IST: Cubs vs. Brewers

[Shawon0Meter]

What the hell? It's a tie game.

 

[chibears55]

They are lined up for Lester, Lackey, Arretta, Hendricks.

Didn't know Maddon announced his rotation already

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[chibears55]

Miggy baby
He wants to play in post season

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[DJMoore_is_fat]

We did it!! 108 years!!!! The curse is over!!!!! Theo did it!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!


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[Washington]

We did it!! 108 years!!!! The curse is over!!!!! Theo did it!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!

Hold that thought and resurrect it in about a month.

 

[Shawon0Meter]

That's the type of finish that feels like a division was won. Nice.

 

[CSF77]

Didn't know Maddon announced his rotation already

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From a few days back.

Nothing is set in stone, but Maddon recently tweaked his rotation in a way that has Lester and Lackey set to start the final two games of the regular season. This puts them on track to start Games 1 and 2 of the NL Division Series at Wrigley Field, with Arrieta and Hendricks in line for Games 3 and 4 (if necessary) on the road -- most likely after throwing simulated games on Oct. 4 and 5, during a four-day break for the Cubs.

 

[CSF77]

Good game but they need to lock up the #1 seed now. The Div win is little business this year. And seeing how it helped STL vs us last year it really means little.

I want them to just crush teams to the end to be honest. Put some fear out there vs giving the troops too much R&R. 2008 they did that and they came in cold.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

From a few days back.

Nothing is set in stone, but Maddon recently tweaked his rotation in a way that has Lester and Lackey set to start the final two games of the regular season. This puts them on track to start Games 1 and 2 of the NL Division Series at Wrigley Field, with Arrieta and Hendricks in line for Games 3 and 4 (if necessary) on the road -- most likely after throwing simulated games on Oct. 4 and 5, during a four-day break for the Cubs.

Yes but when both Maddon and Bosio we're asked about it they pointed out that there are 5 full days between their last game and game 1 so they could really do whatever they wanted based on matchup. Paul Sullivan keeps pushing the Lackey in game 2 though so he can ***** about it. Nothing is set in stone at this point.

 

[anotheridiot]

From a few days back.

Nothing is set in stone, but Maddon recently tweaked his rotation in a way that has Lester and Lackey set to start the final two games of the regular season. This puts them on track to start Games 1 and 2 of the NL Division Series at Wrigley Field, with Arrieta and Hendricks in line for Games 3 and 4 (if necessary) on the road -- most likely after throwing simulated games on Oct. 4 and 5, during a four-day break for the Cubs.

So this why lester and lackey are the two whining about the 6 man rotation, so they can pitch the final two games, and then just let Jake and Kyle sit even longer before they pitch?
Sullivan is that writer that just bitches to buy more players, so apparently, we are not supposed remember anyone fixed or brought up thru the system.

 

[chibears55]

From a few days back.

Nothing is set in stone, but Maddon recently tweaked his rotation in a way that has Lester and Lackey set to start the final two games of the regular season. This puts them on track to start Games 1 and 2 of the NL Division Series at Wrigley Field, with Arrieta and Hendricks in line for Games 3 and 4 (if necessary) on the road -- most likely after throwing simulated games on Oct. 4 and 5, during a four-day break for the Cubs.

You do know the NLDS don't start til the Friday after the season which will be 5 days later..

So

No matter what the rotation is now or even how it ends
All the starters will have regular rest or more..

Plus

Even if it ends with Lester and Lackey
1. It doesn't mean their going to start game 1 and 2

2. It might not be a good idea to give Arrieta and Hendricks too much more then 5 or 6 days rest in between their last start

If Arrieta and Hendricks don't pitch again til game 3 and 4 that would give them like 10 days or more between starts..


So, winning the division and having the extra days off gives Maddon the benefit of setting his rotation any way he wants, with all starters getting a good rest in between starts.

I wouldn't read anything into what the rotation is now

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[cubsmann]

Good game but they need to lock up the #1 seed now. The Div win is little business this year. And seeing how it helped STL vs us last year it really means little.

I want them to just crush teams to the end to be honest. Put some fear out there vs giving the troops too much R&R. 2008 they did that and they came in cold.

Yeah magic number for home field is now 10. That's all the matters at this point. This was an awesome game. Playing all the scrubs and we take it with 2 in the 9th and a HR in the 10th after Chapman strikes out the side in the 10th!! Frigging awesome!!! The Cubs have had so many come back games lately and this is how great teams win. They got the big hits when they needed them and then the HR in the 10th was gone! The wind was blowing out like crazy today and only 5 HR's. This should have been a 10-9 game. Great pitching great hitting. I love this team!!

