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I don't want Ripken. I want Joe G. then Maddux. Hinch can go fly a kite.
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Well boys the longer we go without hearing Joe G agreed to a deal the better our chances are I think. We'll see.
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Yeah number 1 is Girardi then Mike Maddux IMO.
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If Ron Washington gets the boot, Mike Maddux likely gets the job.
That said, would you guys be cool with Washington?
That said, would you guys be cool with Washington?
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Rangers Notes: Washington, Payroll, Morales
By Mark Polishuk [October 3, 2013 at 5:48pm CST]
Rangers GM Jon Daniels spoke to the media today and already shared some information about his team's plans for Nelson Cruz and Joe Nathan this offseason. Here's some more from Daniels' press conference and other Ranger-related news items...
Daniels said he will speak to manager Ron Washington about a contract extension this winter (via Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram). The GM hasn't yet spoken to upper management about extending Washington's deal but Daniels doesn't want Washington to be a lame duck in the final year of his current contract. It could mirror the situation in January 2012 when Washington was heading into his final year with Texas and signed his current two-year extension.
The Rangers' 2014 payroll will be "a little below" its $125.3MM figure from last season, Daniels said (via Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News). The club has around $85MM committed to nine players next season, plus five arbitration-eligible players. Since the club will have at least $31MM worth of free agents coming off the books, Grant notes, the Rangers will still have room to spend.
The Rangers "certainly have interest" in free agent Kendrys Morales, MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan reports. Since the Mariners plan to extend a qualifying offer to Morales, signing Morales would cost the Rangers their first-round draft pick as compensation.
Also in Sullivan's piece, he breaks down the Rangers' offseason needs and notes that Jurickson Profar's positional future could play a role in Texas' moves. For instance, the Rangers could experiment with Profar at third base, which would allow Adrian Beltre to save his legs by seeing regular DH at-bats.
The firing of bench coach Jackie Moore has generated some rumors of Daniels wanting more influence in on-field decisions, but ESPN Dallas' Richard Durrett believes that Daniels is simply trying to find the right coaching mix rather than engaging in a power struggle with Washington or Nolan Ryan.
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I believe it will be Hinch. Joe would have to take on a 90 loss team with no ability to sign impact players. Not really a great situation.
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I'm not sure it's as bleak as you make it out to be. Sure next year is going to be difficult but 2015+ should be much better. And even in 2014, if they can tread water til around midseason then you're potentially talking Baez and Bryant hitting the majors along with other potential high profile guys. Their pitching this year was largely fine and presumably can still be decent even without Garza. What they really need is for Castro and Rizzo to hit better. You combine that with 1-2 mid tier FA in the mold of Edwin Jackson from last year and they have a chance to play .500 ball. Then if Baez and others come up.... who knows.
Plus, even if they are say a 75 win team next year, in 2015 if Girardi were to have them at 82 or so wins that seems like a significant improvement which would easily buy him time with both management and the media/fans.
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Great situation? Looking at the Yankees roster and farm system, what indication is there that in the next few years it will be a "great situation" with the Yankees?
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I hope the Cubs don't have three consecutive managers consisting of Quade, Sveum, and Hinch. All three of them stink.
It's time to move forward. Hinch keeps them lateral, and when your at the bottom of the league, moving lateral is not a good thing.
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I have to believe that if girardi doesnt make a decision by today, he has to be leaning towards coming to chicago..
its not like he just had a couple weeks to think about this, he knew all year that his contract would be up and had time to think and talk over with his wife about whether or not they want to stay in newyork..
these potential managers arent looking at what theyve done the past couple seasons, their looking at what they have going on now and forward..
the potential is there in their system and they will have substantial revenues coming in to spend on top FAs going forward..
this is why you have guys like ripken, and maddux expressing interest in managing here..
its not like he just had a couple weeks to think about this, he knew all year that his contract would be up and had time to think and talk over with his wife about whether or not they want to stay in newyork..
these potential managers arent looking at what theyve done the past couple seasons, their looking at what they have going on now and forward..
the potential is there in their system and they will have substantial revenues coming in to spend on top FAs going forward..
this is why you have guys like ripken, and maddux expressing interest in managing here..
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On the WS? Only you.
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Rather have 80% failure "in" the WS then 80% failure "in" the regular season. "a" team has to "BE" "GOOD". In the first place to "BE" in the WS.
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Put it this way. Would you rather have a team like the Rangers or a team like the Cubs. 1 team that comes up short in the play offs or a team that comes up short in the regular season?
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The rebuild is finally moving to the next level. That doesn't mean we are going to be in the playoffs in 2014 or even .500 but now is the time where all this needs to start paying off. Girardi realizes, just as Theo does, if you are the one to win it for the Cubs you will be a legend regardless of what you do/have done the rest of your career. And as a former Cub, I believe that is what intrigues Girardi the most. He recognizes how big that would be.
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To be perfectly honest if I'm Joe I do not take the Cubs job. The Ricketts are not funding a winner and payroll has gone down every year under their command. Now if this was next year and Baez is on the team with Soler and Bryant close sure it looks like a good situation. But going into this year and looking like a sitting duck for the media while running a team that lacks talent and can not comit resource. No I'd sign a 1 year with fox and take my chances the following year.
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Yes that is all true but if Girardi wants the job he has to take it now. The Yankees aren't going to give him a one year deal, nor are the Cubs going to give another manager a 1 year deal. If the Cubs are willing to go all out to get Girardi that has to mean something in the sense that maybe now they are going to put more money towards a winning team.
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No I believe the Cubs would sign Hinch as a back up and run right back to Joe if Joe signs a 1 year deal with Fox.
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Like I said. I would want a comitment to win in 2014. You have to remember he is a proven product. Has a WS under his belt. This is not some unproven like Dale looking for an opertunity. Joe holds the cards and can make any demand he wants from a potential team. Including a comitment to winning now not when it is convent to the owners time lines.
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what exactly do you need to see from them that tells you their committed to winning in 2014 ? a handful of FA signings ? there really not a whole lot available to had for long term commitment...
i think girardi smart enough to know exactly what the cubs have going on right now.. he can see they have a handful of young top talent just about ready to come out, and eventually the ricketts will open up the pocket book and allow epstein and hoyer to spend on FAs..
you have to know that If and when girardi sits down with epstein and hoyer, their going to explain fully what the plan is as far as what they expect out of players from their system and when they will start to spend money on long term FAs. and epstein and hoyer have to be smart enough to know their not going to get a guy like girardi as manager if that commitment isnt there in 2014/2015..
i also sincerely doubt they took the job to help the ricketts keep payroll down for their 5 yrs and to never try and put a winning team on the field..
im also going to go out on the limb now and say joe girardi is interested in joining the cubs...
if it about family , a 3 yr deal does nothing for him as far as the yankees being committee to him.. they can easily fire him in the next yr or two if they choose
girardi has to see players wise their going south as rivera gone, pettite gone, arod prob. gone, jeter just about done, and if they dont resign cano
they have nothing going for them and their little available via FA.. not sure how their farm system is, but their current roster is dwindling and getting old, so this time next year they may be in a worse position then the cubs.
im hearing cubs are ready to offer a 5-6 yr deal at close to 6 per, thats a nice commitment with the young talent they have coming up and a payroll that will no doubt go up with the right FAs that becomes available.
also, yankees are said to have made a take it or leave it deal.. girardi would be a fool not to listen to other offers and not tell the yankees his desire to do so.
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