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My avatar is a picture of me at my current weight. I used to weight 321. I’m 5’10” to put it in perspective.
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Good job!:buttrock:
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Having a heart attack at work can be motivational:lol:
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as long as it aint 100% muscle im cool...
day 4 even sicker.. sick enough to where i be had to reschedule me work training shit too.. im tried of these fucking pharmaceuticals seeding the population with they bugs every year.. Fucking cunts, i aint buying they bs pills or taking they flu shots...
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Pharmaceuticals won't help ya. I had flu a while ago for the first time I can remember and got rid of it within 48 hours by supplementing extra vitamin C and zinc and taking in a lot of onions and garlic. People like to downplay vitamin supplements saying they do nothing but it's when you're sick when your body gets depleted of its nutrients that you'll notice how much they really do help. Onions have been used for centuries to speed the healing process from the flu and colds. Not only do they contain vitamin C but, for me, helped a lot with the congestion. I just chewed on them. Not very pleasant but effective.
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Awesome. What did you do to take it off and how long?
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i be had you pegged the wrong.. u be gets it...it be following under that pharma conspiracy... many branches duh conspiracies be have...yes i be loaded up on vit c and eating the raw garlic.
raw garlic cut me adult chicken pox me rash down to two unbearable days... it was either that or playing the last of us over the same time frame..
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It took me slightly over a year to lose. All I did was have smaller portions and no snacking. Now that I am just maintaining and not trying to lose I give myself a cheat day once a month. The cheat day I eat whatever the **** I want. One big discovery through all this was finding out I don’t have to put food in my mouth anytime my mouth is empty.
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They all be gotz me wrong, dawg. Yeah, I'll amp it up from time to time and give people a little extra hell for shits and giggles but I'm as anti-vax and anti-pharma as all my past posts have indicated. I know what I know and unlike those who mock me, I've done the research.
Back in my younger days, before the world wide web, I'd get a cold every year that would last 2 months or longer. I searched for an answer, which meant reading books back then and the best answer I could find was copious amounts of Vitamin C. I did that and since then I've not had a cold that lasted more than 2 or 3 days and outside of that 1 time I had the flu, which also just lasted 2 days, the little colds I've gotten, very infrequently, have consisted of nothing more than a stuffy nose.
When looking to drop 20-25 pounds a couple months ago, I happened along all this Ketosis and Intermittent Fasting stuff. It's as if it was custom made for me. Looked like the ketosis thing would not only help me drop the weight quickly, but would burn the fat for me. The Intermittent Fasting thing was all about giving the body extra time to heal itself and my body needed healing. I had been diagnosed with Crohn's long ago. Was always something I felt I could control on my own and, for the most part, I did for quite a while but it had gotten worse over the past couple years. Red meat, especially, wreaked havoc with my stomach. Had to stay close to my toilet for the next 20 or 30 minutes after eating it and had that bloated achy stomach feel often even when not eating it. Even laying off the red meat, I was getting intense cramps more and more often. The only way I could stop them was to just not eat at all until it went away... and then I find out about IF and I instantly thought, shit I can do that and maybe it will help me out with this shit.
I am not Joe Keto by any stretch. I did follow the ketosis macros as closely as I could in the beginning but once things got rolling and looking good, I just followed the basic premise of high fat, very minimal carbs and placed more importance on the IF part. Eating high fat makes you feel full for much longer periods and that was a good lead into Intermittent Fasting and made it much easier. I'd often go 20 hours or a little more without eating. Went 36 hours or a little more on a handful of occasions. This was one of those quite rare instances in which everything just turned out as planned for me. The weight came off quickly and the digestive problem stopped being a problem even quicker. I have not had a single cramp since. I've eaten large portions of red meat without issue. Let people think it's a placebo effect, I don't care cause all I know is I feel a lot better. I always feel satiated, yet never bloated w/achy stomach.
It's not necessarily about all carbs being bad. It's more about carbs and all the sugar just leaving you a lot more hungry shortly after eating them which is why Americans overeat. It's also not about all fats being good. Certainly transfats are as bad as we all know they are now. And the still overly processed cheap oils used in all these fast food places and even by many at home are likely almost just as much to blame. It's about upping the intake of the more healthy oils and fats to keep yourself more satiated and prevent the overeating. America wasn't always a nation of fatties. Just seems like many started overeating about the same time and the problem just got worse and worse. Fats always played the villain but it wasn't fats that these people were increasing when they all started overeating. It was the amount of carbs that increased greatly.
