IST: Chicago Cubs (1-1) at Colorado Rockies (2-0)

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I prefer this overreaction to the overreaction of the Cubs starting 3-0 tbh
 

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We cant chalk it up to "game 3." Its still a serious issue. How many more games need to pass before you get that?

You realize the same thing happened to the cubs in April last season right and that by midseason they were hitting like a .500 team.

As a team last season they hit as follows
April/March - .236/.300/.355
May - .231/.300/.378
June - .227/.277/.374
July - .262/.321/.422
August - .241/.293/.400
Sept - .236/.308/.376

As a reference point NL average for teams last season was .249/.312/.383. Young players are going to struggle. Rizzo hit .233/.323/.419 his first full season in the majors. The following season he hit .286/.386/.527. He doesn't make that jump without the struggle the season prior. It's entirely possible players like Olt and Alcantara never amount to anything but you have to let young players play. I also find it interesting you mention those two in particular but say nothing of Soler who's hitting .200/.273/.400 in the 2 hole. Alcantara has hit 7th ahead of the pitcher and 9th. You typically don't expect much out of that position to begin with so his struggles aren't really unexpected. That's why he hits there. Soler is hitting in front of your best player. That's not to shit on Soler because I think he'll eventually be fine too but the point remains here.
 

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Funny reading posters already worried about the hitters 3 games into the season. ..
Its April, lets wait and see where their at come May..

Im seeing plenty of good hitters off to slow starts.... its way to early to get up or down on anything going on in baseball. .
 

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Eight teams got shut out on opening day. Several teams have started slow offensively. Three games is not enough time to draw any conclusions, and overreactions are rampant right now.
 

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@CarrieMuskat: #Cubs lineup: Fowler CF, Soler RF Rizzo 1B Montero C Castro SS Coghlan LF Olt 3B Hammel P Alcantara 2B

For those who dont care for Castro in the 4 hole...
Maddon gives you Montero
 

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@CarrieMuskat: #Cubs lineup: Fowler CF, Soler RF Rizzo 1B Montero C Castro SS Coghlan LF Olt 3B Hammel P Alcantara 2B

For those who dont care for Castro in the 4 hole...
Maddon gives you Montero

I'm glad they seemingly are going with Alcantara long term in the 2B. I'm obviously big on his upside.
 

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Lmao so pathetic. I'm at Buffalo wild wings and the Sox just barely won and you think they just won the world series. Sox fans are so sad.

1-4
 

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Im looking for a solid game out of offense tonight..

Top of order will rock and score some runs


Alcantara will hit cubs first homer tonight
 

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Fowler with a triple on the 1st pitch? Even the Cubs can't screw this up...
 

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Looks like Rizzo learned to lay off those way inside pitches
He just may lead league in HBP this year
 

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No way Soler has too much power to hit the second spot. He's definitely either 3rd 4th or 5th spot in the lineup. Where power hitters usually hit.

In a perfect world, the #2 would have power, but be able to hit 300+ with some speed and a high OBP. The problem is we don't have that player yet. This is what I would like the future LF to fill. Give me a LF that's great defensively with a big arm, that can hit over 300, has a high OBP, and steals a lot of bases. It's not like I'm asking for a lot. :dunno:
 

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I hate when games aren't covered locally :( ESPN stat track is balls.
 

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There is no such thing as clutch hitting. They either hit or they don't.

That's a pretty dumb thing to say, imo. The great hitters always separate themselves by hitting in the big moments. That goes for any sport. Great players make great plays at great moments, period. LOL at anyone who thinks differently.
 

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That's a pretty dumb thing to say, imo. The great hitters always separate themselves by hitting in the big moments. That goes for any sport. Great players make great plays at great moments, period. LOL at anyone who thinks differently.

According to the metrics, there is clutch hitting. However, it's not typically who you'd expect. What it basically comes down to is most people who are considered clutch hitters are good hitters anyways and they aren't significantly better in the clutch than they are any other time. For example, many think of Jeter as clutch and A-Rod as not. Over A-Rod's career he hit the follow

Low Leverage - .293/.386/.565
Medium Leverage - .291/.388/.527
High leverage - .294/.390/.581

On the other hand Jeter hit the following

Low Leverage - .293/.358/.415
Medium Leverage - .320/.380/.445
High Leverage - .283/.384/.359

There's little to no real difference here;
 

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According to the metrics, there is clutch hitting. However, it's not typically who you'd expect. What it basically comes down to is most people who are considered clutch hitters are good hitters anyways and they aren't significantly better in the clutch than they are any other time. For example, many think of Jeter as clutch and A-Rod as not. Over A-Rod's career he hit the follow

Low Leverage - .293/.386/.565
Medium Leverage - .291/.388/.527
High leverage - .294/.390/.581

On the other hand Jeter hit the following

Low Leverage - .293/.358/.415
Medium Leverage - .320/.380/.445
High Leverage - .283/.384/.359

There's little to no real difference here;

Blah, Blah, Blah. And that's precisely where the metric heads lose me.
 

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Fowler! Two trips and the big hit! :elephant:
 

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Dont care for Soler lunging to get ball in air, rather he sit and look for one to drive. .

Hoping Rizzo would lay a bunt down 3rd that AB to get that run home.. it open take it and drive in a run
 

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That's a pretty dumb thing to say, imo. The great hitters always separate themselves by hitting in the big moments. That goes for any sport. Great players make great plays at great moments, period. LOL at anyone who thinks differently.
No. Your post is dumb! A good hitter is a good hitter. Clutch comes from being a good hitter and performing as normal. IOW there isn't any such thing as clutch.
 

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