I really hope Hendricks starts game 2. The guy deserves it. He is leading MLB in ERA and has been unhittable at Wrigley the whole year. The thing is I don't mind if Lester and Lackey start game 1 and 2 because they both have won game 7's in huge games. Doesn't Hendricks get to start before Arrieta considering how dominant he has been?!!

 

[beckdawg]

Why would Almora ever lead off? The Cubs value OBP at the top over everything. He is not that guy and never will be.

Honestly, I'd argue he's best after high OBP guys. Assuming he turns out to be an actual MLB hitter, his high contact rate is exactly what you want behind OBP guys. They get on, he gets hits to drive them in.

 

[beckdawg]

They are lined up for Lester, Lackey, Arretta, Hendricks.

Wouldn't put too much thought into where they line up today. They will have probably 2 weeks where they can give someone like Cahill a start.

 

[CSF77]

You guys are jumpy. All said was they are lined up for it. Even the article said nothing set in stone.

Now my take. If they take top seed: Jake should pitch game 3. The WC Ace lines up vs him then and you want that match up.

Other than that you want to lean on the guys with the hardware. Lester and Lackey have won it all and they should be leading the way. Lester more so but Lackey has won a game 7 as a rookie. With Maddon watching. You have to believe Maddon will go there.

 

[beckdawg]

You guys are jumpy. All said was they are lined up for it. Even the article said nothing set in stone.

Now my take. If they take top seed: Jake should pitch game 3. The WC Ace lines up vs him then and you want that match up.

Other than that you want to lean on the guys with the hardware. Lester and Lackey have won it all and they should be leading the way. Lester more so but Lackey has won a game 7 as a rookie. With Maddon watching. You have to believe Maddon will go there.

To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem with Lester being the game 1 starter. But given how good Hendricks has been in general and given how absurd he has been at home this year I feel like starting him game 2 makes sense. Additionally, if you have him split up Lester and Arrieta you put yourself in a good situation. If you steal a win with Hendricks(not sure you can even call it stealing) you then have to go up against someone with nasty stuff. Those three together like that in some form would give you 3 very different looks. Lester is obviously a lefty. Hendricks throws a lot of ground ball junk at 88. And Arrieta has crazy movement. Feel like Hendricks between those two gives you more bang for your buck.

 

[CSF77]

To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem with Lester being the game 1 starter. But given how good Hendricks has been in general and given how absurd he has been at home this year I feel like starting him game 2 makes sense. Additionally, if you have him split up Lester and Arrieta you put yourself in a good situation. If you steal a win with Hendricks(not sure you can even call it stealing) you then have to go up against someone with nasty stuff. Those three together like that in some form would give you 3 very different looks. Lester is obviously a lefty. Hendricks throws a lot of ground ball junk at 88. And Arrieta has crazy movement. Feel like Hendricks between those two gives you more bang for your buck.

If I was just looking at the numbers I would agree. But it goes beyond that.

Track record favors Lackey over Hendricks or Arrieta. After the Pit game Jake looked human. Lackey beat Jon in game 1 at Wrigg.

I believe past play off results > Current year results.

They factor but Lackey has not had this off year to justify it. The wind tailed behind but his results are there. Not to mention he had a break and should be the least gassed.

 

[DanTown]

I used to think it made sense to go

Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey

And while I still do think that isn't a bad choice for the rotation, I do buy the argument of going Lackey over Hendricks in a playoff situation. Lackey has experience, you know what you're going to get out of him, and he's been very similar to Hendricks in terms of pitching and advanced stats save for contact rate, which isn't something that predicts outcomes.

I know a lot of people think it's crazy to think Lackey and Hendricks are close but that's kind of the way I see it and when they're close, I'll defer to the guy with experience. I don't know if that means I should start the less experienced guy early at home or not.

 

[CSF77]

I used to think it made sense to go

Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey

And while I still do think that isn't a bad choice for the rotation, I do buy the argument of going Lackey over Hendricks in a playoff situation. Lackey has experience, you know what you're going to get out of him, and he's been very similar to Hendricks in terms of pitching and advanced stats save for contact rate, which isn't something that predicts outcomes.

I know a lot of people think it's crazy to think Lackey and Hendricks are close but that's kind of the way I see it and when they're close, I'll defer to the guy with experience. I don't know if that means I should start the less experienced guy early at home or not.

If they sweep. Who do you want starting game 1?

 

[DanTown]

If I was just looking at the numbers I would agree. But it goes beyond that.

Track record favors Lackey over Hendricks or Arrieta. After the Pit game Jake looked human. Lackey beat Jon in game 1 at Wrigg.

I believe past play off results > Current year results.

They factor but Lackey has not had this off year to justify it. The wind tailed behind but his results are there. Not to mention he had a break and should be the least gassed.

To be fair to Jake and measuring his performance, those were innings 240+ for him last season after never being above 160 for his career so I'd need way more playoff data to suggest that Jake struggles in the playoffs.