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Above, in my last post, I discussed how eating more fat allows you to stay way more satiated than you would with carbs which leave you feeling hungry and cause people to overeat. That's the simplified part but with both Ketosis and Intermittent fasting, the reason they are thought of as one main combined method gets a bit more sciencey.
Pay attention, now, cause I'm about to give you the scientific lowdown. It's a lengthy thing which is why I didn't get into it earlier but I'll explain it all now. You'll see why I was making fun of Aussie's tired method of weight loss and why Americans, who have long been told they need to lose weight in the same fashion, have failed miserably. It was never their fault. They were simply fed lies and given very bad info.
As it regards to both weight loss and better health, both IF and Ketosis were created to do exactly the same thing and that is to overcome the same enemy. That enemy is not carbs per se but rather insulin. And, really, this is where conventional thinking of calories in/calories out gets blown away because it is insulin standing in the way of permanent weight loss. The high carbs and frequent eating of carbs throughout the day is just an enabler for insulin and that's why they have to be removed from the equation. Ketosis does this by staying with a diet that's very high in fats w/moderate protein (cause excess protein can be stored as carbs by insulin) and very minimal carbs. Intermittent Fasting goes that extra mile and leaves large windows of time in which insulin will not be called into action at all. The well known, as well as long known, scientific explanation for doing this is to stop your body from solely using all the carbs and sugar that insulin is storing to be used as energy while you eat all those carbs daily and make it, instead, revert to burning the fat already stored on your body.
To simplify, you have to think of it as food being stored in 2 separate places in your body. You have the emergency store that is the actual fat on your body. Then you have the current food you're eating that is being stored for quick energy, by the hormone insulin, as needed throughout the day. You can exercise a lot and burn through those calories you're constantly taking in and even get to burn some of that fat off but it becomes a counterproductive thing as was witnessed with the Biggest Loser contestants.
2 years ago there was a 6 year study done on the 14 contestants of the show, Biggest Loser, that came to light. Of those 14, 13 had gained weight back. The 1 who didn't gain weight said she struggles daily to keep it off. She, in fact, has to take in a significantly less amount of calories than a woman her size has to in order to keep it off. All 14 contestants being studied had normal metabolisms at the beginning of the show. All 14 studied had significantly slower metabolisms after losing the weight. The bigger problem is their metabolisms didn't self correct over the years of this study. Their metabolisms, instead, slowed down even more over the next several years making it near impossible for these people to keep the weight off. The Biggest Loser winner who had lost the most weight lost ever, 239 pounds in seven months, on that show had regained 100 pounds at the time of this study. What he didn't realize was his metabolism had slowed down so much that he would have had to take in 800 calories less than the average man his size in order to keep that weight off. He also shared another big problem that all the other contestants did as well, his leptin hormone. Leptin controls hunger and, again, at the beginning of the show all had normal leptin levels but at the end all had very low leptin levels. So it would not be as people would think, that these people just reverted back to old habits. Fact is they were given very poor advice and the deck was stacked against them.
Anybody who ever watched The Biggest Loser show, knows they preached the same old tired BS everybody has been taught and it's the same method Aussie has talked about in this thread. They have the contestants with trainers for 3 months. Those trainers teach them about "good nutrition", which is the basic calories in/calories out low fat nonsense everybody has heard a million times. The trainers also push them daily to workout rigorously. Then after that, they let them go home 4 months and use what they have learned before returning for the big finale to see who lost the most weight. I've even seen these trainers teach that tired stuff about eating smaller portions throughout the day. But what really happens when you eat carbs throughout the day is you constantly spike your insulin levels. It is now insulin that is controlling the show 100% of the time and blocking you from getting to that emergency storage of energy that is in the fat already accumulated on your body. It has no cause to ever let you use that fat storage area cause you keep supplying it with easily usable carbs to store daily.
