I know why i got fat.

[Warrior Spirit]

Interesting new study done on omega 3 fatty acids...



https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD003177.pub3/full

I saw this recently and also another similar earlier in the year, both of which are simply studies or a meta-analyses of previous studies that not only don't look at very key intangibles such as dosage taken or level of omega 3 fatty acids in the body but seem to be meant to undermine the many other benefits of omega 3s as well. And how long term is 12-72 months when speaking of a lifetime effect? The article even points out the fact these were participants who increased omega‐3 fats, or maintained their usual fats for at least a year. How much of a lifetime effect can you expect from 1 or even a few years of supplementation and/or an increase in omega 3 food sources? And, again, that's supplementation for not only a relatively very short amount of time but with no control of the dosage or quality of the supplement itself. You can get fish oil supplements in a dollar store but I don't know what sane person would believe they'd derive much benefit from it. Other studies in the past that did include a higher dosage of 1800mg of Omega 3 fatty acids per day did show a modest, but statistically significant difference compared to this study, 9-20% decrease in cardiovascular disease.

Another thing skewing this study greatly is the fact they say participants were taken from several different rich countries. As we know, there's a very big difference in diets from country to country. How many participants, for example, come from Japan where people have more healthy diets rich in Omega3s as compared to the US diet that is rich in meat from cows raised primarily on grain in feedlots? Are we to believe the US diet, in which there is a high level of obesity and lesser quality of life as we age, is as healthy as the Japanese diet, in which there is a very low level of obesity and greater quality of life as they age? To take such a study as this to heart, that's exactly what you'd have to believe.

 

[Mitchapalooza]

Been sick for over a week and it's a blessing. Lost about 5 lbs in a week because I can barely eat. Home scale says im 170.0, gym scale shows 175.0 so who knows which is right. probably right in the middle of both at like 172.5

 

[AussieBear]

Or one narcissist taking to himself...

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while duh spartan can be a smart man and see duh life n duh conspiracies, we be is too different mang. i aint got the ewarrior spirit nor any incentives to take two accts over 10k posts. hell, im still waiting fer me official alt... alting meself aint no funs.

anyway...

dunno if i can make day 2 workout already. while i thought i was coasting day 1, waking up day two....., apparently me legs think otherwise . if anything, id thought me shoulders would be a lil stiff, but its the legs.. guess thats what happens when they gotta carry DA LOAD. will see how it goes... may just ibuprofen up, stretch, get em warm and see how they react. i was wanting to do three days straight before taking a day off cause i gotta do some training at duh work day 4.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Been sick for over a week and it's a blessing. Lost about 5 lbs in a week because I can barely eat. Home scale says im 170.0, gym scale shows 175.0 so who knows which is right. probably right in the middle of both at like 172.5

Congrats on the weight loss... and being sick... I guess.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

while duh spartan can be a smart man and see duh life n duh conspiracies, we be is too different mang. i aint got the ewarrior spirit nor any incentives to take two alts over 10k posts. hell, im still waiting fer me official alt... alting meself aint no funs.

anyway...

dunno if i can make day 2 workout already. while i thought i was coasting day 1, waking up day two....., apparently me legs think otherwise . if anything, id thought me shoulders would be a lil stiff, but its the legs.. guess thats what happens when they gotta carry DA LOAD. will see how it goes... may just ibuprofen up, stretch, get em warm and see how they react. i was wanting to do three days straight before taking a day off cause i gotta do some training at duh work day 4.

What is my other alt suppose to be, fella? I truly just be posting with this one.

As you go into this second stage of weight losing, you should put more focus on the diet and how and where you're going to cut the calories. That is where the weight loss is going to come from. Even though not being up for the 2nd day workout can be discouraging and a setback, once you realize how much more important the diet is, you won't see missing a workout here and there as such a major setback. It's the calories you want to cut first along with abstaining from the sugar and its fake substitutes. As for working out, it would be more beneficial to start off light, possibly just some 2 or 3 mile walks for the first week or so and then add a little here and there. It's not something you need to invest a lot of time into, just something that keeps you moving and headed in the right direction.

