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Former Broncos GM says Bears finally are doing right by Jay Cutler
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I believe ESPN had reported the Bears were second in the league in scoring offense behind Green Bay, & eleventh in total offense through week 12 of that season. That would be an over achievement with the new offensive minded staff in my eyes. I'd be thrilled with that. I did want to see Martz given a fair shake at 2012 with a healthy QB, Forte & what I had hoped would also be an improved line. Even though Jays numbers were not through the roof, Martz did have him playing discipline, distributing the ball among all of his targets & forced him to work on his footwork. 2nd in scoring offense & 11th in total offense doesn't lie, Martz could have had this offense doing well with a healthy unit.
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No, not "THIS". Did the Bears win a Superbowl with that defense/running formula? Yes, they went to one, then they missed the playoffs for just about every season after that. Wanna guess the reason why? Piss-poor to average QB play. So you try and go get that "cherry on top" for your Sundae but you don't add sprinkles, whipped cream, and hot fudge. All you're left with is vanilla ice cream with a cherry on top.
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Is it any coincidence that Martz was probably the one coach Jay has had in Chicago that he actually trusted because he could coach?
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? Did he?
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Dnt shop and cook like J.A and you should be fine
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They worked well together
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He got canned ...
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Cutty didn't fire him...
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jay has done nothing to make himself a better Qb. He sure as hell doesn't take coaching. Tell us how jay has worked to improve himself over the years? IMO, he's same jay.....no improvement. What has he got good at...as a qb???
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Extending the play with his feet? What is this "he doesn't take coaching"? What proof is there of this? Arguing with his coach doesn't mean he doesn't take coaching. This shit is ridiculous.
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Dude.....jay was part of the reason Martz got LET GO. In the end........ quote Martz wasn't the right fit for jay UN-qoute. Remember? The one common thread with jay IS coaches get fired. Check the history.
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This is true and I don't blame Jay in any way for Martz departure. I wanted Martz for a third year, I thought it was mistake. But nobody knows about the relationship they had, but if it was good/really good, then why the did he not return for 3rd year?
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No he left because he and Lovie's style didn't work together. Don't pretend the offense wasn't doing well in 2011 during the run
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That one youtube clip is all I need to know that Jay hated Martz lol
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Yes & so did 2012 offseason savior of the Bears offense, who received most of the credit for the solid play on offense in 2011 going into 2012. After 2012 it's pretty damn clear who the mind was behind the good offensive play in 2011 when Cutler/Forte were healthy.
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Please find this quote. Lovie wanted Martz gone in the end and J.A never wanted him in the first place