Here's the funny thing as far as this thread has gone. All that time Aussie was saying I was starving myself and slowing my metabolism down, the exact opposite has been scientifically proven. I've already shown how his old method of "less calories in/more calories out with exercise" totally wrecks your metabolism for years but it has also been shown that through intermittent fasting, the metabolic rate actually starts going up the longer you go without food. This is because you're not spiking insulin nearly as high as you were when eating carbs. Nor are you affecting insulin as often so you leave your body no other choice but to tap into that emergency store of fat you carry. It then turns that stored fat into ketones and uses it, rather than sugars, for energy. This requires more energy on your system so it has to rev up the metabolism a bit. Now, you've put the body in a state where it's burning fat on its own and any exercise you do is just enhancing the process whereas when you take in less calories while also using more energy for exercise, the body just figures you need fewer calories to get by and the metabolism slows down to better spread out those calories you still constantly provide it with carbs. You've done nothing to limit insulin spikes and so insulin is still in charge and will not resort to the fat already stored on your body. Instead it just keeps storing the carbs you still supply and since you are giving it less, the metabolism adjusts to make that lesser amount last longer.
Pay attention, now, cause I'm about to give you the scientific lowdown. It's a lengthy thing which is why I didn't get into it earlier but I'll explain it all now. You'll see why I was making fun of Aussie's tired method of weight loss and why Americans, who have long been told they need to lose weight in the same fashion, have failed miserably. It was never their fault. They were simply fed lies and given very bad info.
As it regards to both weight loss and better health, both IF and Ketosis were created to do exactly the same thing and that is to overcome the same enemy. That enemy is not carbs per se but rather insulin. And, really, this is where conventional thinking of calories in/calories out gets blown away because it is insulin standing in the way of permanent weight loss. The high carbs and frequent eating of carbs throughout the day is just an enabler for insulin and that's why they have to be removed from the equation. Ketosis does this by staying with a diet that's very high in fats w/moderate protein (cause excess protein can be stored as carbs by insulin) and very minimal carbs. Intermittent Fasting goes that extra mile and leaves large windows of time in which insulin will not be called into action at all. The well known, as well as long known, scientific explanation for doing this is to stop your body from solely using all the carbs and sugar that insulin is storing to be used as energy while you eat all those carbs daily and make it, instead, revert to burning the fat already stored on your body.
To simplify, you have to think of it as food being stored in 2 separate places in your body. You have the emergency store that is the actual fat on your body. Then you have the current food you're eating that is being stored for quick energy, by the hormone insulin, as needed throughout the day. You can exercise a lot and burn through those calories you're constantly taking in and even get to burn some of that fat off but it becomes a counterproductive thing as was witnessed with the Biggest Loser contestants.
2 years ago there was a 6 year study done on the 14 contestants of the show, Biggest Loser, that came to light. Of those 14, 13 had gained weight back. The 1 who didn't gain weight said she struggles daily to keep it off. She, in fact, has to take in a significantly less amount of calories than a woman her size has to in order to keep it off. All 14 contestants being studied had normal metabolisms at the beginning of the show. All 14 studied had significantly slower metabolisms after losing the weight. The bigger problem is their metabolisms didn't self correct over the years of this study. Their metabolisms, instead, slowed down even more over the next several years making it near impossible for these people to keep the weight off. The Biggest Loser winner who had lost the most weight lost ever, 239 pounds in seven months, on that show had regained 100 pounds at the time of this study. What he didn't realize was his metabolism had slowed down so much that he would have had to take in 800 calories less than the average man his size in order to keep that weight off. He also shared another big problem that all the other contestants did as well, his leptin hormone. Leptin controls hunger and, again, at the beginning of the show all had normal leptin levels but at the end all had very low leptin levels. So it would not be as people would think, that these people just reverted back to old habits. Fact is they were given very poor advice and the deck was stacked against them.
Anybody who ever watched The Biggest Loser show, knows they preached the same old tired BS everybody has been taught and it's the same method Aussie has talked about in this thread. They have the contestants with trainers for 3 months. Those trainers teach them about "good nutrition", which is the basic calories in/calories out low fat nonsense everybody has heard a million times. The trainers also push them daily to workout rigorously. Then after that, they let them go home 4 months and use what they have learned before returning for the big finale to see who lost the most weight. I've even seen these trainers teach that tired stuff about eating smaller portions throughout the day. But what really happens when you eat carbs throughout the day is you constantly spike your insulin levels. It is now insulin that is controlling the show 100% of the time and blocking you from getting to that emergency storage of energy that is in the fat already accumulated on your body. It has no cause to ever let you use that fat storage area cause you keep supplying it with easily usable carbs to store daily.
