make sense for the Brewers to just sign Carlos Pena for cheaper and let the Nats (don't really care if legitimate or not) try to sign him. Cubs could use the draft pick and they don't have a desperate need for Fielder given the apparent direction of the franchise.

Trades also don't have to revolve around Anthony Rizzo. Probably should prepare for Bryan LaHair at 1B *shudder* :lol:

I honestly don't mind him in a rebuild situation if the Cubs do their due dilligence (which by all reports they appear to be doing) to find a better option. If Fielder signs a 7 year+ deal, then I am okay with the Cubs not going that route. I would love to snag Rizzo or another near ready 1B that has upside, but if none make sense then I am okay with letting LaHair prove that he is not a AAAA player (that most likely he is). That said he appears to be plan F at this point which is a good thing.
 

waldo7239117

Driving Wreckless DA Best
Donator
Joined:
May 10, 2010
Posts:
11,225
Liked Posts:
788
I'd rather sign Derrek Lee to a 1 year deal for 2012. Don't wanna watch a fulll season with LaHair at 1B and would rather have the cubs bring a fan favorite back.
 

Rice Cube

World Series Dreaming
Donator
Joined:
Jun 7, 2011
Posts:
18,077
Liked Posts:
3,472
Location:
Chicago
Doubtful. Theo has a plan. Bryan LaHair isn't apart of the plan. At least in a starting sense.

Do we actually know what the plan is? Right now the apparent plan is "rebuild" but nobody knows the details because the Chicago media is reporting nothing because the Chicago front office is leaking next to nothing.
 

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
Which has nothing to do with power, as you had said.

it often correlates with power...you power hit(whether it be HRs or doubles) with people on base...you get RBIs

but obviously you can have plenty of RBIs without power....
 

dabynsky

Fringe Average Mod
Donator
Joined:
May 17, 2010
Posts:
13,947
Liked Posts:
3,118
it often correlates with power...you power hit(whether it be HRs or doubles) with people on base...you get RBIs

but obviously you can have plenty of RBIs without power....

But since it is a pretty weak correlation by your own admission how useful is it to measure the relative power of players?
 

Captain Obvious

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Jul 31, 2010
Posts:
4,967
Liked Posts:
697
Do we actually know what the plan is? Right now the apparent plan is "rebuild" but nobody knows the details because the Chicago media is reporting nothing because the Chicago front office is leaking next to nothing.

No, we don't know what the plan is. But Bryan LaHair isn't it lol. The only way I see LaHair starting is if we get Rizzo and start him in AAA. Or something of that nature.

what's the plan then?

I don't know.
 

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
But since it is a pretty weak correlation by your own admission how useful is it to measure the relative power of players?

when did i admit it was weak?

i just said that you can have RBIs without power...that doesnt mean RBIs completely dont correlate without HRs and doubles

for someone like howard or rizzo who get more RBIs off of power hits...i dont think its a bad evaluater of on-base power

now i dont know much about the minor league players they played with...so that could change things
 

dabynsky

Fringe Average Mod
Donator
Joined:
May 17, 2010
Posts:
13,947
Liked Posts:
3,118
when did i admit it was weak?

i just said that you can have RBIs without power...that doesnt mean RBIs completely dont correlate without HRs and doubles

for someone like howard or rizzo who get more RBIs off of power hits...i dont think its a bad evaluater of on-base power

now i dont know much about the minor league players they played with...so that could change thing

You admit in that very post there are significant factors outside of the power of the player that affect the number of rbi a player has at the end of the season. That at the very least means it isn't a strong correlation between power and RBI.
 

Rice Cube

World Series Dreaming
Donator
Joined:
Jun 7, 2011
Posts:
18,077
Liked Posts:
3,472
Location:
Chicago
No, we don't know what the plan is. But Bryan LaHair isn't it lol. The only way I see LaHair starting is if we get Rizzo and start him in AAA. Or something of that nature.



I don't know.

So if the Cubs don't acquire Fielder and don't trade for Rizzo, who would you have at 1B? Jeff Baker?
 

CODE_BLUE56

Ded
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Apr 18, 2010
Posts:
19,725
Liked Posts:
4,699
Location:
Texas
You admit in that very post there are significant factors outside of the power of the player that affect the number of rbi a player has at the end of the season. That at the very least means it isn't a strong correlation between power and RBI.

of course there are other factors..that doesnt mean there isnt a correlation....there's a relationship between HRs,OPS, and RBI...that's all im saying

i wouldnt classify it as weak...it partly depends on the hitter that is being evaluated....i think there's weight in it for guys like rizzo and howard

the minor league players around them could certainly change things...i really doubt that howard and rizzo's minor league teams were significantly different in getting on base..but i could be wrong...but without power...a guy like howard or rizzo is going to get few RBIS period
 
Last edited:

Captain Obvious

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Jul 31, 2010
Posts:
4,967
Liked Posts:
697
So if the Cubs don't acquire Fielder and don't trade for Rizzo, who would you have at 1B? Jeff Baker?

In that situation, LaHair. But I really really doubt that situation will occur. If it does, I see Theo getting someone else.
 

Rice Cube

World Series Dreaming
Donator
Joined:
Jun 7, 2011
Posts:
18,077
Liked Posts:
3,472
Location:
Chicago
In that situation, LaHair. But I really really doubt that situation will occur. If it does, I see Theo getting someone else.

I wish I had your clairvoyance because I don't really know what Theo is doing :lol:
 

dabynsky

Fringe Average Mod
Donator
Joined:
May 17, 2010
Posts:
13,947
Liked Posts:
3,118
In that situation, LaHair. But I really really doubt that situation will occur. If it does, I see Theo getting someone else.

I am hoping that his (Thed Hoystein) answer isn't LaRoache if the Nats do indeed get Fielder.
 

Rice Cube

World Series Dreaming
Donator
Joined:
Jun 7, 2011
Posts:
18,077
Liked Posts:
3,472
Location:
Chicago
Waldo suggested Derrek Lee above and it sort of makes sense to do it to get a few more butts in seats.
 

dabynsky

Fringe Average Mod
Donator
Joined:
May 17, 2010
Posts:
13,947
Liked Posts:
3,118
Waldo suggested Derrek Lee above and it sort of makes sense to do it to get a few more butts in seats.

I would rather prove LaHair is a AAAA player than go that route, but that is just me.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top