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You are correct . Just took the time to research it.
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I think part of that is also the garbage-level offense that's played in the Big 10 vs SEC. The only B10 QBs that would have a shot to start on a non-Vanderbilt SEC team would be McCarthy, McCord, and Tua's little brother. If you stacked up the top 15 QBs across both conferences, it'd probably be those 3 and 12 SEC guys.
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Meh, I don't think the defenses of Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St, or Iowa are ranked where they are because of poor offensive competition. Not to mention you can make the same case for most of the QBs in the SEC. Some of you guys hold the SEC in way too high esteem. They aren't the only conference with talent.
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Idk, it's a pretty big difference in stats when they face those 3 vs not.
Iowa didn't face any of those top 3 QBs, so can't compare their numbers, but for Mich, OSU, and PSU, here are their combined passing defense splits when playing against those three vs others:
Overall, 36 combined games:
528 of 964 (54.8%)
5,477 yards (152.1/game, 5.7/attempt)
22 TDs
35 INTs
102.8 QB Efficiency
vs McCarthy, McCord, and Tag, 7 combined games:
134 of 204 (65.7%)
1,494 yards (213.4/game, 7.3/attempt)
7 TDs (1/game)
7 INTs (1/game)
131.7 QB Efficiency
vs all others, 29 combined games:
394 of 760 (51.8%)
3,983 yards (137.3/game, 5.2/attempt)
15 TDs (0.5/game)
28 INTs (1/game)
95.0 QB Efficiency
And when you take out the games vs the only three significant non-conference QBs they played (Hartman at Notre Dame, Brecht at Iowa State, and Greene at West Virginia) the split is even wider, as they had better-than-average games, as well.
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Georgia for one, have the record the last couple of years lots of teams would love to have..
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build the trenches and throw the ball down the field, and run
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We need to get off the bus running
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and run protecting
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Hard to judge especially just going off highlight reels. All I can say is if poles has them graded similarly and he can trade down and still get one or the other I'm happy.
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NONONONONONONONONONONONO to Caleb Williams. We have our QB2024 NFL Mock Draft – WalterFootball
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Its just one mock, so take it for what you will and it will likely be close. but this one has 10 SEC kids and 8 Big10 kids in the first round
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Nabers, MHJ, Odunze, Harris (yes I'm including him), many others, are the answer to the question that never gets asked of the bears.
Why is it, when you look at some of the offenses on other teams, they have multiple playmakers, but we usually don't have here?
Bears NEED to get one of these WRs. If we don't get Nabers, then get MHJ. No MHJ, get Nabers. But FSU has great options. Other receivers on Washington outside of Odunze. Ole Miss has them as well. Burton has come on at Bama. Even a Bowers.
We need to ADD to the offense. Not replace something with something else. Adding a Nabors means less of ever other receiver not named DJ Moore and Mooney.
Adding a Bowers to Kmet would greatly increase the offense.
But in my mind, nothing happens without fixing the trenches. The center position has been vulnerable for years. We need interior guys as ours can't stay on the field long enough for anything to gel. But FIX THE DAMN CENTER position.
Finally, don't let Foreman leave when he gets healthy.
Why is it, when you look at some of the offenses on other teams, they have multiple playmakers, but we usually don't have here?
Bears NEED to get one of these WRs. If we don't get Nabers, then get MHJ. No MHJ, get Nabers. But FSU has great options. Other receivers on Washington outside of Odunze. Ole Miss has them as well. Burton has come on at Bama. Even a Bowers.
We need to ADD to the offense. Not replace something with something else. Adding a Nabors means less of ever other receiver not named DJ Moore and Mooney.
Adding a Bowers to Kmet would greatly increase the offense.
But in my mind, nothing happens without fixing the trenches. The center position has been vulnerable for years. We need interior guys as ours can't stay on the field long enough for anything to gel. But FIX THE DAMN CENTER position.
Finally, don't let Foreman leave when he gets healthy.
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And score more than the other team
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That’s because they don’t play offense in the Big Ten. (Gross generalization obviously)
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Tbf, pro scouts that do this for a living thought Bryce young was the right choice over CJ stroud, despite many casual fans thinking that was crazy talk, myself included
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David Tepper thinking something isn't pro scouts. Mel Kiper/Todd McShay aren't pro scouts. Don't get it twisted.Tbf, pro scouts that do this for a living thought Bryce young was the right choice over CJ stroud, despite many casual fans thinking that was crazy talk, myself included
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The SEC also doesn't really play defense...
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don't see the Bears using A top three pick on WR as most of us want. will Daniels be around in the second round?
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You think those are the only guys who had young over stroud? Rumors are the Texans would have taken young too…you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think other teams/scouts had young over CJ.
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Not saying they didn't, I'm saying you don't really know. Not to mention this is so far from the point. It isn't like pro scouts didn't know who young or Stroud were. Most players aren't flying under the radar, especially someone like Nabers in a school like LSU.
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Nabers would be an excellent consolation prize. I’m not taking him at 4, but if you want to trade down to the 7-9 range, then I’m all for it