IST: Cubs vs. Brewers

[SilenceS]

2008 Lou let the team take a week off basically playing 1 or 2 games. Played Dodgers and got crushed. They came in cold while the other teams had to fight to get in.

That is the big problem clinching early. Lose the killer instinct.

Not true, there biggest weakness that year was power righties. Dodgers were chalked full of them and they destroyed us. I remember everyone wanting the Dodgers and it was the only team I feared and they did what I though. Destroyed us. That team has no true ace and was right handed heavy with no mixture. No matter what happens. This team is a much more complete team. Truth not trying to rationalize.

 

[SilenceS]

Let me explain why I dont fear this year like yester years. Rizzo becoming Joey Votto like is one. He couldnt hit a fastball above 95 and now he can hit anything. Mad respect to him because he worked on a weakness that I didnt think he could get past. Two is Zobrist and Heyward. I know Heyward has sucked at the plate, but both know how to work a count. Zobrist was a superstar last year and that experience is invaluable. This Cubs team can push a pitcher out the game without hitting them. Its why they are so tough. Three this is the best defensive and pitching Cubs team in my lifetime. Its not even close.

 

[CSF77]

Even if you ignore the stats aspects of it, a 27 year old pitcher is who's made 1 playoff start is surely going to pitch better in front of a home crowd than he would in a hostile road environment. I just don't see he point in throwing Hendricks in that way. Of the cubs starters he's the most reliant on hitting his spots and what not. If he's distracted for any reason be it crowd, being over hyped, pressure or whatever he could get hit hard. I'd just rather someone like Lackey on the road. In fact, I think you could make an argument for Arrieta and Hendricks games 1/2 and Lester and Lackey games 3/4 for that reason though as I mentioned, I think Lester arguably should be your game 1 starter.

Not true, there biggest weakness that year was power righties. Dodgers were chalked full of them and they destroyed us. I remember everyone wanting the Dodgers and it was the only team I feared and they did what I though. Destroyed us. That team has no true ace and was right handed heavy with no mixture. No matter what happens. This team is a much more complete team. Truth not trying to rationalize.

That team won 97 games. Many were against RHP. Was it a factor? Yes. Was losing momentum a factor? Yes.

The hottest team normally wins in the play offs. All teams are good. Cubs came in cold. You have to factor it and not pass it off.

 

[CSF77]

Even if you ignore the stats aspects of it, a 27 year old pitcher is who's made 1 playoff start is surely going to pitch better in front of a home crowd than he would in a hostile road environment. I just don't see he point in throwing Hendricks in that way. Of the cubs starters he's the most reliant on hitting his spots and what not. If he's distracted for any reason be it crowd, being over hyped, pressure or whatever he could get hit hard. I'd just rather someone like Lackey on the road. In fact, I think you could make an argument for Arrieta and Hendricks games 1/2 and Lester and Lackey games 3/4 for that reason though as I mentioned, I think Lester arguably should be your game 1 starter.

Let me explain why I dont fear this year like yester years. Rizzo becoming Joey Votto like is one. He couldnt hit a fastball above 95 and now he can hit anything. Mad respect to him because he worked on a weakness that I didnt think he could get past. Two is Zobrist and Heyward. I know Heyward has sucked at the plate, but both know how to work a count. Zobrist was a superstar last year and that experience is invaluable. This Cubs team can push a pitcher out the game without hitting them. Its why they are so tough. Three this is the best defensive and pitching Cubs team in my lifetime. Its not even close.

They do strike out a lot. Add to it they are young. Last year's experience will be invaluable to the kids and adding guys that have rings should push them over the hump.

But I expect it to be the staff to be the biggest factor. I don't expect any blow outs. Except Shark if SFG make it. He sucks.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

That team won 97 games. Many were against RHP. Was it a factor? Yes. Was losing momentum a factor? Yes.

The hottest team normally wins in the play offs. All teams are good. Cubs came in cold. You have to factor it and not pass it off.

Didn't hurt the Royals last year with a losing record in September.

 

[beckdawg]

Was watching ESPN last night and i don't remember the exact stat but it was something to the effect of this is only the 3rd time since 1905 the cubs have been to back to back playoffs. That says a lot about the championship drought.

 

[chibears55]

Was watching ESPN last night and i don't remember the exact stat but it was something to the effect of this is only the 3rd time since 1905 the cubs have been to back to back playoffs. That says a lot about the championship drought.

Says a lot about how this team was runned over the years with the Wrigleys and Tribune..

Seriously youd think between 1908 and 1968, they be able to make it to more then 1 world series when all you had to do was beat out 5 other teams over the season to get there..

Not sure why talented players wouldn't want to come to chicago during those times except maybe they weren't being offered much to come.


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[SilenceS]

 

[CSF77]

crap team again. Taking the foot off the accelerator is not a wise idea.

 

[SilenceS]

Mvp!

 

[SilenceS]

crap team again. Taking the foot off the accelerator is not a wise idea.

3-0

 

[TL1961]

That team won 97 games. Many were against RHP. Was it a factor? Yes. Was losing momentum a factor? Yes.

The hottest team normally wins in the play offs. All teams are good. Cubs came in cold. You have to factor it and not pass it off.

The 2005 White Sox and 2006 Cardinals, just for two examples, limped into the playoffs, and won it all.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Says a lot about how this team was runned over the years with the Wrigleys and Tribune..

Seriously youd think between 1908 and 1968, they be able to make it to more then 1 world series when all you had to do was beat out 5 other teams over the season to get there..

Not sure why talented players wouldn't want to come to chicago during those times except maybe they weren't being offered much to come.


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Actually between 1908 they made 7 World Series 1910, 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945 and were considered among the elite in the NL even though they didn't win the big one. In those days the league Pennant was a bigger deal than it is now so it was less of a stigma to not win the World Series. The leagues still had very separate identities. As far as attracting talent it was more about development than getting talent at least until FA started.

 

[Mr. Cub]

COGBALL finally with a HR. can't believe it took so long.

 

[TL1961]

Says a lot about how this team was runned over the years with the Wrigleys and Tribune..

Seriously youd think between 1908 and 1968, they be able to make it to more then 1 world series when all you had to do was beat out 5 other teams over the season to get there..

Not sure why talented players wouldn't want to come to chicago during those times except maybe they weren't being offered much to come.


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Or the fact that they couldn't, as free agency didn't exist.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

crap team again. Taking the foot off the accelerator is not a wise idea.

Every team does this after the clinch. When the game was to be won yesterday Maddon had no issue with using Chapman and today they're off to a fast start. I wouldn't be too concerned.

 

[Diehardfan]

Says a lot about how this team was runned over the years with the Wrigleys and Tribune..

Seriously youd think between 1908 and 1968, they be able to make it to more then 1 world series when all you had to do was beat out 5 other teams over the season to get there..

Not sure why talented players wouldn't want to come to chicago during those times except maybe they weren't being offered much to come.


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What? Does the term "reserve clause" come to mind? Players didn't/couldn't jump around from team to team like they do today. You must be a young fan.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

What? Does the term "reserve clause" come to mind? Players didn't/couldn't jump around from team to team like they do today. You must be a young fan.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking he meant signing young talent before the advent of the draft.

 

[SilenceS]

Baez is falling back into his old trap. He is trying to yank everything and not using his two strike approach that was really working middle of the year.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

deGrom out for the season. The prospect of facing the Mets is not so scary at this point. I was shocked when it looked like they were going to let him pitch in the first place. If they were smart they'd shut down Matz as well.