Matt Garza Traded To The Cubs

[Capt. Serious]

Juan Pierre deal. Ricky Nolasco looks pretty nice in Florida.

 

[Jntg4]

No, but he brings us closer. I don't think we're all that far away. Sounds like I just gave myself an article idea...




How can you say this is a bad trade before all the players have even been mentioned? That's flat out stupid. Not to even mention, ZERO games have been played. In a deal of 8 players, in which 7 of them are prospects, you can not say that it is extremely good or extremely bad when ZERO games have been played.

But if the Cubs traded Randy Wells, you could call it horrible, right?

 

[poodski]

That's really ignorant. Name one bad trade Hendry has had. Game, Set, Match.

Pierre.

Maddux.

C-patt (questionable)

Those of the top of my head were terrible.

Oh the wuertz trade too.

 

[Jntg4]

Pierre.

Maddux.

C-patt (questionable)

Those of the top of my head were terrible.

Oh the wuertz trade too.

He'll find a way to say those don't count.

 

[Captain Obvious]

But if the Cubs traded Randy Wells, you could call it horrible, right?

Pierre.

Maddux.

C-patt (questionable)

Those of the top of my head were terrible.

Oh the wuertz trade too.

Ouhhh... Forgot about the Maddux trade. God that was bad. Pierre and Wuertz were pretty bad too. However, it has been several years on all of those, which I think is a good sign. In the case of the Pierre deal it was a fire sale, so I can't blame him too much on that one and the only real guy we gave up was Nolasco, IIRC. That Wuertz deal pisses me off beyond belief though, I loved that guy. Didn't he get in someone's dog house? Nevertheless, that one irks me to this day.

 

[poodski]

He'll find a way to say those don't count.

I could argue the Pierre trade a bit, but the Maddux one was plain awful.

 

[Jntg4]

What was the whole trade? I forget who was in it.

 

[Capt. Serious]

12/7/2005 – Cubs trade Sergio Mitre, Ricky Nolasco and Reynel Pinto to the Marlins for Juan Pierre.

A guy who is a year older than Garza, but has 10+ wins in 4 of his first 5 seasons.

12/7/2006 – Cubs trade Josh Hamilton for Cash.

:lmao:

 

[poodski]

What was the whole trade? I forget who was in it.

Mitre nolasco and pinto.

But we basically got harden out of the deal too.

 

[Jntg4]

Hamilton trade was awful! And to a division rival too.

Granted, he was a Rule V pick, but still!

 

[Captain Obvious]

What was the whole trade? I forget who was in it.

Izturis. uke:

A guy who is a year older than Garza, but has 10+ wins in 4 of his first 5 seasons.

:lmao:

Really?!?! and REALLY?!?!?!!

Awful post.

@Poods, I forgot to quote your post, I think it depends on which WAR you use, right? BR has Nolasco at like 0.1 and FG has him at like 12. I hate the inconsistency between the two.

 

[Jntg4]

Mitre nolasco and pinto.

But we basically got harden out of the deal too.

No, I knew that one. I meant the whole Maddux trade.

 

[Jntg4]

Izturis. uke:



Really?!?! and REALLY?!?!?!!

Awful post.

@Poods, I forgot to quote your post, I think it depends on which WAR you use, right? BR has Nolasco at like 0.1 and FG has him at like 12. I hate the inconsistency between the two.

BR is more reliable, if you mean Baseball-Reference, but FG seems to be the trend right now.

So, there are multiple variations of the WAR formula?

 

[DewsSox79]

No, that's because we have Pujols.



I like this and I'm not a prospect hater. While Arch has value to us, he has had one good year of control. That could very easily change. To every scout out there he is nothing special. His ceiling is about a 2, which is what we have with Garza right now. I like the deal.


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[DewsSox79]

A guy who is a year older than Garza, but has 10+ wins in 4 of his first 5 seasons.

:lmao:

casey maghee FTW

 

[Jntg4]

casey maghee FTW

McGehee.

 

[Captain Obvious]

BR is more reliable, if you mean Baseball-Reference, but FG seems to be the trend right now.

So, there are multiple variations of the WAR formula?

I don't think BR is more reliable. I forget what it is, but like BR doesn't give credit to luck and FG does? I don't remember, but there is some big factor in there. Gosh, this is gonna drive me crazy.

 

[Capt. Serious]

CO, you talk Hendry like he's some god.

 

[Jntg4]

I don't think BR is more reliable. I forget what it is, but like BR doesn't give credit to luck and FG does? I don't remember, but there is some big factor in there. Gosh, this is gonna drive me crazy.

IDK, I'm a BR homer, use it as my main resource, mostly for minor league history though.

 

[Jntg4]

CO, you talk Hendry like he's some god.

Which would be breaking the 1st commandment, lol.