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Kevin Mawae: Brian Urlacher Was A Better Middle Linebacker Than Ray Lewis
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Well Urlacher could have been a HOF SS or TE, ray... no... there is that.. im sure they take that into account..
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stab as in fuck? or stab as in gash a fuck?
cause stabbing is a man thing to do.. been happening since man picked up a stick..
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He was a straight up 3-4 OLB edge rusher. Same responsibilities as a DE (outside contain, pass rush) like Leonard Floyd has now. Totally different position to MLB.
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No he couldn't.
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Lewis was a better all around player. Sorry but it is true. This isn't a slam on Brian, he was amazing but Ray Lewis was the dominant middle linebacker of the early 2000s.
13 Pro Bowls and seven first team All Pros. Three second team all pro selections. Brian, while great only went seven times, and was All Pro five times both first and second team. Lewis almost doubled Urlacher's tackle in his career.
Look at it this way. Ray Lewis played for 16 years and 13 of them he went to the Pro Bowl. Ten of them he was All Pro. Urlacher can't match this. As much as I love Brian he is second fiddle. But coming in second to the (sorry Dick) best middle linebacker to ever play the game is not a bad thing.
The better debate would be Butkus vs Urlacher. That would be very close.
13 Pro Bowls and seven first team All Pros. Three second team all pro selections. Brian, while great only went seven times, and was All Pro five times both first and second team. Lewis almost doubled Urlacher's tackle in his career.
Look at it this way. Ray Lewis played for 16 years and 13 of them he went to the Pro Bowl. Ten of them he was All Pro. Urlacher can't match this. As much as I love Brian he is second fiddle. But coming in second to the (sorry Dick) best middle linebacker to ever play the game is not a bad thing.
The better debate would be Butkus vs Urlacher. That would be very close.
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Very insightful and everything you said makes it an obvious choice, Ray Lewis is the GOAT. Sorry meatballs.
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Just like a troll can't have a debate without calling names and stereotypes.
Go put your head up your ass that's how you come up with your best posts
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There is no debate. You can't provide enough proof in the world that suggest Urlacher was better than Lewis, no one can.
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And the other way around except he played longer. So yes it is a debate even if you don't want to except it you're the one that responded to me.
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Did you read the stats that wklink provided above?
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I just looked at a couple lists one for ILB's, it was the top 10 and Lewis was number 1 and Urlacher was not on that list. The other was for LB's and Lewis was ranked #2 and Urlacher #15.
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And did you know that Lewis played longer so really it's you opinion and you think that your right but really it's just a opinion
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Longevity is part of the reason he was better than Urlacher. It's just one of the many resounding factors that fall in the category of Lewis being the GOAT.
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The warden-Spunky rivalry is one of the more odd things CCS has going.
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We're not rivals, rivals are only in the head of meatballs.
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That is completely false 2055/1354=1.51
That seems doubtful. Unless your over 70, you didn't see Butkus' career as an adult, if at all, so you can't make that comparison intelligently,esp considering they didn't keep tackle stats. The few they kept, FR (3.63 vs 1.40 per 16 game season) and INT's(2.95 vs 2.17) Butkus was far superior in. As far Pro Bowls, Butkus went to it every single season, including as a rookie other than his last 8/9 and first team AllPro 6/9, a much higher rate than Lewis' 13/17 and 7/17.
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Comparing longevity of a 13 yr career vs 17 yrs is meaningless. Once you hit 100games, give or take a few, it's about what you did during your time. If you base things on pure statistical results of longevity, Kerry Collins, Steve DeBerg and Dave Krieg become top 30 QB's ahead of Aikman, Bradshaw, Namath, and Stabler to name a few.
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4 years doesn't make a difference? I think it makes a huge difference.
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