We're all different and we're all the same. Think about it. It's a thinker.

 

[Mitchapalooza]

Congrats on the weight loss... and being sick... I guess.

Lol I mean it's just a positive of being sick. Felt like shit but might as well look at the positives

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Lol I mean it's just a positive of being sick. Felt like shit but might as well look at the positives

You don't have to get sick in order to fast for prolonged periods. Man can go without food for months and fasting has been used as a way of overcoming illness and even preventing it. So, next time, you don't have to wait til you're sick and can't eat for days to lose weight. Simply call on your inner warrior spirit and fast for 72 hours or so.

 

[Mitchapalooza]

You don't have to get sick in order to fast for prolonged periods. Man can go without food for months and fasting has been used as a way of overcoming illness and even preventing it. So, next time, you don't have to wait til you're sick and can't eat for days to lose weight. Simply call on your inner warrior spirit and fast for 72 hours or so.

Man can only survive for ~3 weeks, maybe 4 without food.

And what do you mean, I'm just saying I randomly got sick and the only benefit was that I lost a few pounds. Not like I did it on purpose lol.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Man can only survive for ~3 weeks, maybe 4 without food.

And what do you mean, I'm just saying I randomly got sick and the only benefit was that I lost a few pounds. Not like I did it on purpose lol.

That, sir, is an outright lie. In fact the world record for fasting is 382 days although that man took vitamin supplements. David Blaine also once did a 44 day fast with no supplements in public view.


Long term fasting of 30 days and such is currently done by many as long term fasting is viewed as a healthy alternative way of life.

 

[AussieBear]

What is my other alt suppose to be, fella? I truly just be posting with this one.

As you go into this second stage of weight losing, you should put more focus on the diet and how and where you're going to cut the calories. That is where the weight loss is going to come from. Even though not being up for the 2nd day workout can be discouraging and a setback, once you realize how much more important the diet is, you won't see missing a workout here and there as such a major setback. It's the calories you want to cut first along with abstaining from the sugar and its fake substitutes. As for working out, it would be more beneficial to start off light, possibly just some 2 or 3 mile walks for the first week or so and then add a little here and there. It's not something you need to invest a lot of time into, just something that keeps you moving and headed in the right direction.

We're all different and we're all the same. Think about it. It's a thinker.

i know ur other alts.. but it is not the I, that be saying you and I are the same perp //////0\\\\\\\

i did start out light.. maybe a lil too many squats for day one though..... but it was light overall imo..

i dont need to cut calories on me menu.. just need to eat me menu.. may only eat 4-5 times today cause i doubled me breakfast to up me proteins... my menus plan be flexible.

100g oats, an apple n a 4 egg spinach omelet wiff a lil cheese.
got roo chili, veg n brown rice on tap for meals 2 n 4 ...
spinach salad n tuna fer more protein
n me pea protein shake..

will put me around 160-170g protein fer duh day.. higher than me avg... i aint into u need a gram per litre of piss or whatever.. normally i hit 120-140 n im cool with dat..

 

[Mitchapalooza]

That, sir, is an outright lie. In fact the world record for fasting is 382 days although that man took vitamin supplements. David Blaine also once did a 44 day fast with no supplements in public view.


Long term fasting of 30 days and such is currently done by many as long term fasting is viewed as a healthy alternative way of life.

Define fasting. Some people "fast" but still eat the last few hours of the day. If you mean literally eating 0 food then no you'll die within on average 3 to 4 weeks. You said months which just isn't true.

And like David Blaine im sure some people might be able to do a little longer than average but it's not the norm.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Define fasting. Some people "fast" but still eat the last few hours of the day. If you mean literally eating 0 food then no you'll die within on average 3 to 4 weeks. You said months which just isn't true.

And like David Blaine im sure some people might be able to do a little longer than average but it's not the norm.

Fasting is no food, only water. 36-72 hour fasts have become commonplace. And nothing magical or special about Blaine. Anybody can do what he did. In the 80s there was an IRA officer who went on a hunger strike to protest the IRA members being incarcerated in England. He took no food and little water. Died on the 66th day. Another IRA member also striking lasted about a week longer.

