Jayden Daniels > Caleb Williams

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Despite the proclamations that this season is over, there are still 14 games to go.

There is nobody on the Bears - roster or staff - that anyone can be absolutely certain they are goners.

 

[DaaBears]

It seems obvious to me that Eberflus has given the keys to Waldron to run the offense. I would think that this is what most of you would want. I also recall most pretty happy with Waldron when he was hired. My guess is Eberflus should and probably will have a meeting with Waldron and make changes.

 

[jc456]

Anyone making declarations after 3 games is a moron

And I've seen you doing it for the past 2 days

Declarations like CW is doing well like you? 1 and 2. I give two shits how many games into the season, he's 1 and 2. And a SB QB sees it like me. So fk off jr. your lost.

 

[jc456]

I’d rather the kitchen sink be thrown at CW right out of gate than giving him baby steps

Yeah and he looks lost.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Declarations like CW is doing well like you? 1 and 2. I give two shits how many games into the season, he's 1 and 2. And a SB QB sees it like me. So fk off jr. your lost.

And no one really cares. You and your opinion are insignificant. Cry about it loser

 

[jc456]

People are very stupid. People are also very impatient. Freaking out about a rookie in his 3rd game is hilarious. Also, comparing him to Jayden Daniels is really stupid. How much high level football experience does Bo Nix and Jayden Daniels have compared to Caleb Williams? 5 seasons of college football vs. 3 seasons of college football makes a huge difference.

We've been through more than one of these in the history of the Bears, so you're far off base. He still can't read the Defense, he should have come out of his program with that talent. JF never had it, still doesn't, he's won three games due to Pittsburgh's Defense, not Fields. Hilarious.

 

[jc456]

And no one really cares. You and your opinion are insignificant. Cry about it loser

Oh don't I know that! only you count I get it, you're the greatest talent evaluator on the planet, right? hahhahahhahaahahaha you jacked up punks are hilarious. You are too wrapped up in Bear love to see the big picture. You blame the Oline because CW gets sacked. If you were actually an honest evaluator, you'd see that the NFL rates most sacks on the QB. But have a nice day. Remember, only your opinion matters.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Oh don't I know that! only you count I get it, you're the greatest talent evaluator on the planet, right? hahhahahhahaahahaha you jacked up punks are hilarious. You are too wrapped up in Bear love to see the big picture. You blame the Oline because CW gets sacked. If you were actually an honest evaluator, you'd see that the NFL rates most sacks on the QB. But have a nice day. Remember, only your opinion matters.

I didnt do any of that but point out you're an idiot.

Carry on being an idiot

 

[jc456]

Anyone making declarations after 3 games is a moron

And I've seen you doing it for the past 2 days

You must be a moron then, you've declared him good.

 

[jc456]

I didnt do any of that but point out you're an idiot.

Carry on being an idiot

historical records are in the posting. back pedaling is so idiots like you!

 

[remydat]

From what I gather, it sounds like JD is being asked to do a lot less than Caleb is.

It seems the Bears have put everything on Caleb's plate, and they are having him battle through it and grow, which he appears to be doing.

Maybe putting less on CW's plate and slowly adding to it is a better process, or maybe giving it all to him at once and letting him make mistakes and learn is better. I don't know, but we'll see how it unfolds.

What I would expect if these above things are true, is that JD could initially avoid some of the mistakes and the growing pains that CW is facing. Like you said, I would also expect that the NFL will adjust to JD, which we've seen many times with mobile QBs.

What I most certainly would not do is reach any conclusions or panic on a rookie QB class after 3 games (not saying you are of course, but obviously some are).

Think both are viable and fit the QB. JD is more a runner so one read or run makes sense for him and you sprinkle in some more complex reads as he gains more experience.

Caleb doesnt run as much so probably better to throw everything at him so he can level up passing wise faster.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

Peyton

You must be a moron then, you've declared him good.

Peyton Manning had 2 TD’s and 8 INT’s after his first 3 games, you would have been calling him a bust and asking for Jim Harbaugh back as their QB. Give it time FFS

 

[jc456]

Peyton

Peyton Manning had 2 TD’s and 8 INT’s after his first 3 games, you would have been calling him a bust and asking for Jim Harbaugh back as their QB. Give it time FFS

See, look at you declaring, you are declaring he's gonna be Peyton Manning now. Wow! no holding back for you!!!!

 

[jc456]

Think both are viable and fit the QB. JD is more a runner so one read or run makes sense for him and you sprinkle in some more complex reads as he gains more experience.

Caleb doesnt run as much so probably better to throw everything at him so he can level up passing wise faster.

or fail right? are you stating that as fact?

 

[Icculus]

Peyton

Peyton Manning had 2 TD’s and 8 INT’s after his first 3 games, you would have been calling him a bust and asking for Jim Harbaugh back as their QB. Give it time FFS

You are right about Peyton Manning. However, the rule changes and refs' calls during games have alleviated difficulties for NFL offenses, especially QB's.

 

[oso4lyf]

Walrus has no clue what he's doing.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

I’d rather the kitchen sink be thrown at CW right out of gate than giving him baby steps

Why? What would that accomplish? I think history has shown its more successful to slowly develop a young QB, not just throw him into the fire. And I think that has kind of been the Bears franchise problem over the years at the QB position....they draft athletes who aren't all that refined, and then they just send them out onto the field. Not saying that the Bears are unique, a lot of NFL teams just start their rookie QBs from Day 1, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Moses Moreno]

I get thats what you want

But the Bears don't fire coaches mid-season even if that was the direction they decide to take after the season

I want the Bears to have a good head coach - ideally Eberflus would be that but not sure if you're paying attention but he's pretty clearly in over his head.

 

[Moses Moreno]

Why? What would that accomplish? I think history has shown its more successful to slowly develop a young QB, not just throw him into the fire. And I think that has kind of been the Bears franchise problem over the years at the QB position....they draft athletes who aren't all that refined, and then they just send them out onto the field. Not saying that the Bears are unique, a lot of NFL teams just start their rookie QBs from Day 1, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

Geno Smith
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Justin Fields

Jordan Love
Aaron Rodgers

 

[sevvy]

We've been through more than one of these in the history of the Bears, so you're far off base. He still can't read the Defense, he should have come out of his program with that talent. JF never had it, still doesn't, he's won three games due to Pittsburgh's Defense, not Fields. Hilarious.

Okay, so now we're going with Caleb Williams can't read a defense?