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Caleb playing the entire year was huge for experience. I would imagine a lot of the offseason work will focus on his footwork and timing. It should have regardless, but with the new offense it will be even more important.


Processing is the thing with him at least to my way of thinking. That and field vision.

He's got to figure out how to process much, much quicker and get the ball out to a receiver much quicker.

If he can't figure that out, he won't ever be anything.
 

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Ben Johnson was my first choice.

He doesn't have HC experience, but I'm sure he's committed to running the offense and he's a good modern OC. And Bears have an excellent developing QB and good offensive players already. That's a great place to start.
 

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“He's one of the most intense people you'll ever meet, and he doesn't put off like that, but he's incredibly intense and, like, don't get in his way.”
I bet this person is not old enough to recall Mike Ditka as a Bears head coach, speaking of intense and a coach to avoid if one screws up on the field of play.

Floating around on the Indian Ocean, internet just popped on, got this news! Oh hell yes! Love the hire! If Allen comes in as DC, he can assist with HC duties and structures!

Love it, love it!

Oh and props for the quick pick, allowing, perhaps, a wider field to pick assistants from.
 
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I don't see the Bears skill players as anything special. Odunze was ok as a rookie. probably a bit of a disappointment, and Moore had a down season. Swift is a limited RB who rarely breaks tackles and Roshon is nothing special. I'd like to see a quality RB drafted and a speedy type WR.

Detroit prioritized both O line and offensive playmakers. The Bears should do the same.
DJ Moore is a baller. He had a down year, but then again, so did everyone. We hired Waldron whom no player who ever played for him had much good to say about him, Jaxon Smith-Ngiba being the most notable one who was basically saying he sucked and hated his scheme. So if Moore is down and Keenan Allen looked washed a year after his best per-game statistical year of his career then it's reasonable to assume that Odunze wasn't put in a position to succeed either.

Comparing apples to apples with Detroit, you've got:

St. Brown - DJ Moore. They're comparable players with St. Brown having always been a great possession/slot type guy with Moore being more of a YAC/big play guy.
Williams - Odunze. Williams had a nice year finally but Odunze figures to be much more of a well rounded receiver still with great big-play ability and massive upside. Williams obviously is the faster guy who takes tops off defenses.
LaPorta - Kmet. I'd take LaPorta over Kmet but it's not like the gulf would be huge. Everyone knows Kmet was severely underutilized this year.
Montgomery - Johnson. No one was really sad to see Montgomery go other than for sentimental reasons. He's a quality back but far from dynamic and his value is in his versatility: same for Johnson.
Gibbs - Swift. I'd certainly take Gibbs but Swift is a similar play who thrives in space and our offensive line specialized in not creating space.
Goff - Williams. No one in their right mind wouldn't take Williams' sky-high upside over Goff who's been really good in the regular season and has a storied history of choking in the playoffs and when under pressure. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that Johnson jumped at the opportunity to work with Williams cause it's not like the Bears have much else going for them by way of organizational success and so on.

The whole point is that the Lions' skill players have been put in position to succeed by Johnson's schemes and now we have Johnson to do the same for us. The missing piece is the offensive line now but we'll see what happens in the offseason. If Johnson a real deal unicorn of coaching like a Sean McVay then it would be expected to see the Bears' skill players put up much bigger numbers as the Lions have and thus not be seen anymore as "nothing special."
 
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Wonder who Johnson pick as O-line coach.
 

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Poles better throw the kitchen sink at the offensive line this offseason. You could even neglect the defensive line a little bit in favor of making damn sure you get that fixed so Johnson can get this train rolling.

Caleb/Moore/Odunze/Kmet/Swift/Johnson is comparable to what the Lions have at their skill positions just that Caleb's upside is a lot higher than Goff's at this point. The difference is the O-line. The good news is that with Caleb and Johnson: you've got to believe that free agents will be more likely to sign here now to be part of what could be.
No. You can absolutely fix both. Do not neglect either of them.
 

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That is an interesting stat. And is also a great reminder that you can’t just fix one side of the ball. As good as the offense is, if you don’t keep the other team from scoring, even the best record in the league is 500.

Don’t neglect the defensive line just because you have an offensive head coach. There’s plenty of cap space and draft picks to improve on both sides of the ball.
 

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I don't see the Bears skill players as anything special. Odunze was ok as a rookie. probably a bit of a disappointment, and Moore had a down season. Swift is a limited RB who rarely breaks tackles and Roshon is nothing special. I'd like to see a quality RB drafted and a speedy type WR.

Detroit prioritized both O line and offensive playmakers. The Bears should do the same.
Odunze putting up 734 yards and 3 TDs as the #3 WR in a horrible offense with a rookie QB is not bad at all. That’s also considering all the missed opportunities that there were. He has some things he needs to improve on though.
 

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No. Just a bunch of letters.
I’m not even sure Chase Young is better than Demarcus Walker. They are roughly provide the same production and really are just depth pieces. You can’t really say that Young has potential anymore; he is who he is.
 

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Guy looks like a dweeb. I assume Beardom will once again get a heavy dose of the peter principle. Dweeby OC has success focusing on his one job while a kickass HC controls the locker room & has guys willing to run thru walls for him. There's a reason the bears always get the guy that on paper looks good, It's because The McCaskeys are dweebs & they like other dweebs.
 

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I’m not even sure Chase Young is better than Demarcus Walker. They are roughly provide the same production and really are just depth pieces. You can’t really say that Young has potential anymore; he is who he is.
I would agree with this. Only difference is one is 5 years younger.
 

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No. You can absolutely fix both. Do not neglect either of them.
Plenty of people here will tell you that we need to spend our first pick on the defensive line, which would be too much, IMO. I think the first overall pick and one of the seconds needs to go into the offensive line. Another second on the D-line is fine, which wouldn't be "neglecting" but it wouldn't be addressing it in a big way either.
 

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Plenty of people here will tell you that we need to spend our first pick on the defensive line, which would be too much, IMO. I think the first overall pick and one of the seconds needs to go into the offensive line. Another second on the D-line is fine, which wouldn't be "neglecting" but it wouldn't be addressing it in a big way either.

Depends on who is on the board at #10. If there is a clear blue chip pass rusher while at the same time only a projection at OL, I would think you take the pass rusher. Both are needs.

The reverse is true as well.
 

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