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I'm hearing that the Jets are gonna go hard after Trubisky
I'm hearing that the Jets are gonna go hard after Trubisky
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If I'm spending a top 5 overall pick on a safety, I want Ed Reed, not some guy with one career int. I need a full on game changing playmaker with that high a pick. I couldn't care less about what a safety did returning punts or running the ball in college.
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Agree....more like a Charles Woodson if we are talking top 5. Reed was taken in the 20's.... there certainly doesn't appear to be any guys of that caliber in this draft. The last safety to that I think even sniffed elite level safety status coming out of college would be Collins and that's probably a stretch. Probably have to go all the way back to 2010 with Eric Berry and Earl Thomas. Just not been any great safeties in awhile.
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That's why we have R.Pace, J.Fox, V.Fangio and their team of scouts. They will determine where he fits best to play in the NFL.
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That's who B.Polian compared him to yesterday.
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Yeah, I mean I want a player that's likely to be another Ed Reed type in the NFL. Major impact player and ball hawk. I don't see Peppers being that.
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He looks more like a Polamalu type, based on the way Michigan uses him. He seems to time the snap very well on blitzes, and he looks to be good diagnosing plays. His speed helps him get through a lot of screens. Would you take that? He definitely has the athletic ability to play FS, but it isn't how he's been used, at least not in the games I've seen.
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Polamalu had 6 TOs in college in 36 career games.
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And they would be stupid to project a college LB to Free Safety in the NFL. If you want to draft Peppers to be a LB or a SS then by all means do it. If you want to draft him and play him as a center fielder then that's pretty dumb IMO.
It's like let me watch all this college tape of a guy making a ton of plays at the LoS and then let me put him as far away from the LoS as possible. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
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He had 6 Ints. You are not counting his forced fumbles and fumble recoveries.
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15 tackles for loss, 4 sacks, 1 forced fumble and 1 INT this year. That's 21 big plays in 13 games. Over 1.5 per game. The idea that he doesn't make plays is silly.
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Almost like projecting a college safety to linebacker.
Not at all because you are going in the opposite direction. There are plenty of examples of college safeties dropping down and becoming Linebackers because the coverage skills at S translate to LB.
Not many examples of a college LB becoming a FS.
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Yes most of those big plays were around the LoS. They tell us nothing about whether he can be a FS. No one is saying he doesn't make plays at the LoS. We are saying he has not proven in college he can play center field as a FS.
Also why are we ignoring last year where he had 0 turnovers? Again he is a great SS/LB prospect. He is not a great FS prospect. Speed is not the only requirement for playing Centerfield as a FS. And it is silly to take a guy that plays well at the LoS and turn him into a FS.
If I'm drafting Peppers, it's to primarily be an in the box SS or a WLB in a 4-3. To me he's an Adrian Wilson type at SS or a Thomas Davis/Briggs type at LB. Davis in particular started out as a S before becoming a LB.
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I see Peppers kind of like the honey badger....just a athlete who causes havoc.
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If we are at 3-4, I really hope Pace pays the price and moves up to ensure Garrett. That kid is going to be a star.
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I only mentioned FS because we don't have one and we have a lot of SS. When Amos plays FS it's by default. I like the idea of a guy fast enough for the spot terrorizing the secondary. That said, he does project better to SS or hybrid. He's not a LB in the NFL and is basically playing a hybrid rover type roll right now. You get too hung up on some specific said in passing to unbalance an equation when it isn't the main point.
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i thought karl joesph was decent.. but eh.. wtf do i know..