There are now a lot of people doing long term fasting for health benefits. There's a lot doing it just to lose weight as well. Search on youtube and you'll find many claiming 30 day fasts and showing the results. Some fringe groups popping up as well that are all about long term fasts and set up centers for people to check into and be monitored while they go through several weeks of fasting. Have the sun gazers who claim after you reach a certain point of gazing at the sun you can feed off its energy and never eat. Many claims among them of fellow sun gazers going months and 1 sun gazing guru going over a year without eating. I can only point to the ones that were monitored but who knows how long some can go. I'm just certain it's more than 3-4 weeks.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

i know ur other alts.. but it is not the I, that be saying you and I are the same perp //////0\\\\\\\

i did start out light.. maybe a lil too many squats for day one though..... but it was light overall imo..

i dont need to cut calories on me menu.. just need to eat me menu.. may only eat 4-5 times today cause i doubled me breakfast to up me proteins... my menus plan be flexible.

100g oats, an apple n a 4 egg spinach omelet wiff a lil cheese.
got roo chili, veg n brown rice on tap for meals 2 n 4 ...
spinach salad n tuna fer more protein
n me pea protein shake..

will put me around 160-170g protein fer duh day.. higher than me avg... i aint into u need a gram per litre of piss or whatever.. normally i hit 120-140 n im cool with dat..

That breakfast looks both calorie and carb heavy. I'd say 900 calories and over 80g carbs. 2 servings of brown rice another +80 carbs. I would cut out the oats and brown rice and just have more veggies in their place.

 

[AussieBear]

That breakfast looks both calorie and carb heavy. I'd say 900 calories and over 80g carbs. 2 servings of brown rice another +80 carbs. I would cut out the oats and brown rice and just have more veggies in their place.

carbs were 56 from duh oats.. n yea almost 900 cals... normally i save that second meal for after me workout... but legs be sore as **** n decided to call today off.. small apple.. cored n diced.. about 807 cals.. no oil/butter...

then about 700 cals fer meals 2, 3 and 4 combined putting me at roughly 1507 then me pea powder/oil drank... will bring me up to bouts 1800.. don't wanna go lower than 1800.. some days ill drop to 1600 if i know i got a cheat refeed coming that week..

23 grams carb in 100g of brown rice.. will eat about 150g cut into two meals. between oats n rice dats roughly 90g..... rest of me carbs in eggs/veg/fruit be minimals today..

 

[Adipost]

I saw this recently and also another similar earlier in the year, both of which are simply studies or a meta-analyses of previous studies that not only don't look at very key intangibles such as dosage taken or level of omega 3 fatty acids in the body but seem to be meant to undermine the many other benefits of omega 3s as well. And how long term is 12-72 months when speaking of a lifetime effect? The article even points out the fact these were participants who increased omega‐3 fats, or maintained their usual fats for at least a year. How much of a lifetime effect can you expect from 1 or even a few years of supplementation and/or an increase in omega 3 food sources? And, again, that's supplementation for not only a relatively very short amount of time but with no control of the dosage or quality of the supplement itself. You can get fish oil supplements in a dollar store but I don't know what sane person would believe they'd derive much benefit from it. Other studies in the past that did include a higher dosage of 1800mg of Omega 3 fatty acids per day did show a modest, but statistically significant difference compared to this study, 9-20% decrease in cardiovascular disease.

Another thing skewing this study greatly is the fact they say participants were taken from several different rich countries. As we know, there's a very big difference in diets from country to country. How many participants, for example, come from Japan where people have more healthy diets rich in Omega3s as compared to the US diet that is rich in meat from cows raised primarily on grain in feedlots? Are we to believe the US diet, in which there is a high level of obesity and lesser quality of life as we age, is as healthy as the Japanese diet, in which there is a very low level of obesity and greater quality of life as they age? To take such a study as this to heart, that's exactly what you'd have to believe.

