Heyward to Cubs!

[85Bears]

Spray chart of every base hit Jason Heyward has had since being called up in 2010:

 

[SilenceS]

First time in history multiple Cardinals leave for the Cubs in one off season.

 

[brett05]

What? You have nailed what? You did not predict any of these signings and you def. said big name FA's don't want to come to Chicago.

I gave the cost of pitching, I was the only one right. I gave the cost of Fernandez and that it would start with Bryant. Given what is being asked, it looks like I underestimated the cost of Fernandez (the only one, wait, I think TC might have been in on it too). I did say Price did not want to be a Cub, that it was only an example during the season and I was right. I did say that no one is giving the Cubs a discount and unless it's proven that Heyward did, it would seem correct. And even if correct, I miss, what one guy? How can you say I haven't?

 

[TC in Mississippi]

If you guys have the day off or are bored, get your popcorn ready and just read here: https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

I want to see the Cubs blow the roof off this offseason and trade for Chris Archer or Sonny Gray. Not sure how realistic that is, but they are already in talks with the Rays regarding Baez, the Cubs have a few high end prospects that are blocked for the next 8 years, so they should make use of their value and get Archer, who IMO has the best contract in baseball.

Dear lord that's some ugly shit. It makes me happy.

 

[beckdawg]

I'm not fully versed on this stuff but won't they get one back when Fowler signs somewhere?

Cubs basically give their #1 pick(#27) to the cards and if they don't re-sign Fowler that pick associated with him goes to the cards too. They then keep their #2 pick. If they do re-sign Folwer for whatever reason the cards get the cubs #2 pick.

 

[brett05]

True, but Cubs will also get a pick from Fowler walking so they will replace a pick in between rounds there

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on who signs him.

 

[Diehardfan]

Baez swing is still way too complicated. Soler has better chance of success, imho. As soon as he starts putting a little more air under those LD, people will see. His swin is more simplified and he has a better eye at the plate...as of post-DL 2015 season.

I agree, plus I was really impressed the way Soler stepped up on the big stage in October.

 

[beckdawg]

Gordon Wittenmyer
‏@GDubCub
Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.

 

[SilenceS]

I gave the cost of pitching, I was the only one right. I gave the cost of Fernandez and that it would start with Bryant. Given what is being asked, it looks like I underestimated the cost of Fernandez (the only one, wait, I think TC might have been in on it too). I did say Price did not want to be a Cub, that it was only an example during the season and I was right. I did say that no one is giving the Cubs a discount and unless it's proven that Heyward did, it would seem correct. And even if correct, I miss, what one guy? How can you say I haven't?

What did I just read? Price went to the highest bidder. Cubs didn't offer him the highest bid. Fernandez was going to cost someone half their team. Cost of pitching? Pitchers have signed for about what everyone was saying. Its being reported that Heyward took almost 20 million less to be a Cub. In fact, you said he would a 20% increase to come here. What are you even talking about?

 

[brett05]

What did I just read? Price went to the highest bidder. Cubs didn't offer him the highest bid. Fernandez was going to cost someone half their team. Cost of pitching? Pitchers have signed for about what everyone was saying. Its being reported that Heyward took almost 20 million less to be a Cub. In fact, you said he would a 20% increase to come here. What are you even talking about?

Pitchers have gotten more. Price tok no discount to go to the Cubs. If proven I said Heyward would be one that took less, I agree. I did say he'd need 20% more to play CF.

 

[DanTown]

Baez swing is still way too complicated. Soler has better chance of success, imho. As soon as he starts putting a little more air under those LD, people will see. His swin is more simplified and he has a better eye at the plate...as of post-DL 2015 season.

Guys like Soler eventually figure it out and then they become superstar hitters. I get the Baez thing but he's a HR guy where as Soler is a potential all-around hitter like the best in the league. I think it's remote he gets there but would it surpirse anyone if he goes like .300/.375/.500 and has numbers around the best on this team? The way he hits the ball just gives me so much pause to trade a bat like that, even for legit pitching.

 

[brett05]

Gordon Wittenmyer
‏@GDubCub
Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.

If true, that's what $23 million per for 8 or the 20% bump to play CF and he gets to be a FA sooner to cash in. Pretty neat.

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL. brett is a terrible sports poster.

 

[DanTown]

Cubs basically give their #1 pick(#27) to the cards and if they don't re-sign Fowler that pick associated with him goes to the cards too. They then keep their #2 pick. If they do re-sign Folwer for whatever reason the cards get the cubs #2 pick.

Stop saying this, you don't give picks to teams any more, you simply get a compensatory pick.

Teams that sign free agents who turned down qualifying offers must then forfeit their first available pick in the next MLB draft. The forfeited picks don't go to other MLB teams; rather, the rounds just become condensed. The player's former team obtains one compensatory selection at the end of the first round, even if the team sacrificing a pick gave up a pick later than a first.

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/11/3/7152673/mlb-qualifying-offers-rules-compensation-free-agency

 

[beckdawg]

Stop saying this, you don't give picks to teams any more, you simply get a compensatory pick.

Teams that sign free agents who turned down qualifying offers must then forfeit their first available pick in the next MLB draft. The forfeited picks don't go to other MLB teams; rather, the rounds just become condensed. The player's former team obtains one compensatory selection at the end of the first round, even if the team sacrificing a pick gave up a pick later than a first.

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/11/3/7152673/mlb-qualifying-offers-rules-compensation-free-agency

Sorry, you're right. I meant it the way you were saying but didn't clearly say what I meant.

 

[SilenceS]

If true, that's what $23 million per for 8 or the 20% bump to play CF and he gets to be a FA sooner to cash in. Pretty neat.

 

[beckdawg]

If true, that's what $23 million per for 8 or the 20% bump to play CF and he gets to be a FA sooner to cash in. Pretty neat.

It's not a bad deal but a lot still depends on the structure. I mean I'm happy regardless but I'd prefer if it were set up in such a way that you're not giving a ton of money before he possibly gets an opt-out clause. For example, if you pay him $25 mil/season for 3 years and then he opts out that would sorta suck.

 

[czman]

If you guys have the day off or are bored, get your popcorn ready and just read here: https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis

Wow, they are mad.

My favorite so far:
Go **** your own asshole with a cactus you ***** ass *****

 

[chibears55]

@GDubCub: Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.

Just wondering if some of you came back off the ledge yet...

they added Championship caliber players and have only lost 1 key player (Castro) from the core group of 2015

#Cubs #LetsGo #onegoal

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[FrankieLyrical]

See I'd go the other way. I think Baez has raised his floor and their ceilings are at least equal with Baez maybe a tick above, plus he can play any position but catch and pitch.

Baez does have a lot potential, but I really like Soler's plate discipline and he doesn't have quite the hole in his swing that Baez has shown