Heyward to Cubs!

[CSF77]

I don't get the hate on Bryant either. Metrics showed he was above avg for a 3B. Add to it you got near 100 RBI's out of that bat with a OBP over .350.

You can knock it but the intelligent ones gave him ROY.

 

[CSF77]

Alsonot too many fat catchers anymore those days are long gone

 

[Parade_Rain]

I would not underestimate Schwarber. He's driven and coachable. I think he'll be fine in LF with some work and, even though I've never been high on his catching, he could probably play 30 games bend the plate if/when they need him. Probably when Montero goes.

I'm talking about late inning defense. He isn't going to be close to what Zobrist can do out there this season in the late innings.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I'm talking about late inning defense. He isn't going to be close to what Zobrist can do out there this season in the late innings.

Oh absolutely. There will be a lot of mixing and matching late.

 

[CSF77]

Teams tend to tighten the D late inning if they have the lead.

I see that as reason to keep Coghlan and Baez. Not so much losing all O by putting Szczur out there.

 

[CSF77]

So was looking up some stuff.

So how would Matt Moore for Baez sound?

 

[DanTown]

So was looking up some stuff.

So how would Matt Moore for Baez sound?

I don't get the deal from the Cubs end. Where you pitching Moore and with what role?

 

[CSF77]

I don't get the deal from the Cubs end. Where you pitching Moore and with what role?

Post T.J. Work back to a starter

 

[DanTown]

Post T.J. Work back to a starter

Ok, but tell me besides name why he's that much better than Warren, Hendricks, etc? Moore is a guy who drastically outpitched his FIP in his one good year (FIP was 3.89 pre-TJ) and by trading Baez for him, you're paying for the fact he does rebound when there's a great chance he was never that great of a pitcher.

I have no problem trading for Moore but paying Baez for him is just an overpay of where Moore. Especially if he's at best your #4. And I'm not even sure he's better than Adam Warren.

 

[Parade_Rain]

You don't bench that bat.

You don't bench Soler's either, but with a lead in late innings defensive replacements are fine.

 

[beckdawg]

I don't get the deal from the Cubs end. Where you pitching Moore and with what role?

I didn't really like Moore from a numbers standpoint pre-injury. Think there's others on their staff i'd rather have.

 

[CSF77]

I didn't really like Moore from a numbers standpoint pre-injury. Think there's others on their staff i'd rather have.

I could see that. They have a few good arms over there.

 

[CSF77]

You don't bench Soler's either, but with a lead in late innings defensive replacements are fine.

They don't need to bench anyone. Most likely they use Baez to keep the parts moving if they don't trade him.

162 games is a long season.

The best method is to bring in quality OF coaches and work on Schwarber and Soler's D. All 3 should have strong arms. I would scrap the catcher crap and focus him on being a LF. That is where his AB's will be at. At most he gets 50 as a catcher and that is doubtful.

 

[chibears55]

As it looks right now, their bench isn't that great offensively

C. Ross
IF Lastella
IF Baez
OF Coghlan
OF Sczur

So, i cant see Maddon switching out 2 OFers defensively late only cause they will lose a lot offensively if game ends up tied and in extras..
And i also think he will hold onto Cogs as long as he can on bench as he as of now is best hitter and power threat ..

Hopefully Baez has a relatively easy time adjusting to and learning the OF

 

[Grizzly]

As it looks right now, their bench isn't that great offensively

C. Ross
IF Lastella
IF Baez
OF Coghlan
OF Sczur

So, i cant see Maddon switching out 2 OFers defensively late only cause they will lose a lot offensively if game ends up tied and in extras..
And i also think he will hold onto Cogs as long as he can on bench as he as of now is best hitter and power threat ..

Hopefully Baez has a relatively easy time adjusting to and learning the OF

What's that bench going to look like if they trade Baez or Soler for a young pitcher?
Starts looking kind of thin.

 

[chibears55]

What's that bench going to look like if they trade Baez or Soler for a young pitcher?
Starts looking kind of thin.

Be the same if they trade Soler, they just would need to find a defensive oriented CFer who can hold his own offensively. .

im just wondering if anything was said from either Heyward or management about Heyward playing CF or RF before an agreement was made to get him to sign here. .

I think maybe they wait til deadline to add that pitcher..
They still got a ton of prospects in system and may be able to grab one then that becomes available. ..

 

[CSF77]

If money was not a issue, they should resign Fowler. I don't see that as a option as it would be swapping Fowler for Soler in essence. D would be a push. Production. Not sure. Fowler was the better last year. I doubt that will carry over to this year.

So I feel they should hold the deck. Let the 4 guys compete for the 2 rotation spots.

i have a hard time believing they will be better by losing Soler.

Baez is another story as he is not a starter. They could go for a depth approach. Ross, LaStella, guy they got from NY, Coghlan then get another depth piece from the Baez trade.

Still I see it as they could let them battle it out and who knows both Hendricks and Hammel lose. At that point I question Hendricks taking a BP spot over Ramirez

 

[Bear Pride]

You don't bench that bat.

You do, and I said this before. Baez and Russell is the the Cubs best defensive middle infield. Zobrists abilty to replace Kyle in LF at the end od games is a major defensive plus for the Cubs. The idea is to make this move after the Cubs are up, not when you need Kyle's bat, or Joe will make another move. The flexibility is the key!

 

[Bear Pride]

Be the same if they trade Soler, they just would need to find a defensive oriented CFer who can hold his own offensively. .

im just wondering if anything was said from either Heyward or management about Heyward playing CF or RF before an agreement was made to get him to sign here. .

I think maybe they wait til deadline to add that pitcher..
They still got a ton of prospects in system and may be able to grab one then that becomes available. ..

Enter the rumor on Inciarte .......

 

[DanTown]

Enter the rumor on Inciarte .......

Soler for Inciarte doesn't do a lot for me. While I get the value of Inciarte, he's a 3 WAR guy to me. That's great and all and he potentially fits in CF but Soler could be a 4-5 WAR guy if he ever puts a little bit together (he has incredibly high line drive rates plus high medium/hard rate but rarely hit HR last year since his hard hits were almost exclusively line drives instead of fly balls). Soler is so good at things you can't teach that giving up on him at such a young age with so many years left for a low ceiling guy like Inciarte doesn't sound that appealing.