This is obviously an outlier, and I don’t put much credence in it myself. I just thought it was interesting. I think omega 3’s are beneficial for a number of things, but this study mostly focused only on heart health, which is supposed to be the main benefit of omega 3’s. And I don’t think it matters where people were from, because pretty much nobody added any heart benefits. (Not that there aren’t other benefits to Omega 3’s)

Funny how quickly you poke holes in it, though, yet you stand by an outlier and asinine artificial sweetener study done on mice with no logical science behind it whatsoever wholly dismissed by chemists.

This omega 3 study is at least somewhat credible compared to that sham gut study you completely bought and made the basis of your entire argument on.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

This is obviously an outlier, and I don’t put much credence in it myself. I just thought it was interesting. Funny how quickly you poke holes in it, though, yet you stand by an outlier and asinine artificial sweetener study done on mice with no logical science behind it whatsoever.

I poked holes in it because there were so many there just begging to be poked. And I did not stand by an outlier and artificial sweetener study done on mice w/no science. I stood by a plethora of studies that showed the correlation between artificial sweeteners and weight gain while also already knowing these unnatural chemical poisons to be obviously hazardous for humans.

Even if one study here or there about these artificial sweeteners seems a bit off, who cares? We already know what's in them to be toxic or just real bad for human consumption to begin with. With Aspartame, you have Phenylalanine, an amino acid that is harmful when taken in excess. There's even a medical condition known as PKU that is an overabundance of phenylalanine because the body is unable to process it and so it poisons the brain and has been clinically linked to depression, memory and other cognitive issues. The aspartic acid also stimulates the neurons to such an extent, it kills off brain cells... which may explain why people like you still advocate for these poisonous artificial sweeteners. Also contains Methanol for all you fans of ingesting the known poison that converts to formaldehyde in the body. Then there's Sucralose which is only like a molecule away from actual sugar so people figure not so bad.... unless you value the good bacteria in your gut of which this artificial sweetener will kill 50% of. This good bacteria is the thing that actually regulates your digestion and you want to **** it up for what? Cause it saves you some calories? Very stupid. And that zero calorie poison is still known to cause a spike in plasma glucose and a spike in insulin. Then there's saccharin which tastes like shit anyways so why would anyone use it? It's a derivative of coal tar ffs. It's made up of crap like chlorine and ammonia. Also known to negatively affect gut bacteria although not to the same extreme Sucralose does. Also harms the liver and causes inflammation in the body. You'd have to be a damned fool to defend any of this crap under any circumstance.

 

[Adipost]

I poked holes in it because there were so many there just begging to be poked. And I did not stand by an outlier and artificial sweetener study done on mice w/no science. I stood by a plethora of studies that showed the correlation between artificial sweeteners and weight gain while also already knowing these unnatural chemical poisons to be obviously hazardous for humans.

Even if one study here or there about these artificial sweeteners seems a bit off, who cares? We already know what's in them to be toxic or just real bad for human consumption to begin with. With Aspartame, you have Phenylalanine, an amino acid that is harmful when taken in excess. There's even a medical condition known as PKU that is an overabundance of phenylalanine because the body is unable to process it and so it poisons the brain and has been clinically linked to depression, memory and other cognitive issues. The aspartic acid also stimulates the neurons to such an extent, it kills off brain cells... which may explain why people like you still advocate for these poisonous artificial sweeteners. Also contains Methanol for all you fans of ingesting the known poison that converts to formaldehyde in the body. Then there's Sucralose which is only like a molecule away from actual sugar so people figure not so bad.... unless you value the good bacteria in your gut of which this artificial sweetener will kill 50% of. This good bacteria is the thing that actually regulates your digestion and you want to **** it up for what? Cause it saves you some calories? Very stupid. And that zero calorie poison is still known to cause a spike in plasma glucose and a spike in insulin. Then there's saccharin which tastes like shit anyways so why would anyone use it? It's a derivative of coal tar ffs. It's made up of crap like chlorine and ammonia. Also known to negatively affect gut bacteria although not to the same extreme Sucralose does. Also harms the liver and causes inflammation in the body. You'd have to be a damned fool to defend any of this crap under any circumstance.

