Keto and Intermittent Fasting

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Question for the keto folks who are looking to rapidly lose like over 100 lbs:

What are you going to do with all the skin?


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New jacket. I mean, it should fit right?
 

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Should we go back and forth about it for a week? :)

So the answer is yes...hopefully this keto diet allows you to find your balls
 

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I guess I'll chime in w/ my personal anecdote. At one point I weighed nearly 250, but the "average" was probably more like 230. Decided I wanted to drop some weight, so I started:

- EATING LESS
- Kept my macros relatively in check (roughly 40/40/20)
- Got most of my carbs from complex sources (whole grains, sweet potatoes, etc)
- Cut out sugar as much as possible
- Protein sources generally pretty lean (fish, chicken, etc)
- Lots of fruit and vegetables
- Occasionally eat whatever the **** I want to, mostly to keep myself sane.

Got down to about 180 and decided that was enough, and decided to start going back up. Guess what I did? Same thing, but ATE MORE (probably around +500 of my TDEE), and shifted a little more to protein in my splits. Also started lifting again focusing mostly on big compound stuff (squats, deadlifts, bench, etc). I've slowly crept back up in weight, and most of the gain has been lean muscle mass. As of this AM I was 193. Thermodynamics is fun!

Seriously though. This shit isn't complicated. Eat clean (mostly for health reasons), consume less / more than your TDEE depending on goals, work out, and realize that this shit is a lifestyle change and not a fucking sprint.

My 2 cents.
 

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I guess I'll chime in w/ my personal anecdote. At one point I weighed nearly 250, but the "average" was probably more like 230. Decided I wanted to drop some weight, so I started:

- EATING LESS
- Kept my macros relatively in check (roughly 40/40/20)
- Got most of my carbs from complex sources (whole grains, sweet potatoes, etc)
- Cut out sugar as much as possible
- Protein sources generally pretty lean (fish, chicken, etc)
- Lots of fruit and vegetables
- Occasionally eat whatever the **** I want to, mostly to keep myself sane.

Got down to about 180 and decided that was enough, and decided to start going back up. Guess what I did? Same thing, but ATE MORE (probably around +500 of my TDEE), and shifted a little more to protein in my splits. Also started lifting again focusing mostly on big compound stuff (squats, deadlifts, bench, etc). I've slowly crept back up in weight, and most of the gain has been lean muscle mass. As of this AM I was 193. Thermodynamics is fun!

Seriously though. This shit isn't complicated. Eat clean (mostly for health reasons), consume less / more than your TDEE depending on goals, work out, and realize that this shit is a lifestyle change and not a fucking sprint.

My 2 cents.

You seem to get it unlike so many people.

What did you do when you reached your goal? You created a new goal to improve even more. Most people think they are done and start eating exactly what they did that got them fat in the first place. And then they get fat again.

What seems to work for me is knowing my calorie limit for the day. Eating mostly clean. If something comes up like a birthday cake in the office, I have a piece. It's no big deal. Then I account for that piece into my total calories while eating clean the rest of the day. It's easy to stick to this because there is not a lot of pressure of always being perfect or dreading that you can't eat certain foods.
 

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You seem to get it unlike so many people.

What did you do when you reached your goal? You created a new goal to improve even more. Most people think they are done and start eating exactly what they did that got them fat in the first place. And then they get fat again.

What seems to work for me is knowing my calorie limit for the day. Eating mostly clean. If something comes up like a birthday cake in the office, I have a piece. It's no big deal. Then I account for that piece into my total calories while eating clean the rest of the day. It's easy to stick to this because there is not a lot of pressure of always being perfect or dreading that you can't eat certain foods.
The day when you know you no longer have to worry about your weight is the day you no longer have to be concerned with counting calories.
 

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The day when you know you no longer have to worry about your weight is the day you no longer have to be concerned with counting calories.
I honestly don't even count calories. I have a pretty good sense of what portion control should look like on a plate. Lean protein, bunch of vegetables, some kind of good carb, etc. For me it's just not sustainable to count everything, too much of a pain in the ass. I've done it on occasion (which is admittedly helpful to be able to estimate well), but eventually I'd stop. My current methodology seems to be working pretty well. For me anyways.
 

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Are 90% of your posts just whining about other posters? Asking for a friend

Only when warranted.