Here's the funny thing as far as this thread has gone. All that time Aussie was saying I was starving myself and slowing my metabolism down, the exact opposite has been scientifically proven. I've already shown how his old method of "less calories in/more calories out with exercise" totally wrecks your metabolism for years but it has also been shown that through intermittent fasting, the metabolic rate actually starts going up the longer you go without food. This is because you're not spiking insulin nearly as high as you were when eating carbs. Nor are you affecting insulin as often so you leave your body no other choice but to tap into that emergency store of fat you carry. It then turns that stored fat into ketones and uses it, rather than sugars, for energy. This requires more energy on your system so it has to rev up the metabolism a bit. Now, you've put the body in a state where it's burning fat on its own and any exercise you do is just enhancing the process whereas when you take in less calories while also using more energy for exercise, the body just figures you need fewer calories to get by and the metabolism slows down to better spread out those calories you still constantly provide it with carbs. You've done nothing to limit insulin spikes and so insulin is still in charge and will not resort to the fat already stored on your body. Instead it just keeps storing the carbs you still supply and since you are giving it less, the metabolism adjusts to make that lesser amount last longer.
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I really don't think about it anymore, but come to think of it I have drastically cut down on my carbs. I do have type 2 diabetes, but that is a thing once you are diagnosed with it you are always considered to have it. Since my weight loss which as been almost two years now, I have been taken off all diabetic meds. All is controlled by diet now. My A1C results now come back well below 5.7. As for exercise, because of a couple spinal surgeries and a heart attack, I am limited to walks. I should also add I am in my mid-sixties.
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You can only do the best you can do and you seem to have done well for yourself with that weight loss.
As far as always having T2D once you're diagnosed with it, I don't think that's true. Doctors may tell you that just as they'll tell people, like myself, that they'll always have Crohn's but I believe it all to be BS. T2D is reversible through diet and Crohn's, in most cases, is nothing more than a digestive disorder that can also be corrected.
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New study published Friday finds low carb diet reduces life span. I haven't read it all yet, but just throwing it out for the entertainment value of sparty's rebuttal.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext
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I'm not sure what caught your attention with this study or meta analysis. Looks like it's all over the place with zero controls and no real point to be made. I'm actually surprised with Xuder. While he has been a long time Spartan detractor, he usually comes with much better stuff than this nonsensical crap.
First they take adults aged 45-69 and the only info they have about their diets comes from questionnaires they fill out. Then they claim to have followed up with these people for an average of 25 years, at which point most of the people that age would be well beyond the average life expectancy anyway. They go on to say they find both low carb diets and high carb diets mean a greater mortality risk and that a diet of 50-55% carbs showed minimal risk. 55% carbs in your average 2500 calorie diet would be 343.75g of carbs which is incredibly high. I mentioned before how the average American consumes 250g of carbs a day and that is considered incredibly high. This study is petarded. I'm very disappointed in Xuder.
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Interesting
Both high and low percentages of carbohydrate diets were associated with increased mortality, with minimal risk observed at 50–55% carbohydrate intake.
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I still haven't read the study, but that was certainly a disappointing response from you sparty. You must be getting old, and maybe a bit fat.
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In fact, I've gotten both more wise and as slimmed down as I've been in my adult life. You didn't have to do much but even browse the stupid shit you linked to, to see there were no controls and obvious facts it chose to completely overlook.
They say a diet with quality high fats makes the mind sharper and more clear while a diet high in carbs not only makes the body sluggish but clouds the mind as well. You are clearly opting for the high carbs and, as such, just keep getting dumber and dumber.
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I'm not opting for anything. I'm not sure what lines you are attempting to read between. I simply posted a study, which I haven't even read.
Sorry if it upset you super chunk.
Sorry if it upset you super chunk.
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You came with zero knowledge, linking to something you had no clue about, just to hurl insults. You, sir, are a damned fool.
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mang, this getting old sucks. i was finally completely ova the flu and duh residuals about gone 100%, but sumin new popped up the past couple of days.
went to docs.. apparently i have chilblains.. thought i be had athletes foot or staph.. never heard of chilblains befo.. ne ways.. gotta cream the shit fer a couple of days n then i can start again.. still ahead of me official september 1 start time.. so i'll still get a week head start..
i see why old ppl move to warm areas now.. better invest in sum wool socks or some shit... cause spring to fall be too nice to move..
went to docs.. apparently i have chilblains.. thought i be had athletes foot or staph.. never heard of chilblains befo.. ne ways.. gotta cream the shit fer a couple of days n then i can start again.. still ahead of me official september 1 start time.. so i'll still get a week head start..
i see why old ppl move to warm areas now.. better invest in sum wool socks or some shit... cause spring to fall be too nice to move..