Gish Gallop is a technique, named after the creationist Duane Gish who employed it, whereby someone argues a cause by hurling as many different half-truths and no-truths into a very short space of time so that their opponent cannot hope to combat each point in real time. This leaves some points unanswered and allows the original speaker to try and claim his opponent lacks the counter-arguments.

The gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority, as it appears to paint the “galloper” as an expert in a broad range of subjects […]
It is often successfully combined with the “point refuted a thousand times” (PRATT). The gallop must consist of as many points as possible, and even old and worn out arguments are useful in overwhelming the respondent and bamboozling the audience. The technique also takes advantage of the one single proof fallacy, since if a respondent only manages to refute 99 out of 100 points there is still one point that proves the galloper correct.

A Gish Gallop tries to create the illusion of authority and an incredible weight of evidence by sheer quantity alone, without any quality to back it up. To supporters, the illusion works, but those who disagree with the Galloper’s points often find the amount of repetitive assertions and non-explanations offered tedious to deal with.

 

[AussieBear]

day 3.. woke to flu.. wtf.. be explains why me legs were extra sore yesterday.. da kid been sick the last few days n i thought i got by without getting it.. not a good start to me early start.

maybe ill get some roquan mental reps in or somein

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Gish Gallop is a technique, named after the creationist Duane Gish who employed it, whereby someone argues a cause by hurling as many different half-truths and no-truths into a very short space of time so that their opponent cannot hope to combat each point in real time. This leaves some points unanswered and allows the original speaker to try and claim his opponent lacks the counter-arguments.

The gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority, as it appears to paint the “galloper” as an expert in a broad range of subjects […]
It is often successfully combined with the “point refuted a thousand times” (PRATT). The gallop must consist of as many points as possible, and even old and worn out arguments are useful in overwhelming the respondent and bamboozling the audience. The technique also takes advantage of the one single proof fallacy, since if a respondent only manages to refute 99 out of 100 points there is still one point that proves the galloper correct.

A Gish Gallop tries to create the illusion of authority and an incredible weight of evidence by sheer quantity alone, without any quality to back it up. To supporters, the illusion works, but those who disagree with the Galloper’s points often find the amount of repetitive assertions and non-explanations offered tedious to deal with.

Way to deflect and, really, ya had to cause I didn't say anything that wasn't factual and observable. You may call plain facts and that which has been observed half truths but that's just cause you're in denial and desperate.

So easily blowing off this last Adi post as the trite whiny bs it is, I'll just take the opportunity to segue into why the FDA would approve this kind of crap and really how every level of our government works in union with these big companies at the expense of the clueless public and for the own good of those public officials in positions of authority. Specifically, I'll look at how Aspartame was approved in the beginning despite objections by those who had already studied it. This will also go to show why you should pay no attention to studies performed by the very entities who stand to profit in any way from that which is being studied.

G.D. Searle was the company pushing the FDA for the ok on aspartame with their nutrasweet shit. They used their own studies to try to sell it to the FDA and their studies were found to be sloppy with numerous errors. Yet even after recognizing that fact and hearing objections from other sources, the Commissioner of the FDA, Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr., approved the use of aspartame. He then left the FDA for a position with G.D. Searle's public relations firm. See how that works? Adi won't but some might and I say only some cause I've seen so many others who post here unable to put 2 and 2 together when pointing out the same type of thing with known bogus vaccine studies by Merck that were supported by CDC prior to the CDC Director taking a high paying position with them. So I do realize there is a very high level of ignorance, denial and outright stupidity with people who have been manipulated by the lies of the very people selling them the BS. To close this out, G.D. Searle later merged with the "**** your health, it's all about more money for us" Monsanto company.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

day 3.. woke to flu.. wtf.. be explains why me legs were extra sore yesterday.. da kid been sick the last few days n i thought i got by without getting it.. not a good start to me early start.

maybe ill get some roquan mental reps in or somein

Not to worry, old chum, this is where the Mitchapalooza "being sick is good for weight loss" theory kicks in. On target!!