These are discussion forums. Why people have to shit on threads in which they don't care to participate is beyond me. There are many mature people here who actually want a discussion.
 

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Only when warranted.

These are discussion forums. Why people have to shit on threads in which they don't care to participate is beyond me. There are many mature people here who actually want a discussion.


From the front page of these forums:

"We understand things can get heated so we attempt to run this place like a sports bar, as compared to a daycare. "

You should accept this fact,and learn to laugh a bit. You might lose weight doing so.
 

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I guess I'll chime in w/ my personal anecdote. At one point I weighed nearly 250, but the "average" was probably more like 230. Decided I wanted to drop some weight, so I started:

- EATING LESS
- Kept my macros relatively in check (roughly 40/40/20)
- Got most of my carbs from complex sources (whole grains, sweet potatoes, etc)
- Cut out sugar as much as possible
- Protein sources generally pretty lean (fish, chicken, etc)
- Lots of fruit and vegetables
- Occasionally eat whatever the **** I want to, mostly to keep myself sane.

Got down to about 180 and decided that was enough, and decided to start going back up. Guess what I did? Same thing, but ATE MORE (probably around +500 of my TDEE), and shifted a little more to protein in my splits. Also started lifting again focusing mostly on big compound stuff (squats, deadlifts, bench, etc). I've slowly crept back up in weight, and most of the gain has been lean muscle mass. As of this AM I was 193. Thermodynamics is fun!

Seriously though. This shit isn't complicated. Eat clean (mostly for health reasons), consume less / more than your TDEE depending on goals, work out, and realize that this shit is a lifestyle change and not a fucking sprint.

My 2 cents.

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Has anyone read that book about eating for you're blood type?
I'm just asking i seen the book at Bordles book store.
My blood type is rare and the food it said i shouldnt eat was remarkable.

Now gpphat stay away from my post you twat.
 

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Has anyone read that book about eating for you're blood type?
I'm just asking i seen the book at Bordles book store.
My blood type is rare and the food it said i shouldnt eat was remarkable.

Now gpphat stay away from my post you twat.

I was given it for Christmas, and it is next in line to be read.
 

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I honestly don't even count calories. I have a pretty good sense of what portion control should look like on a plate. Lean protein, bunch of vegetables, some kind of good carb, etc. For me it's just not sustainable to count everything, too much of a pain in the ass. I've done it on occasion (which is admittedly helpful to be able to estimate well), but eventually I'd stop. My current methodology seems to be working pretty well. For me anyways.
I didn't mean stop counting calories because it's a pain in the ass. Easy enough to download an app that will count them for you. I meant stop counting calories cause you know the conventional thinking concerning calorie counting is not based in reality. This conventional thinking never took into account the type food being taken in and the fact the body digests different types of food and macros differently and different types food also have a very different effect on insulin. Some food is also just more satiating which is going to help anyone eat less while other food is just far more likely to be stored as fat and cause more hunger.

I did read your previous post and certainly don't want to attack what has obviously worked well for you at this point. It is obviously a better diet than the American standard with more thought put into it. Just a couple exceptions I would note. While I would agree lots of lean meat and vegetables (mostly green leafy) are a good thing, I'd say a lot of fruit is not. Fructose is digested differently than other food in the body. It goes straight to the liver and only a small amount can be taken in before being stored as fat. I think fruits have been talked up more than they should ever have been as most are very high in this sugar that is more likely to be stored as fat. Would make an exception for the keto super food, avocado, which is much higher in healthy fats and fiber than any net carbs. Conventional thinking would have people reach for a sugar filled banana in search for their potassium while the much healthier alternative would be the avocado which contains a tiny fraction of the carbs and even much more of the potassium. Not saying fruits need be avoided altogether, but they should certainly be limited to about 1 serving a day with the more sugar filled ones being avoided more often than not. Only other exception I saw from that post would be the whole grains. Would make sense to think of whole grains being a healthier option than refined grains but the whole grains are not so whole and still bring lots of carbs, whereas the FDA says grain that is 51% whole can be called whole grain. So, still, whole grains are more processed than they should be and something I see that should be severely limited if not avoided altogether.

Still, congrats on your gains and success with what you've been doing. Just providing some more food for thought.
 

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His balls are probably slapping off your chin. Handsome guy
You have an odd obsession of fantasizing about me in sexual situations and discussing the looks of the avatar I use...what does your blood type say about that?


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